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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:33 PM May 2016

After WEEKS of stalking Gov Brown- then rejected as JB endorses HRC, Sanders calls him Establishment

NaphiSoc ?@NaphiSoc 31m31 minutes ago
After WEEKS of stalking Gov Brown - then rejected as JB endorses HRC
Sanders called JB...drumroll ..ESTABLISHMENT




Bernie Sanders:

“I will tell you that in every state that we have gone into, we have taken on the entire Democratic establishment,” Sanders said Tuesday. “It’s not surprising to me that, you know, we will have the Democratic establishment supporting Hillary Clinton. I like Jerry Brown, but people can make their own choices.”



...he’s weighing in now on behalf of the Democratic establishment,” said Jane Sanders, the candidate’s wife, in a CNN interview on Tuesday.
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After WEEKS of stalking Gov Brown- then rejected as JB endorses HRC, Sanders calls him Establishment (Original Post) bigtree May 2016 OP
That's how Trump behaves. Attacks anyone who disagrees with him. Totally intolerant. Trust Buster May 2016 #1
And Cruz dropped out when ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #32
Is Jerry Brown a political outsider? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #39
If the Democratic governor of the nation's largest state isn't part of the Democratic establishment, TacoD May 2016 #2
if Jerry Brown is the 'establishment' Sanders has been attacking as corrupt the entire campaign bigtree May 2016 #3
Sanders as sunk to a new low attacking brown..but then that beachbumbob May 2016 #4
I voted for Jerry when I was still in my teens, my father voted for Jerry and had also voted for his Bluenorthwest May 2016 #7
But to assume "establishment" is always a dirty word, and convince avid followers of the same Sheepshank May 2016 #16
Go Bernie liberal from boston May 2016 #21
But that's the assumption that YOU'RE making Scootaloo Jun 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #5
Too bad Brown isn't running instead of Clinton. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #6
A new low for the esteemed Senator Sanders who in 25 some years has done virtually nothing zappaman May 2016 #8
Remarkable achievements, outstanding Democrat. nt oasis May 2016 #12
K&R Bobbie Jo May 2016 #13
Go Bernie liberal from boston May 2016 #23
California has how many cities GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #24
Stalking? frylock May 2016 #9
Go Bernie liberal from boston May 2016 #22
"Sore loser burns very last bridge" Starry Messenger May 2016 #10
Bill Clinton said Jerry Brown "comes here with his family wealth and his $1,500 suit Bluenorthwest May 2016 #11
we are Californians and Jerry Brown is NO Progressive! Far From it! Huge Disappointment amborin May 2016 #14
Sander has clearly shown his position to cause harm to the Democratic party. He is all establishment seabeyond May 2016 #15
What harm is he causing? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #37
Where do they get all these busses to toss Democrats under? bravenak May 2016 #17
Jane and Bernie's bitterness nourishes my soul CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #18
Lol MFM008 Jun 2016 #26
Sanders should have started his own party KingFlorez May 2016 #19
his taking on the Democratic moniker seems so calculatingly cynical now bigtree May 2016 #20
3 Governors remaining that are undeclared. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #25
86.1% of Vermont voters disagree with the governor. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #27
Jerry Brown is Dem establishment. What's the problem? roody Jun 2016 #28
Hillary supporters want to think of themsleves as being the radical cutting edge of progressivism Scootaloo Jun 2016 #36
If you're going to accuse someone of 'stalking' have a real source. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jun 2016 #40
Governor Brown has a 77% approval rating (higher with Dems) DesertRat Jun 2016 #30
It always surprises me how bent out of shape HRC get over 'the establishment' label aikoaiko Jun 2016 #31
So, it was a compliment then? Senator to Governor? 😱 robbedvoter Jun 2016 #34
Breaking news: Elections are ESTABLISHMENT robbedvoter Jun 2016 #33
And is Sanders actually factually wrong? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #35
they know about Jerry Brown reddread Jun 2016 #41
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
39. Is Jerry Brown a political outsider?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:01 AM
Jun 2016

If not, then how is noting his place as part of the party establishment an 'attack" or "intolerant"?

TacoD

(581 posts)
2. If the Democratic governor of the nation's largest state isn't part of the Democratic establishment,
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:35 PM
May 2016

then the term is meaningless. Bernie said he likes Jerry Brown. I don't see anything wrong with what he said.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
3. if Jerry Brown is the 'establishment' Sanders has been attacking as corrupt the entire campaign
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:39 PM
May 2016

...he's clearly engaging in sophistry.

Most people can see through this petty politics of Sanders. It's hypocritical, offensive, arrogant, and self-serving.

Pretending he means something benign isn't going to work. This is the same backbiting, navel-gazing effort that's characterized his entire campaign.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
4. Sanders as sunk to a new low attacking brown..but then that
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:45 PM
May 2016

Is sanders character....don't play nice...still wonder where the tax returns are and why Jane still hiding from answering questions???

