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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:25 PM May 2016

Chuck Todd: "Convenience" WAS NOT The Reason Hillary Clinton Had A Private Server




MSNBC's Chuck Todd comments on Hillary Clinton's attempt to triangulate an effective counterstrategy to Donald Trump, while trying to explain away the revelations about her private email server.

"If she said she did it because she was trying to make it harder for Congress to do what they always do -- she could have made it political... and said that was wrong. But admitting that that was the reason, making it harder to do investigations, she could have spun it, saying they'll come after me on anything."

"By trying to come up with other reasons, that doesn't make sense. What was the most logical reason to do this? Convenience isn't it. It is not a convenient thing to have a server in your house. Nor is making it so it is outside the reach of the federal records law, that is the only logical reason to do it."

Andrea Mitchell: "And Freedom Of Information Requests (FOIA)



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/27/chuck_todd_convenience_was_not_the_reason_hillary_had_a_private_server.html


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Chuck Todd: "Convenience" WAS NOT The Reason Hillary Clinton Had A Private Server (Original Post) Segami May 2016 OP
Was Hillary Clinton trying to shield her SoS email... Segami May 2016 #1
There are no legal penalties. I think it's a civil law Press Virginia May 2016 #5
Personal email is not subject to FOIA. LiberalFighter May 2016 #7
My mistake... Segami May 2016 #8
All E-mails on government servers/computers are subject to FOIA -none May 2016 #16
You are of course mistaken. LiberalFighter May 2016 #18
I retired from OCIO/ITS and I think I know a bit more than you do about this. -none May 2016 #21
Sounds like you weren't paying attention, and... scscholar May 2016 #22
What does that have to do with security, beside nothing? -none May 2016 #24
FOIA specifies what information is subject to requests. LiberalFighter May 2016 #25
You have no idea what I think or know. -none May 2016 #27
The problem was that technology did not keep up. Along with budget constraints. LiberalFighter May 2016 #10
"I was lazy" XemaSab May 2016 #2
oh dear you stated this as fact when its only an opinion. duh nt msongs May 2016 #3
Who are you addressing? dchill May 2016 #9
"Chuck Todd: "Convenience" WAS NOT The Reason Hillary Clinton Had A Private Server" .99center May 2016 #15
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #28
It is also what one might do in order to run a rogue State Department (eom) Samantha May 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #6
And when did Chuck Todd ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #11
I think that might be his opinion- babylonsister May 2016 #12
But there's no mistaking the fact ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #13
After Rachel Maddow went under the bus. JoePhilly May 2016 #14
I forgot about that. NanceGreggs May 2016 #17
Welllll...... madamesilverspurs May 2016 #19
One of those things ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #23
She was essentially selling her services as Secretary of State. Marr May 2016 #20
Darn. .. this is awful tandot May 2016 #26
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
1. Was Hillary Clinton trying to shield her SoS email...
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:26 PM
May 2016
... from Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) actions ?


What are the legal penalties?

-none

(1,884 posts)
16. All E-mails on government servers/computers are subject to FOIA
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:59 PM
May 2016

It doesn't make any difference whether they are personal E-mails or not. If they are on a government computer, they are subject to federal rules and regulations. Rules and regulation based on the law.
Since Hillary used her private E-mail server for her SoS job, outside the overview of the government, she broke several laws and breached national security because of the nature of the information in the E-mails and other documents, pertaining to her job as SoS, sent to and from her private server.
Security on E-mail servers are a full time job, usually employing several or more people. There is no evidence Hillary had anyone making sure her private sever was secure at all times.
If the federal government has problems keeping unauthorized people out of their computers, Small, private, stand alone servers stand no chance.

LiberalFighter

(53,539 posts)
18. You are of course mistaken.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:17 PM
May 2016

She didn't break any laws. And the only records available through FOIA from State are those identified and pertain to State business.

The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) generally provides that any person has the right to request access to federal agency records or information except to the extent the records are protected from disclosure by any of nine exemptions contained in the law or by one of three special law enforcement record exclusions.
The FOIA applies only to federal agencies and does not create a right of access to records held by Congress, the courts, or by state or local government agencies.

