Lawsuit seems to be brewing against Jane Sanders

[bigtree]

Puesto Loco @PuestoLoco
Lawsuit seems to be brewing against Jane Sanders fraud/bankrupting Burlington College

[Gomez163]

1. FEEEEEEL TEH BERN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Barack_America]

48. You should know that these are VT GOP leaders and Trump supporters.

So, next time you complain about someone posting a RW smear against Hillary...

Just sayin'...

Several prominent Vermont Republicans attended the event — including Rutland City treasurer Wendy Wilton, Republican National Committeeman Jay Shepard and 2014 Chittenden County state senate candidate Joy Limoge — though not all appeared eager to speak with reporters.

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2016/01/07/trump-storms-burlington-dispensing-insults-and-boasts

[JimDandy]

53. +1000. And it's simply a stupid publicity stunt on top of that.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

116. which is why it is addressed to bernie instead of jane

Is this usual? No

[asuhornets]

62. Literally!!! n/t

[Thinkingabout]

2. This could get to being very interesting. The College is closing under a mound of debt and

The diocese is short of money they should have gotten.

[cali]

5. Sorry to disappoint you, but it's very unlikely anything will happen

[CrowCityDem]

8. It's more real than the email scandal. Jane may have violated banking laws by lying to get the loan.

[bobbobbins01]

16. Hmm...lying to get a loan or exposing US secrets promting an FBI investigation.

I'm gonna say the FBI investigation is a bit more serious.

[CrowCityDem]

28. Patreus "exposed" informstion. Hillary's server was never "exposed".

[bobbobbins01]

39. Guccifer says otherwise.

Any idea how else he'd get Bill Clinton's white house doodles?

[CrowCityDem]

42. From the Clinton library.

Who emails themselves doodles?

And you do understand the difference I brought up, right? Hillary's server may have been slightly less secure. Patreus personally handed over information to his mistress.

[bobbobbins01]

54. I understand the distinction, yes

But incompetence is no excuse for compromising national security. So you think Guccifer hacked the Clinton library, but not her email server?

[CrowCityDem]

58. I don't think the liar hacked anyone.

[bobbobbins01]

60. Well they weren't released to the public, so how did he get them?

Did he call up Bill and ask for them?

[bobbobbins01]

57. Actually, the Clinton Library doesn't even have them.

According to an archives technician at the Clinton Presidential Library, "We currently have no doodles on display and there are no plans for a future exhibit in the works. As far as I know there are no doodles in our open files at this time."

[840high]

101. Oh snap - facts.

[puffy socks]

129. Guccifer

hasnt proven he acessed her server

[bobbobbins01]

131. He has provided some pretty credible evidence.

He had clintons doodles.

[puffy socks]

132. He hasn't provided

any evidence.

The hacker “Guccifer,” whose real name is Marcel Lehel Lazar, has not been able to prove his claims that he broke into the private server Clinton used when she was secretary of State, and the government has never publicly linked him with the case.


http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/281440-could-romanian-hacker-guccifer-assist-fbis-probe-of-clinton

[bobbobbins01]

133. Evidence:

http://gawker.com/new-hacked-presidential-art-may-be-bill-clintons-white-1476802573

[jfern]

89. All the emails to and from Sidney Blumenthal got exposed to the whole world

[CrowCityDem]

90. By hacking Blumenthol, not Hillary.

[cali]

22. Lol. Poster child for "comparisons are odious"

[passiveporcupine]

125. Don't get your hopes up

Vermont Republicans are asking federal law enforcement officials to investigate Bernie Sanders over allegations that he illicitly pressured a bank to lend money to a college run by his wife.

In a Wednesday letter to a top Justice Department official and a federal ethics watchdog, they alleged that Sanders used his political influence to secure financing for an expansion of Burlington College, which Sanders’ wife led until 2011.

The college announced this month that it would close after the current academic year, citing the “crushing debt” incurred as a result of its purchase of land in Burlington from the city’s Catholic Diocese.

Vermont GOP vice-chair Brady Toensing accused Sanders in the letter of pressuring People’s United Bank to approve a $6.7 million loan application submitted by Jane Sanders, the senator’s wife, in order to secure the financing for that purchase.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/vermont-republicans-ask-feds-probe-sanders-college-loan/

this is phony charges drummed up by a GOP operative to investigate something this "Toensing" guy says he was told.

Not only this, but the bank that the college worked with refused to give them their 1 million dollar yearly loan they need to operate, because of their "crushing" debt, but the debt of 11 million incurred by the property purchase has already been paid down to 2 million. If the bank gave them the loan, I doubt very much the college would be closing...and there is new leadership in the bank (2 years ago) and a fairly recent merger with another financial institution, and I would not be a bit surprised if the bank President in Vermont and his upper ups are working with the GOP to pull this closure now to make an issue they can go after Bernie on.

