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Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:29 AM May 2016

If anyone thinks the Democratic Party is not owned by money interests, ask yourself this:

Why is it that the democratic establishment works so dam hard to get Bernie Sanders out of the race, yet these same people often cave into Republicans or fail to defend the party ideals?

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If anyone thinks the Democratic Party is not owned by money interests, ask yourself this: (Original Post) Chasstev365 May 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author wendylaroux May 2016 #1
Wow, I like that quote. bahrbearian May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author wendylaroux May 2016 #12
yeah, that is a good quote Ferd Berfel May 2016 #14
Since Sanders has been shown to be influenced by money interest for twenty five Thinkingabout May 2016 #2
Are you equating Bernie Sanders with the rest of the Democratic Party, including the Clintons? Chasstev365 May 2016 #7
Actually no, quiet the opposite, can you point to a time Hillary can be shown to have been Thinkingabout May 2016 #8
OMG. Have you completely missed the scads of news about Clinton foundation donors Doctor_J May 2016 #9
Where is the connection, not the scads of news of which is not based on facts. Good RW Thinkingabout May 2016 #10
???? Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #11
That depends heavily upon the meaning of "party ideals" HereSince1628 May 2016 #3
"If ... Scuba May 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author wendylaroux May 2016 #13
In other words Ferd Berfel May 2016 #16
Both parties are owend by money interests, and both parties are pretty awful bigwillq May 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author wendylaroux May 2016 #15

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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Since Sanders has been shown to be influenced by money interest for twenty five
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:41 AM
May 2016

Years he has been in congress and an independent says it is not limited to the Democratic Party.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
7. Are you equating Bernie Sanders with the rest of the Democratic Party, including the Clintons?
Sun May 29, 2016, 09:55 AM
May 2016

Yeah: keep telling yourself that!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. Actually no, quiet the opposite, can you point to a time Hillary can be shown to have been
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:03 AM
May 2016

Influenced by the money? Sanders himself has not produced where this has happened. In the case of Sanders, the NEW donatedv $18,000 to defeat his opponent when he ran for congress and he rewarded them with five votes against the Brady Bill.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. OMG. Have you completely missed the scads of news about Clinton foundation donors
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:40 AM
May 2016

getting state department favors? Jesus Christ, how do you people manage to keep reality out of your lives altogether?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Where is the connection, not the scads of news of which is not based on facts. Good RW
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:48 AM
May 2016

talking points, lots of stories which have been proven to be untrue. Sanders did not have an occasion where there was influence. It just may be because he has been influenced by a gun lobby like NRA he thinks others do the same, poor analogy.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. That depends heavily upon the meaning of "party ideals"
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:05 AM
May 2016

and the meaning of compromise.

Theoretically, and in my lightweight opinion the arena of contemporary 'pragmatic politics', it's quite possible to define party ideals in such a way as to completely take the sting of compromising said ideals out of the equation.

Party ideals aren't a Constitution, they are rather more like hand of cards dealt to politicians, examined, traded for new cards, and then played. But the card game itself isn't important. Being invited to the table, to be an associate of other big players -THAT- is what is important.

US politics is no longer a program of one for all and all for one, although suckers are played with such phrases.

It's a career path that engages making contacts and building celebrity. At the end of a political career, or within corrupt political deployments, those contacts and the celebrity are very lucrative. Very lucrative.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
4. "If ...
Sun May 29, 2016, 09:11 AM
May 2016
"If the Democratic Party would fight as hard for the Working Class as the Republican Party fights for the Ruling Class, the Republicans would be a powerless minority party within a few election cycles.

The Democratic Party knows this, the Republican Party knows this, the Ruling Class knows this- and they've been astonishingly successful at making sure the Working Class never learns this.

The status quo was rolling along just fine, until Bernie Sanders came along and mucked it up with his crazy ideas about democracy, equality and justice." ~ Anonymous

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bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
6. Both parties are owend by money interests, and both parties are pretty awful
Sun May 29, 2016, 09:13 AM
May 2016

The two-party system ruined America.

Sure, DEMs are better than GOP, but neither party works for the people. They only work for the special interests.

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