Be Like Bernie: Sanders Looks To Spread His Political Wealth

[Uncle Joe]

The political revolution that Bernie Sanders began may still be felt at the ballot box this November even if he's not the Democratic nominee for president.

The Vermont senator is beginning to expand his political network by helping upstart progressive congressional candidates and state legislators, lending his fundraising prowess and national fame to boost their bids.

And win or lose for the White House hopeful, Sanders's candidacy has given them a prominent national messenger and new energy they hope will trickle down-ballot in primaries and the general election.

"Bernie Sanders is really building this political revolution all the way up and down the ballot," said Matt Blizek, MoveOn.org's electoral field director. "His entire campaign, the mantra has been 'not me, us.'"

(snip)

"Bernie believes that the path toward bold change requires leaders to take back control of state capitols around the country and ensure fair redistricting in 2020," Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver wrote in a release announcing the endorsements. "The leaders we're raising money for today are the members of Congress, senators and presidential candidates of tomorrow."

(snip)

Progressive leaders particularly praised Sanders's attention to state-level races, something often overlooked in national politics but are contests that can prove especially critical when it comes to redistricting — which was detrimental to Democrats after their massive 2010 losses.

"He's bringing this national attention to down-ballot races and the importance of state legislative races. He's saying that it isn't just about the presidency," Taylor said.

http://www.npr.org/2016/05/28/479757235/be-like-bernie-sanders-looks-to-spread-his-political-wealth

This is a good read.

[CrowCityDem]

1. What??

Progressive leaders particularly praised Sanders's attention to state-level races

Are we talking about the same Bernie? This is the guy who didn't even know that a United States Senate candidate in Pennsylvania had publicly endorsed him. You can say a lot of things about Bernie, but his attention on lower level races is not a selling point.

[democrattotheend]

16. I think that is starting to change

Unlike Hillary, he raised most of his money from people who could not necessarily afford to give both to him and his downballot choices. So before Hillary built such a big delegate lead, it made sense for him not to "share the wealth" that much. But now that it is unlikely he will be nominated unless something drastic happens, he is willing to focus more on the downballot races. I am glad to see him doing so.

[CrowCityDem]

18. Basically...

what you're saying is that it's somehow positive that Bernie didn't give a flip about helping down-ballot Dems until he knew he was going to lose, at which point that's the only positive thing he can do with his campaign. Sounds awfully self-serving to me.

[democrattotheend]

20. That's not what I am saying

I am saying that, like most politicians who raise money from small donors, he was reluctant to do a lot of fundraising for downballot candidates that might come at the expense of his own campaign. For example, between June and November 2008, while Obama did appeal to his larger donors who were maxed out to help Hillary pay off debt, he declined requests from the Clinton camp to send out an e-mail appeal to his small donors on her behalf. He did send out such an e-mail in late November or early December 2008, after the election.

Sure, it's self-serving, but it makes sense strategically, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it. If anything, I have more of a problem with Hillary locking up so many superdelegate endorsements before anyone could vote based in part on her past efforts to fund-raise for other candidates and keeping a list of who has and hasn't done her favors (this is well-documented).

Interestingly, I noticed that some of the candidates Bernie is helping are not even superdelegates. For example, Zephyr Teachout is not listed as a superdelegate for New York. Neither is Tim Canova, in Florida. The fact that Bernie is directing down-ballot efforts toward candidates who are not even superdelegates shows that he is less self-serving than most.

[CrowCityDem]

21. It's not just fundraising. He didn't even endorse/talk about anyone but himself for a long time.

[brooklynite]

2. "helping upstart progressive congressional candidates"...all four of them?

[bobbobbins01]

10. You think he should be less selective?

I for one think a vetting process is not a bad idea.

[brooklynite]

11. Well if vetting means "did they endorse me..."

You're telling me there are only four qualified Berniecrats running?