I'm just guessing here, but it sure sounds fishy to me.

And the only stories I'm finding on this are on conservative sites, and on VTDigger from which I found this:

“As Bernie gains in national polls showing him defeating Republican presidential candidates, it is not surprising that Republican operatives are slinging mud at him and his family.”

Michael Briggs, a spokesman for the senator’s presidential campaign, said in an email later Monday that, Briggs dismissed the allegations as “recycled, discredited garbage” and highlighted Toensing’s connections to the Vermont Republican Party. “Attacks” like the ones leveled by Toensing are “one of the reasons why the American people are so disgusted with politics in America today,” Briggs added.

Yeah, right. I seriously doubt there is anything behind it. They are just trying to find a way to quash Bernie because they are scared he's still in the race. And they are terrified of Bernie winning.

http://vtdigger.org/2016/01/11/vermont-gop-official-requests-federal-probe-into-jane-sanders-fraud-allegations/

[Silver_Witch]

100. But your hero Hillary can refuse to follow rules;

and support fracking - got it!

Take care!

[Thinkingabout]

106. Do you call the actions of Jane Sanders as following rules or aboding by the bank

Fraud laws?

[Demsrule86]

118. If she falsified mortgage documents...

she could end up in the Danbury Connecticut camp fed....where they send white collar criminals...that is very serious. Did ever read the fine print about lying on a mortgage document?

[cali]

3. Lol. No one here takes Toejam seriously.

He dug someone up in order to file this suit. You sure do love this repuke shit. You do know who he is, right?

[grossproffit]

12. Just like Joe diGenova but that hasn't stopped some from using him as a source.

[GreatGazoo]

50. ^^^ This

Alex I'd like "Right Wing Lobbyist Lawyers for $200"

The Answer is: Toensing And diGenova

Who are the right wing media's Benghazi lawyers?

http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/04/30/who-are-the-right-wing-medias-benghazi-lawyers/193842

[passiveporcupine]

126. Good catch there

I could smell something stinky. Just didn't know who besides Toesing was behind it.

[passiveporcupine]

127. No wonder it's only showing up on conservative sites

Toensing and diGenova are longtime Republican activists, and Toensing has a history of pushing dubious claims and falsehoods into the media.

Everyone else is afraid to touch it...with good reason.

OMG, after reading your link, they are quite a pair.

[yallerdawg]

4. May 25, 2016.

OMG! This is new!!!

"...an active Federal investigation."

I hope this gets resolved before the convention?

No - seriously!

[hopemountain]

117. there is nothing to back up this claim

"according to news reports" with no links or references in supposed legal document?

weak.

[yallerdawg]

119. It's a developing story.

Seen Jane on TV lately?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512076234#post107

[hopemountain]

120. yes. a "story". with an

attempt to legitimize an off the wall letter. has the letter been mailed? has it been read?
sounds to me Senator Sanders has cause and grounds for filing harassment charges against the perpetrators.

[yallerdawg]

122. It starts with such a small, inconsequential thing.

And then - "Watergate!"

I gave you links - there are more links - google works for you, too.

I just hope this gets to some resolution before the convention at end of July.

[Thinkingabout]

123. Probably some of this developed after Burlington College was closing. Actually the facts

Was already there but attention directed there with the closure. Could be nasty.

[George II]

6. Uh oh.

[KingFlorez]

7. Oops

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I am of two minds about this...

Our opponents are never reluctant to describe our candidate's problems in the starkest of terms.

Is it appropriate to do the same to them?

[jonmac511]

11. really

I don't remember voting for Jane or even seeing her on the ballot. I guess spouses are fair game. Sounds fun.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. The...

The complaint alleges he used his office to pressure a bank to make the college she bankrupted a loan.


What part of that don't you understand?


Still, I am loathe to exploit it for partisan gain.

[Blanks]

34. Perp walk. eom

[scscholar]

51. Bernie said she is "one of his key advisers"

That opened her up to becoming a legitimate issue. He did it to himself.

[bigtree]

19. it's like calling out republicans for sexual impropriety

...we don't really care to use that issue as a political cudgel, but there they are bashing groups and individuals in the most hypocritical manner imaginable.

Here's the Sanders campaign and supporters fully invested in the notion that, not only Hillary has committed a crime, but that she should be or will be removed from consideration for our nominee, through indictment or some other legal entanglement.

