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anyone from PA- what crap is this 48-48 PA (Original Post) kansasobama Nov 2012 OP
It is going to be close Francis Tresham Nov 2012 #1
Bullshit HERVEPA Nov 2012 #4
Stupid troll post VirginiaTarheel Nov 2012 #16
I'll be remembering your handle RomneyLies Nov 2012 #19
Poster is gone but Francis Tresham will be on the midterm British History test. grantcart Nov 2012 #20
Holy shit. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #30
Before Murdoch there was Scaife MightyMopar Nov 2012 #2
crappy pollster, right-wing paper: flowomo Nov 2012 #3
PPP has Obama up 52-46 in their final poll just out today NewsCenter28 Nov 2012 #8
I never heard of dennis4868 Nov 2012 #5
2nd largest paper in the Pittsburgh area... flowomo Nov 2012 #11
thanks... dennis4868 Nov 2012 #13
"Is this reliable" NO!!! Search DU for recent polls skeewee08 Nov 2012 #6
thanks kansasobama Nov 2012 #7
PPP has PA + 6 today. Obama will take PA by more than that. fearnobush Nov 2012 #9
smells like bullshit to me underthematrix Nov 2012 #10
No it's a susqehanna poll 7worldtrade Nov 2012 #12
Hah. He dropped 4 points since their previous poll. LisaL Nov 2012 #14
but the pollster dennis4868 Nov 2012 #15
No the pollster IS a GOP polling firm VirginiaTarheel Nov 2012 #17
Susquehanna Poll (BS/crap) CreekDog Nov 2012 #18
Susquehanna is a Republican-leaning pollster TroyD Nov 2012 #21
It's crap. n/t Lugnut Nov 2012 #22
your concern is noted krawhitham Nov 2012 #23
Nope! DarthDem Nov 2012 #24
Cheap Poll november3rd Nov 2012 #25
LOL! No. The President is up by 8 here. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #26
PPP = +6 TroyD Nov 2012 #27
I'm feeling 8. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #29
Terrible pollster, adjusts by party id, a big no-no pointsoflight Nov 2012 #28
It's Susquehanna, RCP has Obama up by 4.1collectively in PA which is about WI_DEM Nov 2012 #31
This same worthless pollster had Romney up 49-45 in PA back in Mid Oct. DCBob Nov 2012 #32
Your Concern Is Duly Noted.Thank You For Your Input./nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #33
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
30. Holy shit.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:26 AM
Nov 2012

So he was actually a historical figure? Based on the Wikipedia article, I seriously don't like this guy's choice of a name......

On an unrelated note, the Gunpowder plotter does share a name with the guy who originally invented the Civilization board game......

flowomo

(4,740 posts)
3. crappy pollster, right-wing paper:
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:31 AM
Nov 2012

"The Tribune-Review Publishing Company is owned by Richard Mellon Scaife, an heir to the Mellon banking, oil, and aluminum fortune. Scaife is a major funder of conservative organizations, including the Arkansas Project; accordingly, the Tribune-Review has long maintained a staunchly conservative editorial stance."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Tribune-Review

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
8. PPP has Obama up 52-46 in their final poll just out today
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:33 AM
Nov 2012

This Scaife poll is absolutely not credible. THROW IT OUT! PPP has a stellar reputation.

flowomo

(4,740 posts)
11. 2nd largest paper in the Pittsburgh area...
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:35 AM
Nov 2012

Trib Total Media is their whole media package -- smaller papers, website etc. It's a Scaife operation. See my post above.

7worldtrade

(85 posts)
12. No it's a susqehanna poll
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:37 AM
Nov 2012

They had Romney up by 4 on October 18. This is an improvement from their prior ridiculous poll.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
18. Susquehanna Poll (BS/crap)
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:42 AM
Nov 2012

and their last gave Romney a 4 point lead.

their last poll did this:


http://washingtonexaminer.com/poll-shows-romney-leading-in-blue-pennsylvania/article/2511153#.UJSRTcXA9BF

Last Susquehanna Poll (10/18/12) / 2008 Vote (or Exit Polls)/2004 Vote (or Exit Polls)

Philadelphia----->10% / 12% / 11.7%
Allegheny Co.--->10% / 11% / 11%

Men-------------->48% / 46% / 47%
Women---------->52% / 54% / 53%

White------------->88% / 81% / 82%
Black------------->10% / 13% / 13%
Hispanic----------> 1% / 4% / 3%

1% Hispanic in Pennsylvania? There are a lot of Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania and in 2008 they voted too.

Also, note the men/women split.

Oversampled whites too.

Sounds suspect to me.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
21. Susquehanna is a Republican-leaning pollster
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:14 AM
Nov 2012

And while it may very well be narrowing in PA compared to 2008, it's odd that this poll comes out now.

We just got a poll from PPP earlier tonight showing Obama +6 in PA, so why is this one so much lower?

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
26. LOL! No. The President is up by 8 here.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:33 AM
Nov 2012

Trust me. If Obama wins by less than six here, I'll eat a giant steak.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
27. PPP = +6
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:36 AM
Nov 2012

We just got a poll from PPP earlier tonight showing Obama +6 in PA, so perhaps that's the real number.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
29. I'm feeling 8.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:55 AM
Nov 2012

But I'll take .8 as long as we walk with PA. Which we will, by at least that 6. Or I'll eat that steak.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
31. It's Susquehanna, RCP has Obama up by 4.1collectively in PA which is about
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:25 AM
Nov 2012

how much Gore won PA in 2000 and better than Kerry in 2004, but down from Obama 2008 which we can expect it will be.

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