[bobbobbins01]

13. Well Bernie is running for president and doing 2-3 events a day.

I'm sure there is a little more to vetting someone than just finding out if they consider them self a Berniecrat. So yes, I think his number of endorsements are just about right. And he's splitting his donations with them, which is a pretty strong statement.

[riderinthestorm]

3. Bernie’s coattails - a list of 191 progressives that are on board this revolution

http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?4694-Bernie-s-Coat-Tails-Important-List-of-Bernie-Democrats-Running-for-Office

We've been donating and volunteering for them for months along with others like Tim Canova and Lucy Flores.

Skip the DNC middleman and give directly.

[Uncle Joe]

5. Thanks for the addition, riderinthestorm.

[TwilightZone]

4. He should have started 25 years ago.

And he might have had a better chance this year.

[Uncle Joe]

7. Bernie co-found and led for the first eight years the largest membership organization

in the Democratic Congressional Caucus and this while he was a Congressman from a small state.

During his first year in the House, Sanders often alienated allies and colleagues with his criticism of both political parties as working primarily on behalf of the wealthy. In 1991, Sanders co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus, a group of mostly liberal Democrats that Sanders chaired for its first eight years.[14]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

The Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) is the largest membership organization within the Democratic congressional caucus in the United States Congress with 71 members.[4] The CPC is a left-leaning organization that works to advance progressive and liberal issues and positions.[5][6][7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus

His run for the Presidency and power of his message has now allowed him to greatly aid an increasing number of Progressive Candidates throughout the nation and he's not finished yet by a long shot.

[TwilightZone]

9. Being in the CPC /= getting other Democrats elected and building a coalition

"During his first year in the House, Sanders often alienated allies and colleagues with his criticism of both political parties as working primarily on behalf of the wealthy."

Did you miss that part of what you quoted? That part hasn't really changed.

[Uncle Joe]

14. Not at all, Bernie's point was valid whether members of the Congress wish to admit it or not.

Many if not most of them have even admitted they must spend much energy and most of their time raising money for their next election.

This usually means kowtowing to the wealthy and/or mega-corporations to fund them because running for election is expensive.

While they knew he spoke the truth it still bothered them just as an alcoholic or someone addicted to drugs is aggravated by people that tell them they have a problem.

[madokie]

6. Awesome read, thank you

have a wonderful weekend.

Peace

[Uncle Joe]

8. Thank you, madokie.

Peace to you.

[Tarc]

12. He's "helping", sure, in some cases by trying to primary Democratic incumbents

That money could be better utilized in the fall to fight the Republican opposition.

[Uncle Joe]

15. Some Democratic incumbents should be primaried and some of these candidates are challenging

Republicans.

[democrattotheend]

17. Here's one interesting tidbit

Often, politicians negotiate endorsements prior to announcing them. For example, I recall reading that Kerry and Obama met in December 2007 and Kerry decided he would endorse Obama, and they agreed that the Obama campaign would pick the right time to roll the endorsement out to have maximum impact (he ended up choosing the day after he lost the New Hampshire primary).

It appears Bernie doesn't do endorsements that way:

Canova, a law professor who's challenging Wasserman Schultz in her Southern Florida district, was driving by himself to a campaign event when his phone started buzzing last Saturday. A staffer told him they had gotten a call from a CNN producer that Sanders had just endorsed him in an interview with Jake Tapper set to air Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union." The next phone call was from that producer asking for a reaction.

In other words, Canova had no idea Bernie was going to endorse him. I think that's pretty cool.

[Uncle Joe]

19. I feel the same way, democrattotheend.

[senz]

22. From last February: "191 Bernie Democrats Running For Public Office So Far"

It has been going on for awhile, so don't pay attention to the uninformed (or worse) Hill Folk upthread.

Expats For Bernie has compiled this list of 191 candidates who are running with Bernie for Federal and State Senate and Fed and State Congress.