It's more than fair to point to the Sanders' brewing scandal which involves accusations of illegal or improper money transactions which raises questions ranging from fraud, to possible influence-peddling by the Senator, himself. What did he know about the transactions, when did he know it, and what relationship does he have with those approving the transactions?

Will Sanders withdraw from the convention process if there's a lawsuit filed and accepted?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. I hate getting dragged into this tit for tat. I feel most comfortable defending Hillary.

On the proverbial "other hand" the constant attacks on Hillary frost me so I can empathize with those who return them. As to financial improprieties perhaps that is why they are loathe to release more than one year of tax returns.

[bigtree]

21. in the meantime, while we're too nice to weigh in

Robert Sandy ?@frodofied 4h4 hours ago
But do keep filing frivolous lawsuits @BernieSanders which costs your supporters, the states and the Democratic Party money they don't have.

[grossproffit]

46. Yep, we're supposed to walk on eggshells so we don't offend any Bernie supporters.

[PufPuf23]

64. This is an extremely tawdry thread and one could hazard to guess comes out of the Clinton campaign.

I doubt if anything comes to fruit against Jane or Bernie Sanders.

Reminds me of the allegedly fake civil rights photo that turned out to be Sanders after all or the initial seeding of the POTUS Obama birther nonsense in 2008, both covert products of the Clinton campaign or surrogates.

None of the tar you stick to Sanders supporters can you place on me. I have repeatedly said that I thought Clinton would win the nomination. I have repeatedly said that I thought the email controversy would come to nothing (but now I am, starting to wonder). I have never said I would leave the Democratic party but have encouraged others to stay. I have never said that I thought Hillary Clinton should or would be indicted but have stated indictment was unlikely I have never said that I would not vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election and never said I would withhold my vote though recently I made several posts that I may keep my powder dry in the general election regards to POTUS (and I am a California voter). I have been a 100% Democratic voter since 1972 (except voted for John Anderson in GOP POTUS primary in 1980 to stop Reagan) when I aged into the vote. I support Sanders because I would have supported some Democrat other than Hillary Clinton and it is refreshing to get a person who wants to turn the USA away from neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism and violent empire and is more committed to the environment and poor and working class and elders and young and more genuine regards POC and other former minorities.

Let us talk about money and a comparison of Sanders and Clinton. Sanders has the income and accumulated wealth of a typical professional upper middle class American. Hillary Clinton is wealthy. The figures below are the first I found on a simple internet search. Hillary Clinton had most of her $200,000 plus speaking fees after 2010.

https://ballotpedia.org/Net_worth_of_United_States_Senators_and_Representatives#Individual_data

As of 2010 present net worth:

POTUS Obama $7.5 million
Hillary Clinton $31.2 million
Bernie Sanders $0.4 million
John Kerry $238.8 million
Joseph Biden $0.2 million

Hillary (and Bill) Clinton speaking fees and net worth from wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton#Clinton_Foundation_and_speeches

"made appearances on the paid speaking circuit.[409] There she received $200,000–225,000 per engagement, often appearing before Wall Street firms or at business conventions.[409][410] She also made some unpaid speeches on behalf of the foundation.[409] For the fifteen months ending in March 2015, Clinton earned over $11 million from her speeches.[411] For the overall period 2007–14, the Clintons earned almost $141 million, paid some $56 million in federal and state taxes, and donated about $15 million to charity.[412] As of 2015, she was estimated to be worth over $30 million on her own, or $45–53 million with her husband."

The Clinton Foundation wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Foundation

The Clinton Foundation (founded in 2001 as the William J. Clinton Foundation,[4] and called during 2013–15 the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation[5]) is a nonprofit corporation under section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. tax code. It was established by former President of the United States Bill Clinton with the stated mission to "strengthen the capacity of people throughout the world to meet the challenges of global interdependence." The Foundation focuses on improving global health and wellness, increasing opportunity for women and girls, reducing childhood obesity and preventable diseases, creating economic opportunity and growth, and helping communities address the effects of climate change. The Foundation works principally through partnerships with like-minded individuals, organizations, corporations, and governments, often serving as an incubator for new policies and programs. Its offices are located in New York City and Little Rock, Arkansas.

The Clinton Foundation encompasses a number of different efforts and entities, including the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI, spun off into a separate but related organization in 2010), the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI, split off after 2009 but reintegrated after 2013), Clinton Global Initiative University (CGI U), the Clinton Climate Initiative (CCI), the Clinton Development Initiative (CDI), the Clinton Economic Opportunity Initiative, the Clinton Giustra Sustainable Growth Initiative, the Clinton Health Matters Initiative (CHMI), the Alliance for a Healthier Generation, and the No Ceilings Project.