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. I voted for Jerry when I was still in my teens, my father voted for Jerry and had also voted for his
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

father, two term CA Governor Pat Brown. Jerry is a legacy establishment Democrat whose sister has also held high office. It's ludicrous to deny that.
I'm from CA. Jerry is a great guy. His family is the most powerful in CA political history. So. Not exactly a political outsider, is he?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
16. But to assume "establishment" is always a dirty word, and convince avid followers of the same
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:34 PM
May 2016

..is particularly nasty.

I just don't know how he is not included in that definition after 25 years in public office.

Establishment = knowing the rules, and the processes and knowing how to manipulate and use them. They all do it, including Bernie.

21. Go Bernie
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:13 PM
May 2016

Hillary Supporters have no shame!!! Remember ridiculous comments from Hillary supporters accusing Senator Sanders of stalking Pope Francis, was not invited, will not to be allowed to speak & no meeting w/ Pope Francis. Bernie is a man of integrity; whereas lies come quite easily from Hillary supporters

Response to TacoD (Reply #2)

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
8. A new low for the esteemed Senator Sanders who in 25 some years has done virtually nothing
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

Compared to Jerry Brown and the Democrats we gave him to turn this state around.

MARCH 2016
Governor Brown and California Democratic legislators raised the state’s minimum wage to $15 by 2022 with an agreement that also protects the budget and small businesses – becoming the first state to reach this milestone. No Republican legislators voted for the law.

OCTOBER 2015
Governor Brown signed one of the nation’s strongest equal pay laws with bipartisan support to reduce the wage gap for women. California women earn 84 cents for every $1 a man earns for the same work.

OCTOBER 2015
California made clean energy history with the signing of Senate Bill 350, which boosts renewable energy sources like wind and solar to 50% and doubles the energy efficiency of buildings by 2030.

OCTOBER 2015
California Democrats passed SB 703, which prohibits discrimination against transgender people by companies doing business with the state, and SB 713, which aids transgender children in the foster care system to prevent homelessness, victimization, depression, and suicide.

OCTOBER 2015
Governor Jerry Brown responded to a devastating oil spill on the Santa Barbara coast by signing bills to prevent oil spills and strengthen the state’s response to future spills.

OCTOBER 2015
The California Motor Voter Act makes us a national leader on increasing voter participation by automatically registering California citizens to vote when they apply for, renew, or change their address on a driver’s license.

SEPTEMBER 2015
California Democrats passed SB 588 to combat wage theft and ensure hardworking Californians are paid overtime and other earned wages. Wage theft by employers disproportionally affects women and people of color.
MAY 2015
California expanded Medi-Cal to cover all children regardless of their immigration status. The Health for All Kids Act will cover an estimated 170,000 children from families with low incomes.

MAY 2015
Gov. Brown signed the Climate Change Pact together with the leaders of other states and countries to reduce greenhouse gases and promote clean energy. Also known as the "Under 2 MOU," the goal is to keep global temperature increases below 2 degrees Celsius. As of December 2015 the pact includes 123 jurisdictions representing more than 720 million people and $19.9 trillion in combined GDP. “We are building a global force of cities, states – and even countries – to reduce carbon pollution and protect the wellbeing of people everywhere,” said Gov. Brown.

MAY 2015
California Democrats approved a 2015-16 state budget that increased per-pupil K-12 spending by $3,000, froze tuition costs at the UC and CSU systems through 2017, put billions of dollars into rainy day reserves, and expanded health insurance through Medi-Cal for children from low-income families, regardless of their immigration status.

NOVEMBER 2014
Californians approved Propositions 1 and 2 to safeguard California's water supply and to save money to protect schools and public safety services from budget cuts in future recessions.

NOVEMBER 2014
California Democrats added a seat to our 38-member Congressional delegation through our push into previously Republican-held areas. We delivered millions of doorhangers, slate cards, and mailers in targeted state and federal campaigns.

NOVEMBER 2014
California voters reelected Gov. Jerry Brown and again captured every constitutional statewide office and strong Democratic majorities in the California Legislature. The Los Angeles Times said California Democrats “had much to celebrate. They swept all eight statewide offices Gov. Jerry Brown trounced his Republican challenger.”

APRIL 2014
Nearly 3 million uninsured Californians obtained healthcare in the first year of implementation of the Affordable Care Act.

OCTOBER 2013
California Democrats overcame years of Republican stonewalling and approved Assembly Bill 60 to issue state driver’s licenses to undocumented immigrants and improve safety on our roads.

SEPTEMBER 2013
We gave more than 1 million working Californians a raise by raising the minimum wage from $8 to $10 by 2016.

AUGUST 2013
Governor Brown signed the School Success and Opportunity Act, ensuring transgender youth have the opportunity to fully participate and succeed in schools across the state.

SEPTEMBER 2012
We implemented online voter registration, making it easier for Californians to register to vote.

JULY 2013
We passed the Middle Class Scholarship, which slashed student fees at UC and CSU by up to 40% for families making under $100,000.

NOVEMBER 2012
We led the charge to defeat the deceptive Proposition 32, which would have handed more power to corporate special interests.

NOVEMBER 2012
California voters sent nine targeted Republican Congressional incumbents and challengers packing.

NOVEMBER 2012
California Democrats championed Proposition 30 to restore funding to California K-12 schools and community colleges and help end years of teacher layoffs and budget cuts.