Mind you, this list is several months old, so it's not complete and there may have been changes. Check the Expats for Sanders page on Facebook for updates.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z AA AB
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Sanders Democrats
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*If you find this information helpful, please consider clicking here to join us at Expats for Sanders on Facebook.
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State Name Level Office District Status Sanders Dem Profile Notes
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Alabama Jesse Smith Federal House 3 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1OYkLbK
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Alaska
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Arizona Juan Mendez State House 26 Serving http://on.fb.me/1Q1Adm8
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Arizona Lennie Clark Federal Senate AZ Candidate http://on.fb.me/1nyiJmO *Running against John McCain
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Arizona Mark Cardenas State House 19 Serving http://on.fb.me/22WJ9i3
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Arizona Martin Quezada State Senate 29 Serving http://on.fb.me/1TRvlPE
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Arizona Raúl Grijalva Federal House 3 Serving http://on.fb.me/1TRicGt
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Arkansas
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California Preston Picus Federal House 12 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1RIoNUs *Progressive Independent
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California Steve Stokes Federal Senate CA Candidate http://on.fb.me/23jDKSg
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California Bao Ngyuen Federal House 46 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1WjQp2f
*Currently Mayor of the City of Garden Grove, California
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Colorado Elet Valentine State House 7 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1KaBhxJ
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Colorado Jeff Hart State House 6 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1SLjlRz
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Colorado Jon Biggerstaff State Senate 33 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1OYmX2M *Independent
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Colorado Wade Norris State House 27 Candidate
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Connecticut Stephanie Piddock Federal House 5 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1P676cq *Green Party
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Connecticut Gary Winfield State Senate 10 Serving *Assistant Majority Leader
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Connecticut Peter Tercyak State House 26 Serving
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Connecticut Robyn Porter State House 94 Serving
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Connecticut Ed Vargas State House 6 Serving
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Delaware
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Florida Alina Valdes Federal House 25 Candidate http://on.fb.me/200jdmG
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Florida David Kearns State House 53 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1Sf5SSz
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Florida Sean Guthrie Federal Senate FL Candidate http://on.fb.me/1OYrgva
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Florida Tim Canova Federal House 23 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1W2mjB0 *Running against Debbie Wasserman Schultz
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Florida Emmanuel Morel State Senate 27 Candidate
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Georgia LaDawn Jones State House 62 Serving
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Georgia Vincent Fort State Senate 39 Serving *Flipped from HRC
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Hawaii Russell Ruderman State Senate 2 Serving http://on.fb.me/1Q1IxCq
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Idaho
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Illinois Marcus Lewis Federal House 2 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1Q1wNQv
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Illinois Will Guzzardi State House 39 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1IZRLhk
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Indiana
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Iowa Gary Kroeger Federal House 1 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1ZhuGsk
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Iowa Tom Fiegen Federal Senate IA Candidate http://on.fb.me/1mSPSJD * Running against Chuck Grassley (R).
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Kansas Gail Finney State House 84 Serving http://on.fb.me/1l1S4g1
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Kentucky Geoff Young Federal House 6 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1mTcz07
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Louisiana
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Maine Matthew Dunlap State SOS ME Serving http://on.fb.me/1Nng6sv
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Maine Troy Jackson State Senate 35 Serving http://on.fb.me/1JH2FZk
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Maine Jeff McCabe State Senate 3 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1Se3Z9r *Currently the Maine House Majority Leader
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Maine Geoff Gratwick State Senate 9 Serving http://on.fb.me/1UtrGb9
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Maine Robert Alley State House 138 Serving http://on.fb.me/1QxIRY1
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Maine John Patrick State Senate 18 Serving http://on.fb.me/1PKg9q2