Through 2014 the foundation had raised almost $2 billion from U.S. corporations especially Wall Street; foreign governments and corporations; political donors; and various other moneyed interests.[3] During its lifetime the foundation has received praise from philanthropic experts and has had support from both Democrats and Republicans, with the latter including members of the George W. Bush administration.[3] Charitable grants are not a major focus of the Clinton Foundation, which instead keeps most of its money in house and hires staff to carry out its own humanitarian programs.[6] Because of this unusual structure for a foundation, Charity Navigator, a charity watchdog, has said it does not have a methodology to rate the Clinton Foundation.[6] Consequently, they added the foundation to their charity "watch list" in April 2015; it was removed from the "watch list" in December 2015 after the charity posted amended tax returns and a public memo on its website.[7] A different charity monitor, the American Institute of Philanthropy, says that 89 percent of the foundation's money goes toward its charitable mission and gave the foundation an A rating for 2013.[1]

Questions have been raised about the foundation's financial practices, about its fundraising from foreign governments and corporations, about the transparency of its reporting of its donors, and about possible conflicts of interest between donations to the foundation and the actions of Hillary Clinton when she was U.S. Secretary of State during 2009–13 and in connection with her subsequent 2016 presidential campaign.[2][8][9][10][11] (See also: Transparency of Clinton Foundation.)

In 2016, media outlets reported that in fall 2015 the United States Department of State issued a subpoena to the foundation for records relating to activities by the foundation during Hillary Clinton's term as secretary of state and for information regarding activities by 2016 Clinton campaign vice chairwoman Huma Abedin.

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Consider the topics of money transactions and influence peddling. The Clintons entered politics as middle class in wealth and have become wealthy. Bernie Sanders entered politics as middle class and stayed middle class, one could argue that wealth and income and social status was less important to Sanders who became a career public servant. Hillary Clinton by virtue of time in WH, as Senator, as SOS, and by choice after SOS knew and hung with a variety of wealthy and well-positioned people, often with motives and goals not advantageous except to their own position, wealth, and power, not the 1% but the 00.1%,

The Clintons have income and wealth more than 100X greater than that of Sanders. The Clintons control The Clinton Foundation that has taken in about $2 billion and not without controversy as to source and spending. The Clinton Foundation took an 8 figure donation from Saudi Arabia while Hillary Clinton was SOS. A concern with the emails is that emails released by WikiLeaks indicate that Clinton and Blumenthal were discussing "business" opportunities in Libya. POTUS Obama had forbidden Blumenthal being involved in the State Department so The Clinton Foundation was paying Blumenthal $10,000 per month for his intelligence and advice.

Fifteen people went to prison over Whitewater including Susan McDougal that chose prison over testimony on a real estate deal and associated loans larger than the Burlington College land deal and loans. The main problems with Whitewater at end was the cover-up.

So just by scale there is nothing to compare the questionable actions taken by Clinton versus Sanders, One speech or one discretionary tax choice by the Clintons is essentially Sanders annual income.

Clinton has the ability to if not destroy Sanders politically destroy his reputation and cripple he and his wife's lives by court harassment.
A fair person would not in good conscious make the comparisons.

If this lawsuit is filed and accepted, the motive will be nothing more than to harass and harm Sanders. Most vile. And vile to post and support this at DU. More off the wall than anything posted by a supporter of Sanders.
Will Sanders withdraw from the convention process if there's a lawsuit filed and accepted?

[polly7]

65. ...............

[creeksneakers2]

135. Most of those countries

are part of the Gulf Cooperation Council. The Council has Saudi Arabia as its largest component. The entire Obama Administration had an initiative to create a defensive barrier to Iran. The initiative included those countries in the council. So what you are showing it meant to look like a pattern, its mostly just a single initiative that Hillary was only part of.

"The US has already made progress in these areas. It has long been a major supplier to the Gulf Cooperation Council states, and has already sold Saudi Arabia the E-2AAWACS surveillance aircraft, Sikorsky’s UH-60 Black Hawks, Raytheon-built Patriot and Hawk missile defense systems, and General Dynamics Corp.’s M1A2 tanks. It has worked with the GCC states in joint exercises, and has quietly developed a high level of cooperation in counterterrorism. It has worked with these states in developing counters to Iran’s steadily increasing capabilities for naval asymmetric warfare, and operations against offshore and coastal targets, and is steadily upgrading the air defense forces of many GCC state to provide missile defense capabilities."

https://www.csis.org/analysis/new-saudi-arms-deal


The initiative continues under John Kerry, who received no foundation donations.