-none

(1,884 posts)
21. I retired from OCIO/ITS and I think I know a bit more than you do about this.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:24 PM
May 2016

If it resides on a government computer/server, it is subject to the Freedom of Information Act.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
22. Sounds like you weren't paying attention, and...
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:26 PM
May 2016

Hillary was. She had experts on her staff that OKed deleting the personal emails.

-none

(1,884 posts)
24. What does that have to do with security, beside nothing?
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:35 PM
May 2016

Deleting your personal E-mails that reside on a government computer is one thing. Deleting job related government E-mails is something else entirely.

LiberalFighter

(53,539 posts)
25. FOIA specifies what information is subject to requests.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:45 PM
May 2016

By your logic any personal phone numbers including cell phone numbers that might be on a government computer would also be subject to FOIA. Data that might be available to make it easier to contact employees when they are away from work. Neither are agency or government records. If you were involved in FOIA and released personal data that would call into question your actions.


PHS Freedom of Information Officer. If the records you seek are exclusively records of the Public Health Service or if the records you seek involve more than one health agency of the Public Health Service, including its records in the regions, only the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Health (Communications), who also is the PHS Freedom of Information Officer, may determine whether to release or deny the records, except as follows:

CDC and ATSDR Freedom of Information Officer. If the records you seek are exclusively records of the Centers for Disease Control and/or the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, only the Director, Office of Public Affairs, CDC, who also is the CDC and ATSDR Freedom of Information Officer, may determine whether to release or deny the records.
i. FDA Freedom of Information Officer. If the records you seek are exclusively records of the Food and Drug Administration, only the Associate Commissioner for Public Affairs, FDA, who also is the FDA Freedom of Information Officer, may determine whether to release or deny the records.
ii. NIH Freedom of Information Officer. If the records you seek are exclusively records of the National Institutes of Health, only the Associate Director of Communications, HIH, who also is the NIH Freedom of Information Officer, may determine whether to release or deny the records.
v. HRSA Freedom of Information Officer. If the records you seek are exclusively records of the Health Resources and Services Administration, only the Associate Administrator for Communications, HRSA, who also is the HRSA Freedom of Information Officer, may determine whether to release or deny the records.
ADAMHA Freedom of Information Officer. If the records you seek are exclusively records of the Alcohol, Drug Abuse and Mental Health Administration, only the Associate Administrator for Communications and Public Affairs, ADAMHA, who is also the ADAMHA Freedom of Information Officer, may determine whether to release or deny the records.
i. IHS Freedom of Information Officer. If the records you seek are exclusively records of the Indian Health Service, only the Director of Communications, IHS, who also is the IHS Freedom of Information Officer, may determine whether to release or deny the records.

SSA Freedom of Information Officer. If the records you seek are exclusively records of the Social Security Administration, including its records in the regions, only the Director, Office of Public Inquiries, SSA, who also is the SSA Freedom of Information Officer, may determine whether to release or deny the records.
HCFA Freedom of Information Officer. If the records you seek are exclusively records of the Health Care Financing Administration, including its records in the regions, only the Director, Office of Public Affairs, HCFA, who also is the HCFA Freedom of Information Officer, may determine whether to release or deny the records.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
15. "Chuck Todd: "Convenience" WAS NOT The Reason Hillary Clinton Had A Private Server"
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:57 PM
May 2016

Oh dear, you worked yourself up to the point that you failed to read the first two words of the title. "Chuck Todd:" duh

Response to Segami (Original post)

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
13. But there's no mistaking the fact ...
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:52 PM
May 2016

... that when Chuck Todd - or anyone else - says something anti-HRC, they suddenly become credible journalists who should be listened to.

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
17. I forgot about that.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:01 PM
May 2016

The poor woman has been tossed under there and retreived so many times, I lost track of her current status.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
20. She was essentially selling her services as Secretary of State.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:24 PM
May 2016

Playing a loose sort of pay-for-access game with the Clinton Foundation's coffers as a middle man. She's corrupt and arrogant, and it occasionally makes her look stupid, but she isn't.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
26. Darn. .. this is awful
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:51 PM
May 2016

I just can't find rthe beating a dead horse smiley

Maybe this will do

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