Bernie is demanding a recanvass in Kentucky over ONE delegate ...

[salinsky]

... seriously??

They're gonna split the delegate count regardless of what a recount determines.

He's just trolling at this point.

What a jackass move.

http://bigstory.ap.org/042a334061664e0ca202ccfe0a2ffab6

[seabeyond]

1. He doesn't have an issue wasting others money, if it strokes his ego. Nt

[salinsky]

6. I'm losing respect for him by the second at this point ... nt

[merrily]

9. LOL! #HillaryLostMe.

[salinsky]

10. Third party outliers are no loss ... nt

[merrily]

14. Really? Got a link that supports your applying your third party BS to me?

Meanwhile, your trying to sell that you lost respect for Bernie is good for laughs. Thanks. I appreciate it.

[salinsky]

20. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson don't light your fire? ...

... must be a disappointed Rand fan.

[merrily]

25. You not only have no link that supports your applying your third bs to me, but you have more bs.

And not enough grace to apologize.

[salinsky]

33. You want a link and an apology for my low opinion of you?? ...

... no thanks.

[merrily]

38. I pointed out that you provided neither link to support your bs claim about me

nor the grace to apologize, many would do when caught bsing with no support.

I could not possibly care less whether you provide a link or an apology. Your inability or failure to do either says something about you, nothing about me.

But you really do remind me so much of my cousin! More and more every time I see another of your posts.

[RiverNoord]

78. I'm a lifelong Democrat,

have voted exclusively for Democrats since I was of age to vote, am now 45 years old, and I support Sanders.

Do have a low opinion of me as well, based solely on that information?

[TheBlackAdder]

35. Dude, you don't respect him. Why the charade? Also, the person in your avatar leans SBS.

[Renew Deal]

3. It's not a recount

But I agree that it's not worth it.

[salinsky]

8. Recount ... recanvass ... whatever ...

... still a jackass move.

[firebrand80]

4. Has to find ways to get media attention nt

[salinsky]

28. He's waging a PR battle against the DNC and Democratic election officials ...

who have more votes than he'd win even if he won Kentucky and it was winner-take-all.

He wants to sway super delegates by attacking their integrity and causing people to harass them.

This is way beyond silly.

[Jack Bone]

84. the 4000 vote wipe happened when they were reporting...

which is what this canvas should highlight, if it actually happened.

If there were no grounds for suspicion, I doubt that it would be happening.

Last time I checked, Democrats believed in ensuring that the votes are counted.

[frylock]

93. When was the last time you checked?

[sufrommich]

5. It's a publicly stunt from a campaign short on cash.

Courtesy of the Kentucky tax payers.

[Thinkingabout]

7. Par for the course, if he turned his negative attention into positive attention

He would have been a better candidate, screaming and complaining every time he loses says a lot. Hey Bernie, the major of the voters are voting for Hillary, We the people, listen to the voters.

[flor-de-jasmim]

11. Sigh... once again you confuse PROCESS with OUTCOME. It is to ensure good process.

[salinsky]

15. He's certainly at the forefront of a movement that is unafraid ...

of appearing asinine and juvenile in its pursuit of purity.

[flor-de-jasmim]

30. Don't confuse purity with TRANSPARENCY.

[salinsky]

34. This recanvassing will change nothing in the race, but you're right ...

... "purity" was the wrong term.

"Jackassery" is more appropriate.

[lagomorph777]

89. And there we have it. Anybody who wants an accurate vote count is a jackass.

Straight from the Bush campaign. Brilliant.

[frylock]

92. There used to be a time here when people demanded accuracy in vote counting.

You folks are on your own when the irregularities bite your candidate's ass in November.

[brush]

69. He chose a recanvass instead of a recount because he would have to pay for a recount

We're not confused.

The state has to foot the bill for a recanvass — all over 1 delegate.

Wonder how the people of Kentucky feel about that.

[BeyondGeography]

12. It's so he can cry, "RIGGED!!!"

Meantime, he loses a primary in WA where three times as many people showed up than at the caucus which he won 73-27, following a similar result in Nebraska. The system ain't all that bad for Bernie.

[sufrommich]

13. This.nt

[Matt_in_STL]

18. Holy crap!!! His supporters didn't show up to something that was meaningless???

Oh no, that just won't do. That just won't do at all! Someone, please find me some pearls to clutch and walk me over to the fainting couch.

[BeyondGeography]

37. Obama's managed to in 2008

He won the beauty contest by six points. Maybe they were better organized, or more motivated to vote in general, or he was a better candidate, or something.

[Matt_in_STL]

39. Perhaps Sanders supporters had something better to do than show up to a beauty contest

They showed when it meant something while Clinton supporters didn't. I guess they were just better organized in Washington when it actually meant something.