[PufPuf23]

10. Who are diGenova & Toensing?

http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/04/30/who-are-the-right-wing-medias-benghazi-lawyers/193842

Who Are The Right-Wing Media's Benghazi Lawyers Victoria Toensing And Joseph diGenova?

Toensing And diGenova Are Pushing Claims That Obama Administration Is Threatening Benghazi Witnesses In Cover-Up

Toensing And diGenova Are Pushing Claims In The Media That Obama Administration Is Issuing Threats To Witnesses About Benghazi. According to Fox News, Toensing is now representing one of the supposed whistleblowers in her role with diGenova & Toensing, where she and her husband are partners. [Media Matters, 4/30/13; Fox News, 4/29/13; Breitbart.com, 4/29/13]

Toensing And diGenova Are Longtime Republicans

Toensing And diGenova Both Identify As Republicans. [DiGenovaToensing.com, accessed 4/30/13; DiGenovaToensing.com, accessed 4/30/13]

Toensing Served As Reagan Deputy Assistant Attorney General. Toensing served as deputy assistant attorney general in the Criminal Division of the U.S. Justice Department during the Reagan administration and was Sen. Barry Goldwater's chief counsel. [DiGenovaToensing.com, accessed 4/30/13]

Toensing And diGenova Both Served As Advisers To Romney In 2008. The two previously supported and advised the campaign of Fred Thompson. [American Presidency Project, accessed 4/30/13]

more at link

================================

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/nbc043098.htm

DiGenova & Toensing, Partners At Jaw

Joe diGenova and wife Victoria Toensing, the high-profile Washington superlawyers, have signed a deal to make regular appearances on the network's cable outlets, CNBC and MSNBC.

As if to underscore their insider status, Toensing said Tuesday night on MSNBC's "News With Brian Williams" that she'd just "had a meeting" with Newt Gingrich and that the House speaker "had a message for you." The message, she told Williams, is that a recent report that Gingrich is weighing impeachment hearings against both President Clinton and Vice President Gore is "absolutely false."

Toensing, a former federal prosecutor, and diGenova, a former U.S. attorney here, wear a number of hats. The law partners are the outside counsel for a House committee's investigation of the Teamsters union and its ties to the Democrats. The couple also represent the committee's Republican chairman, Dan Burton of Indiana, in a probe of whether he improperly demanded campaign donations from a lobbyist for Pakistan. Toensing represents Gingrich's wife, Marianne, on ethics matters. And the two are registered lobbyists for such groups as the American Hospital Association.

"I'm always identified as a Republican," Toensing said yesterday. "We enjoy doing [television]. To do it to the degree we were doing it, it's reasonable to be paid for it. It also means cutting out some of our other appearances" because of the exclusive arrangement with CNBC and MSNBC.

========================================
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Toensing

Victoria Toensing (born c. 1940) is a lawyer, and partner with her husband, Joseph DiGenova, in the Washington law firm DiGenova and Toensing.[1] Her practice specializes in white-collar criminal defense, regulatory inquiries, and legislative advocacy. She has appeared as a legal commentator on several networks including CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC.

Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Involvement in Monica Lewinsky scandal
3 Involvement in Valerie Plame scandal
4 Electoral politics
5 References
6 External links

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This possible lawsuit is lowdown nasty from the depths of right wing sleaze GOP.

Proud of yourself?

[jonmac511]

13. Thank you for this

I had no idea who they were but I've seen sources harshly criticized by so many Clinton folk that I'd be sure they'd have anything but rw as sources. I'm learning quickly!

[grossproffit]

15. Aw. Welcome to DU!

[yallerdawg]

33. Now they can explain to you what exactly is...

"Judicial Watch," the "Benghazi Committee," and the "Republican Party" in the interest of fairly identifying sources.

[jonmac511]

40. got that covered

Those are pretty well known but I'm just surprised in the contradictions from thread to thread. One thread one side is blasting the other over sources in the OP and the next thread, that same side is using obscure(to me anyways) RW sources. I usually learn quickly but I will pay extra special attention to sources.(i did see the AP called a RW rag, so it may take some sorting out.)

[PufPuf23]

79. You are welcome. I'd like to say things at DU are not typically this extreme but

there is a new normal now. lol

[grossproffit]

14. Joe diGenova has been used as a source here by some BS supporters.

Hopefully others will see your post.

Edited out: quite frequently. That's too broad a brush stroke. Sorry.

[PufPuf23]

24. Could you please link to diGenova being used by Sanders supporters here at DU?

I seem to have missed that but as a habit am aware of sources used at DU.

[grossproffit]

30. Sure. Here's a few

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280153524

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511264941

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511528669

[PufPuf23]

66. Thank you. I can see they were a source. Also evidently they are or were under contract to at least

MSNBC.