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Maine Dave Miramant State Senate 12 Serving http://on.fb.me/20bML0Q
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Maine Ralph Chapman State House 133 Serving http://on.fb.me/1nWCqEN *Independent
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Maine James Campbell State House 138 Serving http://on.fb.me/20AwaAx *Independent/Former Republican
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Maine Lydia Blume State House 3 Serving http://on.fb.me/1PJztNS
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Maine Roberta Beavers State House 2 Serving http://on.fb.me/201orJA
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Maine Heidi Brooks State House 61 Serving
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Maine James Campbell State House 21 Serving *Independent
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Maine Benjamin Chipman State House 40 Serving *Originally Independent
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Maine Michael Devin State House 90 Serving
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Maine Mark Dion State House 43 Serving
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Maine Donna Doore State House 85 Serving
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Maine Michelle Dunphy State House 122 Serving
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Maine Jeffrey Evangelos State House 91 Serving *Independent
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Maine Richard Farnsworth State House 37 Serving
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Maine Paul Gilbert State House 74 Serving
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Maine Adam Goode State House 127 Serving
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Maine Scott Hamann State House 32 Serving
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Maine Denise Harlow State House 36 Serving
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Maine George Hogan State House 13 Serving
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Maine Brian Hubbell State House 135 Serving
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Maine Michel Lajoie State House 58 Serving
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Maine Gina Melaragno State House 62 Serving
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Maine Kimberly Monaghan State House 30 Serving
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Maine Christine Powers State House 68 Serving
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Maine Diane Russell State House 39 Serving
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Maine Deane Rykerson State House 1 Serving
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Maine Robert Saucier State House 147 Serving
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Maine Stanley Short State House 106 Serving *Switched from D to I, and then Rejoined Ds
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Maine Stephen Stanley State House 143 Serving
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Maine Peter Stuckey State House 42 Serving
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Maine Ryan Tipping-Spitz State House 123 Serving
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Maryland Heather Mizeur N/A N/A Future Candidate http://on.fb.me/1neEpUq
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Maryland Terence Strait Federal House 4 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1OYl5XP
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Maryland Tony Puca Federal House 6 Candidate
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Massachusetts Jamie Eldridge State Senate Mid/Wor Serving http://on.fb.me/1OlTZX9
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Massachusetts Pat Jehlen State Senate Mid 2 Serving http://on.fb.me/1OUeetc
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Massachusetts Michael J. Moran State House Suffolk 18 Serving
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Massachusetts Dan Wolf State Senate Cape/Island Serving
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Massachusetts Mary Keefe State House Wor 15 Serving
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Michigan
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Minnesota Karen Clark State House 62A Serving/Re-Election http://on.fb.me/1mSWM1j
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Minnesota Keith Ellison Federal House 5 Serving http://on.fb.me/1ZXFbDm
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Minnesota Shawn Olson State Senate 8 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1KgsoTv
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Mississippi
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Missouri Winston Apple State Lt. Governor MO Candidate http://on.fb.me/1PoVt0K
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Missouri John Collins-Muhammad State House 77 Candidate
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Missouri Cori Bush Federal Senate MO Candidate
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Montana Amanda Curtis State House HD 74 Candidate
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Nebraska
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Nevada Alex Singer Federal House 3 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1JH9dHA
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Nevada Lucy Flores Federal House 4 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1OLyixG
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Nevada Richard Segerblom State Senate 3 Serving http://on.fb.me/1OYn7Hy
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Nevada Garrett LeDuff State House 2 Candidate *Early stages of candidacy
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Nevada Jesse Sabaih Federal House 3 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1RwHIT2
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New Hampshire
Andrew White State House 13 Serving http://on.fb.me/1TRnim1
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New Hampshire