[LisaM]

79. It is a mail in ballot. His supporters didn't need to show up.

The caucus was a different matter. It was held on a holiday weekend and most of the Hillary supporters I know didn't want to be part of the bullying atmosphere.

[lunamagica]

96. Meaningless? At this point, with him wanting SDs to pick him? When he needs MOMENTUM so badly?

You know, the optics here don't look good for him, not good AT ALL

[Matt_in_STL]

97. The goal of the primary is to win delegates, which he already did in Washington

There was no need for him to go back and re-campaign and put forth a GOTV campaign to make sure everyone voted in a primary that had no meaning in the primary. I would be pissed if he had and had wasted money on a beauty contest. Hillary supporters are fond of saying it doesn't matter who shows up at rallies, it matters who shows up to vote when it counts. The caucus counted and Bernie supporters showed up. The primary was meaningless.

[Armstead]

16. A recount! How awful! Bernie is the first politician in HISTORY to ask for a recount...

What a horrible man asking for a procedure that is used in elections with a close vote total.

[sufrommich]

22. Recounts are usually asked for in winner take all elections.

When is the last time you saw a demand for a recount in a primary where delegates are apportioned by number of votes?

[salinsky]

23. They are going to split the delegates regardless of what the recanvassing shows ...

... this is not going to move the football for him.

He's knows this.

He's not a stupid man.

Just a very petty and vindictive one.

[Armstead]

27. I don't give a damn what your opinion of him as a person is

You are clearly just pushing the meme that because he is following through on his promise to run a hard fought campaign throughout the primary he is being petty and vindictive.

But it was fine for Clinton to run a hard fought campaign to the end in 2008.

Whatttteeeevvvvveeerrrrrrr......

[metroins]

41. Clinton at least had a chance in 2008

Bernie lost in March due to incompetent campaign strategy.

[Armstead]

56. That was not the belief at the time

The numbers may be different, but the same pressures and beliefs that she had no chance were accepted at that time.

[oasis]

17. Reporters need to confront him on his petty grandstanding.

[Armstead]

31. It's called politics

People other than Clinton are also allowed to engaged in politics.

You can be danged sure if the situation were reversed, her campaign would be all over every state looking for every way to up her odds -- or at least be able to transform a state from, a loss to a win for influence.

[metroins]

42. There are no odds or influence

Bernie is only wasting other people's money and time at this point.

[tazkcmo]

55. It's his money.

Once you give a person money it's no longer yours, it's theirs.

[brush]

72. No, it's not about Sanders' donation money. The state has to pay for a recanvass . . .

which is why he chose that instead of a recount.

Candidates have to pay for a recount.

This move doesn't reflect well on Sanders — especially since it's only about a 1 delegate swing.

Guess that $27 spigot of donations is running dry.

[B Calm]

19. You sound worried they might uncover more shenanigans!

[salinsky]

24. The recanvassing is not going to uncover anything ...

... it's just going to cost Kentucky taxpayers.

The Bernie campaign and its supporters should be ashamed.

[B Calm]

29. You need a sweat rag.

[bahrbearian]

40. Or two.

[Matt_in_STL]

21. Hillary supporters, circa 2000.

"Just get over it Al Gore, you lost. Quit trying to contest Florida. George Bush was the obvious winner and you are just grandstanding."

Can't wait to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth in November when questionable votes hit home.

[bahrbearian]

44. Hillary Now 2016

[metroins]

45. Gore had a chance

Bernie lost back in March.

It's one thing to fight when it matters, it's another thing to waste time and money on processes that don't matter.

This would change nothing.

[pinebox]

47. It doesn't matter, it's about integrity. Why is this so hard to understand?

[Matt_in_STL]

49. The actual word, "integrity"

It's not a word they are used to hearing.

[pinebox]

54. I suspected as much

[metroins]

52. Because these results don't matter

It's a waste of other people's time and money.

If you're going to spend money and effort, spend it on something that will make a difference.

[Melissa G]

58. Hillary cannot close this without superdelegates

Same as Bernie. Game is still in play and Hillary has Plunging numbers against Trump.

Rather than being a better candidate and honoring her agreement to Debate in CA, she and her campaign just handwring that Bernie won't drop out when he has plenty of support to keep running.

The campaign is still in play and Hillary Runs from a Debate. "You should be willing to Debate Anytime, Anywhere..."
Oh, Except in California 2016!

[metroins]

62. I'm all for debates

Especially real debates, not 1 minute responses for sound bites.

But the race is over.

I will die one day, is an equivocal absolute that Hillary will be the Democratic nominee this season. The Supers are not changing, it is reality.