I see this proposed lawsuit (and some of their other actions) as a conflict of interest between being personalities on the TV and professionals representing a client.

Be attorneys of record and filing a lawsuit is fundamentally different from serving as a commentator, however biased.

One wonders who is paying for their work and who arranged for their representation.

[hopemountain]

29. yes. because the gop are terrified

sanders will be the nominee. terrified. a huge clue to the gop believing hillary will be indicted and trump will be facing sanders.

[PufPuf23]

70. Interesting on how the most rabid Clinton supporters were first to find

the lawsuit and drop it a DU and huddle about.

So the source could be Trump, GOP, or Clinton.

I have a spidey sense that the sane GOP and the neo-liberal / neo-conservative Democratic establishment would rather see Trump than Sanders as POTUS and rather see Clinton than Trump to follow in the footsteps of Regan Bush I Bill Clinton Bush 2, and POTUS Obama (to a lesser extent).

Things are not going so according to original plan of the DNC / Democratic establishment / Hillary Clinton.

The next six months looks to be interesting.

[hopemountain]

73. yes. hope there are more

spidey senses about because dems really do need to pull together with the progressive dems in the lead - not the two-faced 3rd wayers.

[PufPuf23]

75. Amen. Hope springs eternal eom

[WhiteTara]

43. These are the same people who say Hillary will be in jail

any day now. They are just as reputable about her as they are about him. Should be interesting to see who they can bring up on charges first. lol

[PufPuf23]

71. Some folks are bound and determined to spread confusion.

I would be lost if I didn't have the excess time and inclination to hang at DU.

[WhiteTara]

78. I have been put down here on DU when I talk about the right wing bias of

diGenova and Toensing who I consider real haters.

[PufPuf23]

81. diGenova and Toensing appear to be real pieces of work.

I am truly surprised by who started the OP and posters that championed the OP.

Weird.

[WhiteTara]

86. They are used so frequently to slam Clinton

that perhaps they thought they were credible sources. It seems that only when they bash Bernie, that the truth is allowed to stand.

[PufPuf23]

87. I expect much better than this from the OP.

They know better and posted anyway.

[WhiteTara]

88. I was thinking

tit for tat

[PufPuf23]

91. There is no comparison in the level of mischief that could be associated

with the Clintons compared to the Sanders because of relative wealth and contacts.

I see consistent projection of Clinton characteristics onto Sanders out of the Clinton campaign (my bias).

The poo gets thrown and more new poo the next day.

Imaginative.

[passiveporcupine]

128. If I'd seen some of those links you posted,

I might have linked to them too. Because the links themselves are not right wing sites. And I had no idea who Toensing and diGenova were until this thread came up. Now I know their names and will never link to anything they might be in, unless it's to discredit them.

And the same may be for the people you are accusing of using them as gop links.

The links themselves were not the problem...the fact that they contain these two is. But not everyone knows about these two.

[woolldog]

18. Sanders is corrupt.

Thank god he has no chance of getting nominated.

[cali]

25. Bwaaahaha

Pathetic.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. That is rough. All we have is a complaint. We need to see his answer.

[cali]

35. Where has this lawsuit been filed?

[passiveporcupine]

130. It hasn't been

it's garbage.

[yallerdawg]

36. Unlike Hillary.

All you need is a complaint.

We shouldn't have double standards, should we?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. An eye for an eye leaves us all blind...

But I would be a hypocrite if I said I don't find that complaint interesting.

One can infer that if the benefits from the unholy loan are to be found in their tax returns that is why they are loathe to release them.

[yallerdawg]

45. Oh, have I got something for you!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

55. When we sink to the tactics of our enemies they win....

[yallerdawg]

61. I can't remember.

Was that McGovern or Dukakis who said that?

[PufPuf23]

76. Where did the OP obtain the document? Looks like a scoop for DU

from the Clinton supporters.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

98. That wasn't hard.

Open


http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2016/05/26/gop-official-levels-burlington-college-related-allegation-against-sanders


and scroll down

[PufPuf23]

102. Thank you. The source was not in OP and there was no response to oher requests for a source.

Stay proud.

edit to add from link:


Brady Toensing is the vice chair of the Vermont Republican Party. Wendy Wilkins [sic] is a former Republican candidate for statewide office. Bernie is currently running for president of the United States to make certain that the Republican candidate, Donald Trump, will not become president of the United States and do disastrous harm to our country. Nothing more needs to be said about this preposterous and politically-instigated charge. Sadly, making outrageous and lying personal attacks against candidates and their families is what modern-day Republican politics is all about.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

103. " Stay proud."