Andy Schmidt State House 1 Serving http://on.fb.me/1OYqJt1
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New Hampshire
Geoffrey Hirsch State House 6 Serving http://on.fb.me/1RImf8M
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New Hampshire
George Sykes State House 13 Serving http://on.fb.me/1l1YdZA
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New Hampshire
Gilman Shattuck State House 1 Serving http://on.fb.me/1W28hPD
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New Hampshire
Jane Beaulieu State House 45 Serving http://on.fb.me/1mS2hN7
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New Hampshire
Lee Oxenham State House 1 Serving http://on.fb.me/1OMFjSk
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New Hampshire
Marcia Moody State House 17 Serving http://on.fb.me/1OffuZD
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New Hampshire
Patrick Long State House 10 Serving http://on.fb.me/1PTDORr
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New Hampshire
Peter Bixby State House 17 Serving http://on.fb.me/1Off99q
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New Hampshire
Richard McNamara State House 38 Serving http://on.fb.me/1Q1Ikz7
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New Hampshire
Robert Renny Cushing State House 21 Serving http://on.fb.me/1mT8VTX
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New Hampshire
Robert Theberge State House 3 Serving http://on.fb.me/1OYnnGk
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New Hampshire
Shawn O'Connor Federal House 1 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1ULiheR
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New Hampshire
Tim Smith State House 17 Serving http://on.fb.me/1IZND0U
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New Hampshire
Travis Bennett State House 8 Serving http://on.fb.me/1RyV3el
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New Hampshire
Wayne Burton State House 6 Serving http://on.fb.me/1RIm8tS
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New Jersey Alex Law Federal House 1 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1mRPytV
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New Jersey Eloy Delgado Federal House 8 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1RJ9qN3
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New Jersey John Wisniewski State House 19 Serving http://on.fb.me/1OnXJFm
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New Jersey Peter Jacob Federal House 7 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1meaZES
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New Jersey Richard McFarlane Federal House 11 Candidate
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New Mexico
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New York Bill Perkins Federal House 13 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1N45f6r *Currently in New York Senate
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New York Eric Kinson Federal House 24 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1mTajGj
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New York James Sanders Jr. State Senate 10 Serving http://on.fb.me/1ZXNWgK
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New York Zephyr Teachout Federal House 19 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1KFyBZr
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New York Diana Hird Federal House 18 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1SlH0Y7
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North Carolina John McNeil Federal House 13 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1QGzOnV
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North Dakota Cory McGarvey Federal House ND Candidate http://on.fb.me/1OYrnGW
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Ohio Janet Garrett Federal House 4 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1lbb4Zw
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Ohio Keith Mundy Federal House 16 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1OYrceV
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Ohio Michael Skindell State Senate 23 Serving http://on.fb.me/20bMRWc
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Ohio Kelli Prather Federal Senate OH Candidate http://on.fb.me/1PSu5rG
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Ohio David Sparks State House 43 Candidate
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Oklahoma Tom Guild Federal House 5 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1S4WAao
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Oregon Kevin Stine Federal Senate OR Candidate http://on.fb.me/1KaBSzr
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Pennsylvania John Fetterman Federal Senate PA Candidate http://on.fb.me/1ORTZjf *Currently Mayor of Braddock, PA
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Pennsylvania Kerith Strano Taylor Federal House 5 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1RIn9C7
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Rhode Island
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South Carolina Dimitri Cherny Federal House 1 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1PwKOH4 *Running against Mark Sanford
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South Carolina Justin Bamberg State House 90 Serving http://on.fb.me/1JySypM
*Switched from HRC **Lawyer for Walter Scott's family
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South Carolina Robert Williams State House 62 Serving on.fb.me/1UKRoYw
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South Carolina Terry Alexander State House 59 Serving http://on.fb.me/1RI8vuL
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South Carolina Wendell Gilliard State House 111 Serving http://on.fb.me/1W1XZiC
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South Dakota Ellee Spawn State House 13 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1RIc5oz
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South Carolina Joe Neal State House 70 Serving http://on.fb.me/1X3N1cM