[Melissa G]

63. I am glad you also are for Debates.

You might suggest it to your candidate.

There is many a slip twixt the cup and the lip.

Your equivocal absolute is imaginary. You will and she might.

[mcar]

46. Link?

Surely you have evidence to prove this "quote?"

[Matt_in_STL]

50. Oh, I am sure if you do a quick Google search it will show up.

#satireimpaired

[disillusioned73]

26. Your OP title is disingenuous.. (at best)

this is straight from the article YOU posted;

"A recanvass is not a recount but a review of the voting totals."

[salinsky]

32. Actually, it wasn't disingenuous, it was a mistake on my part ...

... and, it doesn't make this any less of a jackass move on Bernie's behalf.

I corrected the title.

[Sunlei]

36. Every delegate is important. I'm sure both Clinton & Sanders want fair voter counts?.

If Kentucky and other 'old school' states can't complete the primary counts correctly, they will FUBAR the General Election even worse.

[Surya Gayatri]

43. Another pure publicity stunt to keep himself in the news.

The media is losing interest and he has very little money to pump up his persona with ads.

In your own words:

"WHAT A JACKASS MOVE." But, hardly surprising, given his track record.

[pinebox]

48. It's about integrity.

Why do so many Hillary supporters have a hard time understanding this?

[salinsky]

51. Hillary should say, "Give the crybaby milksop another delegate ...

... and save the Kentucky taxpayers some money."

That would be some righteous integrity.

[pinebox]

53. Oh you want to go with that? OK how about this.

Giving back money to taxpayers who had to pay for closed primaries which they can't vote in.
Want to take an educated guess which has a higher amount?

Sorry but elections MUST have integrity. Period. This is vital.

[frylock]

95. Yes, she should do that.

That would go a long way toward that unity I keep hearing about.

[sufrommich]

57. Why didn't he ask for this the next day

after the election if it's about integrity?

This is a publicity stunt and nothing more.

[frylock]

94. Because it's about integrity.

[Scuba]

59. It's not about one delegate.

It's about election fraud.

[MineralMan]

60. Desperation. That's all it is.

One delegate? If the recanvass indicates it, which it probably won't. One delegate. A waste of Kentucky taxpayer dollars, it seems to me. Sour grapes, too, it seems to me. It doesn't matter, so why bother?

[msanthrope]

61. fundraising. Check the fundraising emails. N t

[hellofromreddit]

64. Anyone can only request a recount if the margin is narrow. That's how it goes.

Soooo, what's your point? Obviously, there's not much need for a recount if the margin is wide. You're effectively arguing that anyone who ever requests a recount is an asshole.

Gore seems like an alright guy.

[salinsky]

74. As I was properly corrected, he's not asking for a recount, he's asking for a ...

... recanvass.

The difference being that he'd have to pay for a recount, and the taxpayers of Kentucky are forced to pay for a recanvass.

This is nothing more than a publicity stunt to allow Bernie to continue to cry foul and bitch about corruption.

Really cynical and petty.

[bvf]

65. What a bastard for attempting to keep things honest

and accurate. How dare he.

Think it's about time for another donation.

[floppyboo]

66. Curious. Is there any rules for automatic recount?

I'm here in Canada, and there is an automatic recount for any election where the results are 1/1000 difference. My math brain is dead this morning. What's 212555 vs 210631? Brain hurts. Argh!

[brentspeak]

67. Funny username for a Hillary supporter.

Did they pick that one out for you or you make it up yourself?

[reddread]

70. isnt it?

Im pretty sure NOT ONE Hillary supporter wants to discuss Saul Alinsky.
such an interesting aspect of who their candidate is, and who she is not.

[hobbit709]

71. It's a feeble attempt at misdirection I think

[salinsky]

77. It's simply a carryover from other political forums on which I participate ...

... I chose it because it drives the freepers crazy.

It's funny that it has the same effect on the bros.

And, Brock didn't even help me pick it.

[Cobalt Violet]

68. cry baby post!

[glowing]

73. I think it has more to do with checking vote integrity, than 1 delegate.

Sander's supporters have been asking him to have ballot checks... Verify the paper trail since AZ... That's when people started noticing the exit polls vs the machine count. Then the audit in IL showed that the machine count varied wildly from the hand count. Instead of flagging that check and adding additional audits or checking an entire district wide paper ballot vote, the board changed the hand count to match the machine and verified the election.

So, take a close count in KY and check the paper trail. Let's just see how "verifiable" the machines really are. And if there has been screwy results, then perhaps those other states were in error as well, as many suspect.