Always, pal.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

99. .

[hopemountain]

32. chicken trump and the rest of the gop

can see the handwriting on the wall - hillary will be indicted and sanders will be the dem candidate for president.

[hobbit709]

26. Metabolic byproducts are impacting the atmospheric impellers in record amounts.

[onehandle]

37. Explains why she has disappeared from TV news. nt

[Dem2]

38. The language of that complaint is excessively political

This is a politically motivated action and I don't like it.

[catnhatnh]

44. What fucking moron thinks this is a lawsuit?

It's a letter from a right wing smear merchant that happens to be a lawyer. Notice it's on stationary and not from a court? In what legal venue do you sue a past employee of the corporation that you allege harmed you and what judge do you imagine will order the past employee's spouse, a sitting US Senator not only to submit paperwork of his, but that also he should release it publicly? In short Sanders would be well within his rights to sue this asshole for libel. But the asshole doesn't care-he's just one more flying chair from the desperate, another edited-in homophobic tune, one more pile of shit a dying campaign tries to get to stick on a wall.

[MrMickeysMom]

94. ^^^^Ahhhmmm.... THIS RIGHT HERE! ^^^^^

Charmin toilet paper would go well with the stuff I've read.

[procon]

47. This is a request for public records addressed to Bernie Sanders.

The letter specifically mentions his office and a possible improper loan... which might have been facilitated by the senator calling the bank in question? It also alleges there is an "active federal investigation"... where's some of that fabled transparency we keep hearing about?

[passiveporcupine]

134. "It also alleges there is an "active federal investigation"

If there is one, it's because these two initiated it.

In January, Vermont GOP officials sent letters requesting that U.S. Attorney Eric Miller and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation investigate Sanders for potential fraud. Miller said Thursday he was unable to confirm or deny the existence of a federal investigation.

http://vtdigger.org/2016/05/20/trustees-say-feds-may-be-investigating-burlington-college-land-deal-but-no-official-confirmation/

Those Vermont GOP officials would be Toensing and diGenova

Smith was quoted in Seven Days this week speculating that the controversy surrounding the loan and land deal gave People’s United Bank cold feet, prompting the bank to drop renewal of a line of credit the college was depending on to make it to the fall when tuition dollars would start rolling in again.

Torti and other trustees have said the school was closer than ever to being solvent.

And who do you think was behind this? Yeah...the same two GOP officials from Vermont.

They have destroyed a college and the kids who were enrolled and waiting for transcripts and diplomas and all over politics. I hope karma doesn't miss them.

[barrow-wight]

49. Does the sainted Bernard have a chink in the armor?

Perish the thought!

[Sancho]

52. Trey Gowdy and the FBI will need something to do this summer...maybe a trip to Burlington?

Where are Jane and the tax returns?

[Gothmog]

56. Trump would tear Sanders apart if Sanders was the nominee

[jack_krass]

93. You guys are a riot. Let me help you: Trump is scared to death of

Bernie Sanders, and too chickenshit even to debate Bernie, or even say a single negative thing about him... The only thing Trump is gonna tear apart is HRC, where there is much more "low hanging fruit", so to say.

[Shrike47]

59. This is not a proper request for production, it's a press-release and hit piece.

Don't be confused by this, it's just a smear.

[asuhornets]

63. That's why she has not been on TV lately....nt

[B Calm]

67. No working link to the source? DMCA Copyright Policy

Violation?

[bigtree]

109. thread winner

[cherokeeprogressive]

68. So you're tight with Joe and Vicky now, huh? Quelle surprise...

[QC]

69. JANEGHAZI!!!!!1!!!11

If I thought you were speaking in good faith, I would recommend that you Google diGenova and Toensing and see what sort of people they are.

[B Calm]

72. How about you giving us a working link to the source?

[PufPuf23]

74. I think it fairly obvious that the OP is on email lists or other wise has contact

with Clinton campaign for materials to spread on the internet.

If so, very sleazy.

[B Calm]

80. Since when is it okay to copy/paste a post on DU without a working link to the source?

I remember a time when administration would never allow this.

[PufPuf23]

82. New rules!

Nothing surprises me anymore about people.

Glad there are good surprises left in the world (but not enough).

[B Calm]

83. Lopsided rules in favor for the Hillary camp. When I put in scribe.com I

get a website for audio books. This stinks to high heaven!

[PufPuf23]

85. Agree. Smells cheesy....

as in "cheap, unpleasant, or blatantly inauthentic" (Oxford Dictionary).

Real sloppy.

Waiting for the link. Patience.