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South Carolina Cezar McKnight State House 101 Serving http://on.fb.me/20sQX78
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Tennessee
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Texas Tom Wakely Federal House 21 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1l26BrQ
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Texas Alex Mendoza State House 65 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1Vceacg
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Utah
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Vermont Amy Sheldon State House ADD-1 Serving http://on.fb.me/1OYnd1X
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Vermont Anthony Pollina State House WAS Serving http://on.fb.me/1OnNPDZ
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Vermont Avram Patt State House LAM-WAS Serving http://on.fb.me/1IZQgQe
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Vermont Bill Frank State House CHI-3 Serving http://on.fb.me/1RyGFmB
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Vermont Christopher Pearson State House CHI-6-4 Serving http://on.fb.me/1ZXHjLh
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Vermont David Sharpe State House ADD-4 Serving http://on.fb.me/1mRTKd0
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Vermont David Zuckerman State Senate CHI Serving http://on.fb.me/1Zhy9aj
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Vermont Diana Gonzalez State House CHI-6-7 Serving http://on.fb.me/1mSVdAt
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Vermont Helen Head State House CHI-7-3 Serving http://on.fb.me/1neuNcu
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Vermont James McCullough State House CHI-2 Serving http://on.fb.me/1P5SXfd
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Vermont Jean O'Sullivan State House CHI-6-2 Serving http://on.fb.me/1OYmQEm
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Vermont Joseph Troiano State House CAL-2 Serving http://on.fb.me/1ZXHZQQ
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Vermont Linda Martin State House LAM-2 Serving http://on.fb.me/1JH2LjF
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Vermont Maida Townsend State House CHI-7-4 Serving http://on.fb.me/1OnOvZU
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Vermont Marjorie Ryerson State House ORA-WAS-ADD Serving http://on.fb.me/1N3VKEm
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Vermont Mark Woodward State House LAM-2 Serving http://on.fb.me/1N3Wtp0
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Vermont Mary Hooper State House WAS-4 Serving http://on.fb.me/1Q1zstk
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Vermont Mary Sullivan State House CHI-6-5 Serving http://on.fb.me/1l1Y73W
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Vermont Matt Dunne State Governor VT Candidate http://on.fb.me/1Kars2X
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Vermont Michael Yantachka State House CHI-4-1 Serving http://on.fb.me/1RIg70h
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Vermont Mollie Burke State House 2-2 Serving http://on.fb.me/1P5PKfF
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Vermont Patsy French State House ORA-WAS-ADD Serving http://on.fb.me/1N3U3GZ
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Vermont Robin Chestnut-Tangerman State House RUT-BEN Serving http://on.fb.me/1Of5Giv
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Vermont Sandy Haas State House WDR-RUT Serving http://on.fb.me/1neuQop
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Vermont Steve Berry State House 4 Serving http://on.fb.me/1l1V9wr
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Vermont Susan Davis State House ORA-1 Serving http://on.fb.me/1l1W53U
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Vermont Teo Zagar State House WDR-4-1 Serving http://on.fb.me/1ZXIdaL
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Vermont Thomas Stevens State House WAS-CHI Serving http://on.fb.me/1mSZ54q
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Vermont Tim Ashe State Senate CHI Serving http://on.fb.me/1IZOxKP
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Vermont Warren Kitzmiller State House WAS-3 Serving http://on.fb.me/1mRRKBD
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Virginia Bill Bunch Federal House 9 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1Rjqkl2
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Washington Angela Marx Federal House 3 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1n86fBn
#StrongerTogether for a better future for OUR posterity
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Washington Luis Moscoso State House 1 Serving http://on.fb.me/1Sf7vjd
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Washington Pramila Jayapal State Senate 37 Serving http://on.fb.me/1mRSruD
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West Virginia Mike Manypenny Federal House 1 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1JGZQre
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West Virginia Billy Smerka State House 51 Candidate
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Wisconsin Tom Breu Federal House 1 Candidate http://on.fb.me/1KaBL7b *Running against Paul Ryan
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Wyoming Charles Pelkey State House


Many thanks to dear Sabrina 1 who I wish were still posting here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511339228

[Uncle Joe]

23. Thanks to Sabrina and thanks to you for the addition, senz.

[AZ Progressive]

24. This is what the Political Revolution should be about

Taking over the party and then congress, no prisoners taken.

[Purveyor]

25. K&R Thanks for posting. eom

[liberal_at_heart]

27. just donated to eight of them today. The Revolution is spreading nationwide!

This is what Bernie speaks of when he talks about Revolution. We need left of center liberals in the White House, in Congress, and Governors too.

[Uncle Joe]

28. Thank you, liberal_at_heart.