And notice, since people have been making a big stink about exit polls vs machine counts, they have decided there will be no further exit polling conducted in the remaining peimary elections. So, is anyone going to trust the vote from CA? Will anyone trust any of this primary? Many Bernie supporters are being called CT over this issue, but we know that 2000 and 2004 was stollen (2004 being a direct vote flip in OH). And the exit polls this time around have the Republican race matching quite accurately, however, in the same primaries, the Demicratic primary exit and machine vote totals are off? Along with the establishment being against Bernie the entire time, manipulating debates, media ignoring or doing "hit" pieces on Bernie, super delegates lining up behind Hillary before anyone announced, the DNC creating that Hillary PAC deal with 33 states.... It's been really disgusting how "rigged" the Dem Primaries have been for 2016.... All to prop up an unpopular candidate that the public doesn't trust or like, and who is running while under FBI investigation. The audacity to run while under investigation is absolute hubris... And the Democratic Party to hold up such a nominee like this is absolutely devastating to the brand!

[nadinbrzezinski]

75. What is your problem with election integrity?

[salinsky]

80. Stop with the "integrity" BS already ...

... this is a cynical move with zero potential to change anything.

It's nothing more than a publicity stunt that will allow him to continue to cry foul and bitch about corruption.

[nadinbrzezinski]

83. It was not BS in 2000, it is not BS now

you ether in it,I do, or you don't, obviously you do not give a shit. Yes, it is bad, and we had BLACK BOX VOTING in KY by the way.

[polly7]

76. Good for him, I'm glad. But it's just the tip of the rot pile. nt.

[trudyco]

86. Yes.

I get tired of people using the same narratives. Bernie is a sore loser, whiner, big ego, wasting taxpayer money (god that one sounds like a Repuke), he's not even a real Democrat, he shouldn't complain when he's treated shoddily by the DNC because he shouldn't even be in the primary so he should STFU, his supporters are young and don't know how to vote or are too lazy to vote and that's why the vote counts don't match the rallies, are not Democrats, are privileged white people, are fringe, are violent and unpredictable (I suppose that's to scare old people), are youngsters who just want everything for free and there's no such thing as a free lunch (another Repuke meme) etc.

I feel like I got stuck, like Kathleen Bates in American Horror Stories where her detached head had to watch tv, I feel like I got stuck watching fox memes over and over and. over. Here in DU.

I remember Colbert doing an episode where the Fox meme of the day for Obamacare was that the huge paper document was put together with a giant paper clip. Show after show featured Fox personalities moaning over a big paper clip, like obviously that was bad. The paper clip proved Obamacare was a joke.

These Bernie comments feel like the paper clip episode. Ridiculous. Purposely misunderstanding the importance of things or what Bernie and his supporters represent, marginalizing progressives who are part of the Democratic Party, purposely ignoring the negatives of Clinton or the evidence of election fraud... they want to push through their narrative of the day. Over and over and over.

Stupid paper clips.

[polly7]

87. They learned their Brock and DNC daily memes well. And included a double

dose of hate, bigotry and scorn for all those desperately needing change and having to fight through all of this just to be recognized.

Purposeful misunderstanding is putting it kindly, imo.

[One of the 99]

81. He has every right to request a recanvass.

[salinsky]

88. Of course, he has the right, and no one suggested otherwise ...

... he has the right to do a lot of things that will do damage to the party and help no one but Trump.

The question is, should he exercise those rights and to what end?

[One of the 99]

101. How does this damage the party or help Trump?

[Orsino]

82. Until we shine a light on our various primary and caucus processes...

...they won't get any better or more standardized.

I'm not sure standardization is necessarily to be desired, but Sanders is the only reason any attention is being paid this cycle to the vagaries of the system. It makes us all smarter, and I approve.

[Zen Democrat]

85. It's a matter of how many states each candidate won.

Bernie probably won Iowa, Missouri and a few more of the razor thin outcomes. It's time to fight for the "winner" appellation.

[TheSarcastinator]

90. So "U Hafta Fallow Da Rooooolz" only applies when Hillary is winning

Hypocrisy, thy name is Hillarian.

[salinsky]

91. She's still winning ... nt

[TheSarcastinator]

100. You see, this is why an education in the classics is so very important!

Terms like "hubris" and "pyrrhic victory" just aren't widely understood anymore. Hillarians seem particularly ignorant of their import.

[bjo59]

98. Why not just admit that Bernie Sanders gaining an extra delegate isn't the problem

you have with a recanvass in Kentucky but, rather, the potential "horror" of Bernie winning 21 rather than 20 states to Hillary's 23 so far? Of course it won't make a difference to Hillary's significant delegate lead; however, 21 states to 23 states just doesn't sound as good, does it?

[Waiting For Everyman]

99. It's not the delegate, it's what gets revealed in the recount.

Should be interesting. I'm glad he's doing it, as he has a right to do.