JULY 2012
California Democrats passed the Homeowner Bill of Rights to help stop fraudulent foreclosures and predatory lending practices and repair the damage of the foreclosure crisis.

NOVEMBER 2011
It Gets Bluer effort increased Democratic Latino voter turnout in Fresno, San Bernardino, and Riverside counties and led to pickup of Legislative and Congressional seats in 2012.

OCTOBER 2011
Gov. Brown signed the California DREAM Act to open the door for all students to attend college, regardless of their immigration status. Most Republicans opposed the bill.

OCTOBER 2011
Operation Game Changer improved turnout in Los Angeles by converting 50,000 Democrats to become permanent vote-by-mail voters.

NOVEMBER 2010
Californians approved the majority vote state budget with Proposition 25. Californians "made it a lot easier Tuesday for legislators to pass a budget," said the San Francisco Chronicle. Without Republican blocking tactics, Democrats have delivered balanced, on-time budgets since 2011.

NOVEMBER 2010
Californians elected Jerry Brown as governor despite his being outspent 6:1. The San Francisco Chronicle said Brown defied “a tsunami of spending by his billionaire opponent.” Sen. Barbara Boxer defeated a former corporate CEO who had offshored California jobs, and Democrats swept every constitutional statewide office.

MARCH 2010
President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act to extend health insurance to an estimated 41 million uninsured Americans, despite unrelenting Republican opposition. The landmark law has since survived repeated Republican assaults and two legal challenges in the Supreme Court.

http://www.cadem.org/take-action/accomplishments

23. Go Bernie
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:59 PM
May 2016

Really. You do know that Senator Sanders is a former Professor of Political Science at Harvard University Kennedy School of Government and at Hamilton College. Here are some not all of Senator Sanders many accomplishments: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/6/1428616/-Bernie-Sanders-What-the-Hell-Have-You-Done-for-Us-Lately

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. California has how many cities
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:12 AM
Jun 2016

With a population more than Vermont. But of course Vermont is so diverse...never mind.

22. Go Bernie
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:59 PM
May 2016

Stalking--it is ridiculous!!! Hillary trolls accused Senator Sanders of stalking Pope Francis. The lies that were posted about Bernie's invitation to speak at Vatican Conference were hateful.

Senator Sanders response was perfect--stated he liked Governor Brown & it is his choice. Bernie told Andrea Mitchell that he is up against the Democratic Establishment Hillary is the status quo Presidential Candidate. Bernie Sanders is the Presidential Candidate of Change.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. Bill Clinton said Jerry Brown "comes here with his family wealth and his $1,500 suit
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

makes a lying accusation about my wife."

Wasn't that Bill pointing out Jerry's establishment credentials and family power in order to advance his own candidacy? Yes he was.

Of course Jerry had said Bill funneled work to Hillary's law firm when he was governor of Arkansas so it was not really a love fest. But he sure went for that 'rich and powerful' tag for damn good reasons. Poor boy from Hope vs Governor Junior and his Fancy Pants.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-brown-trade-jabs-at-1992-democratic-primary-in-chicago/

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. Sander has clearly shown his position to cause harm to the Democratic party. He is all establishment
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:14 PM
May 2016

as he pretends otherwise and people follow his con.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
17. Where do they get all these busses to toss Democrats under?
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:37 PM
May 2016

I should have invested in busses. I'd be rich as hell.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
20. his taking on the Democratic moniker seems so calculatingly cynical now
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:06 PM
May 2016

...he's constantly placing himself at odds with those actually in place and working for Democratic changes.

He could call his new org the Contrary party.

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
25. 3 Governors remaining that are undeclared.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:17 AM
Jun 2016

Hawaii - David Ige (Just had their state convention)
Montana - Steve BUllock (Open Primary June 7)
Puerto Rico - Alejandro Garcia Padilla (Open Caucus June 7)

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
36. Hillary supporters want to think of themsleves as being the radical cutting edge of progressivism
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:56 AM
Jun 2016

Pointing out that they're about as edgy as a beach ball hurts their feelings.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
29. If you're going to accuse someone of 'stalking' have a real source.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jun 2016

Not a tweet.

You present no evidence that Sanders contacted Jerry Brown even once, let alone stalked him.

Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #29)

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
30. Governor Brown has a 77% approval rating (higher with Dems)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:48 AM
Jun 2016

Californians trust his wisdom and experience.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
31. It always surprises me how bent out of shape HRC get over 'the establishment' label
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:00 AM
Jun 2016

You all have made a point of her being an insider and well connected to the most powerful Democrats.

robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
34. So, it was a compliment then? Senator to Governor? 😱
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:37 AM
Jun 2016

Sorry for reading contempt in what he said, our bad.

robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
33. Breaking news: Elections are ESTABLISHMENT
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:34 AM
Jun 2016

It's the way governments are formed in a democracy (Senators are part of it too). The Burning Man festival is the next exit

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
35. And is Sanders actually factually wrong?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:52 AM
Jun 2016

Jerry Brown is absolutely part of the Democratic Party establishment. It's not the put-down you desperately want it to be. It's a statement of reality.

Duh?

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