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Fri May 27, 2016, 12:57 PM

The DU Bubble and the Legitimate Leftist Critique of Today's Democratic Party

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Is it any wonder why people laugh off the suggestion that Clinton will have to step down or that Trump (in spite of the general consensus outside of the DU bubble) will kick her ass in November? For the folks who believe either of those things, if you end up being wrong, will you acknowledge as much? Consider the list below:

Back on Super Tuesday, posters (and Cenk from TYT) actually said Sanders had won the day and it marked the beginning of the end of Clinton's campaign. Nearly 3 months later and she's well on her way to winning a clear majority of pledged delegates, as many of us predicted she would be.

On the night of the Indiana primary, DU posters claimed there was no media coverage of Bernie's win, even though there were headlines everywhere.

Thread after thread suggests many are claiming Clinton will reach 2383 via pledged delegates alone, even though nobody can point to a single post in which that claim is made.

And then there's the supposed value of hypothetical general election match-up polls at this juncture (Remember President Dukakis? Remember how Carter beat Reagan? Remember how George HW Bush beat Clinton? Remember how McCain beat Obama? Me neither.).

And then there's this refusal to accept what numerous surveys reveal about who independents are: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512026152

And then there's the false claims about which candidate has done best in the 'reddest' parts of the US.

And then there's the conspiracies surrounding exit poll data (historically untrustworthy for numerous reasons).

And then there are all of the posts suggesting low primary turnout translates to low general election turnout (historically, there's no correlation).

And then there are the suggestions that losing a state in the primary means that person will lose that state in the general, which is so obviously untrue (Are there not states Obama lost in the 2008 primary that he won in the general election?).

And then there are the posts implying Clinton can't win open primaries, even though she's won more open primaries than Sanders has.

And then there are claims that many Clinton supporters are saying it's "her turn," in which case it should be easy to point to numerous posts as evidence, but nobody seems able to do that (gee, I wonder why).

The DU bubble is a fantasy land where preconceived notions and desires trump reality. This hinders the cause, it doesn't help. Yes, there's a valid leftist critique of today's Democratic Party. There's a valid critique of the US political system in general, particularly the influence of Big Banks, Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Oil, etc. But subscribing to and promoting nonsense - denying reality and pushing fantasy - does a disservice to the effort to bring about systemic change, which is not something that will come about as a result of an election (people have to get organized and take action *between* election cycles).

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