[bigtree]

110. watch me make you disappear

[polly7]

77. Do you have a link for where you got this, please? nt.

[bigtree]

115. no secret Vermont republicans are accusing Sanders of fraud and seeking a federal investigation

In a letter to U.S. Attorney Eric Miller, Vermont Republican Party Vice Chairman Brady Toensing said that he “was recently approached and informed that Senator Bernard Sanders’s office improperly pressured People’s United Bank to approve the loan application submitted by the Senator’s wife, Ms. Sanders.”

Toensing also called on Sen. Sanders to release any documents related to his involvement in the financing deal.

This week, Toensing also wrote a letter to Sanders, calling on him to “publicly release all documents concerning Burlington College and your [Sen. Sanders’] involvement with a loan application submitted by your wife, as President of Burlington College, to a federally-insured bank for a $10 million property transaction.

Toensing is an attorney in Washington, D.C. and is representing Wendy Wilton, a Rutland Republican who is seeking the federal investigation, according to Toensing’s letter, because she is a member of the Immaculate Heart of Mary parish in Rutland Vermont. According to Toensing, Wilton alleges the financing deal cost the Catholic Diocese to lose $2 million.


http://digital.vpr.net/post/republicans-claim-sanders-used-senate-office-help-wife-burlington-college

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2016/05/26/gop-official-levels-burlington-college-related-allegation-against-sanders

[emulatorloo]

84. Big tree, that group are long time vIrulant REPUBLICAN HACKS

Start here:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Victoria_Toensing

<snip>

Republican partisan
"Toensing is, of course, not only a pricey DC defense lawyer. She's also a professional Republican, one tightly connected with the DC GOP power structure, and someone you could find at pretty much any point in the late nineties as an anti-Clinton 'legal expert' on every chat show under the sun," Joshua Micah Marshall wrote January 1, 2004, at Talking Points Memo.

"Joe DiGenova (as well as his wife and law partner Victoria Toensing) is a part of the DC Republican establishment who is routinely put forward when legal opinions are needed which exculpate Republicans or inculpate Democrats.

"There's no other way to put it. Look at their public statements in the various Clinton 'scandals', the Fitzgerald investigation and now this case. In their voluminous public pronouncements they are both, in the clearest sense of the word, advocates. And their 'client' is the Republican party establishment in Washington, DC. That's fine, as far as it goes. But they should be identified as such, albeit perhaps in gentler terms, when they provide quotes in papers like the [Washington] Times," Marshall wrote November 25, 2005, at Talking Points Memo.

[bigtree]

112. that doesn't look to be a concern for the Sanders campaign

...who has spent this campaign vibing off of republicans; especially DU Sanders supporters.

After DOZENS of republican-based charges against Hillary allowed to stand by juries here, I've lost all concern about the source. I may or not agree with them, but I'm hellbent on bringing these charges here in the name of equity.

[Logical]

92. Another HIT AND RUN post from Big Tree.

[MrMickeysMom]

95. He forgot something....

I had to flush twice.

[B Calm]

96. Yea, a working link to the source.

[yallerdawg]

97. Here's your link:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/313932605/Toensing-Letter-to-Senator-Sanders-Re-Burlington-College-Documents

And a bonus!

https://www.scribd.com/doc/313932607/Toensing-Letter-to-U-S-Attorney-of-Vt-Federal-Inspector-Gen-Re-Burlington-College-Loan

[catnhatnh]

105. That's where I always get valuable insights into current events...

a fucking book club...

[yallerdawg]

107. I can see your getting frustrated.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/what-happened-at-burlington-college/482973/

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2016/05/26/gop-official-levels-burlington-college-related-allegation-against-sanders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlington_College

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/local/2016/02/22/founder-sues-burlington-college-alleges-misused-funds/80750564/

[B Calm]

124. Gee thanks bigtree , but you are not

big tree. Please tell your pals from now on to add a working link to the source when they copy/paste an OP. Now edit the link to the OP, because right now the link is not where it should be.

[choie]

104. Brady Toensing is related to

Victoria Toensing, Republican mouthpiece and her husband Joseph Di Geoova, another Republican bastard....

[yallerdawg]

108. Ask Democratic Gov. Don Siegelman if this means nothing.

We just want this to be resolved before the convention, right?

We wouldn't want indictments and trials if one were to be running for president, right?

OMG - what would happen if this came down while president?

[bigtree]

111. I think Biden would be a good convention stand-in for Bernie

...

[yallerdawg]

114. I hadn't thought of that!

For a year he certainly was proposed to step in for Hillary when she was "hauled off to prison!"

Since Hillary won't be needing a substitute...

[AtomicKitten]

121. There it is: This election cycle's "whitey tape."