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[Waiting For Everyman]

1. You can stop calling us insane right now unless you'd like some alerts.

You already called me "crazy" and I let it go. This is becoming a trend.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512026505

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512026505#post39

[RBInMaine]

7. Right, and the Hillary attacks are nonstop. So go alert THAT. I am calling out the kind of crazy

thinking that surrounds all this silly conspiracy theory stuff because enough is enough. And it is about damn time.

[Waiting For Everyman]

16. Right, doubling down. Got it. nt

[seekthetruth]

36. Sorry RBInMaine

.....MY "ONLY" choice isn't Hillary or Trump..... it's who the fuck I want it to be. Could I ask you to support Trump, who doesn't support immigration? Likewise, how can you demand that I support Hillary when she believes fracking isn't a problem, or when she won't rule out the death penalty, or when she voted for the biggest military blunder - the Iraq war - in history, or when she takes money from the likes of pharmaceutical, oil, and financial corporations?

It's you who's being a petulant child.....or even worse.....short sighted.

Trump or Clinton....the same fucking thing, friend. We'll see more environmental kicking the can down the road, and likely more war. No thanks.

[TheSarcastinator]

2. STOP "gaslighting" Bernie supporters

"Gaslighting" is a traditional tactic of abusers and manipulators: its Team Shillary's favorite new form of dishonesty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

Gaslighting or gas-lighting is a form of mental abuse in which a victim is manipulated into doubting their own memory, perception and sanity.[1][2] Instances may range from the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, up to the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.

[RBInMaine]

8. Stop gaslighting Hillary supporters with nasty comments like "Shillary." What hypocrisy.

[vintx]

14. That's not gaslighting. Words have meanings. If you're confused, consult a dictionary. nt

[seekthetruth]

37. She is a shit.

Now, I do agree that we shouldn't disrespect anyone's decision to support whomever they want, so I won't call you a shill. But, don't claim that I'm somehow electing Trump by supporting Sanders, when I'm faced with two shitty choices.

[Cooley Hurd]

3. The "fair and square" part is in serious question...

[RBInMaine]

9. It's only in question if you are buying into delusional conspiracies that don't exist.

[tom-servo]

31. It's not delusional to recognize...

...that the democratic party leadership has been committing its significant resources promoting and supporting Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders. So, the primary really can't be called "fair" unless you include cronyism in your definition of "fair". The unfairness could easily go beyond that into "corruption", but that is always much harder to prove. However, being hard-to-prove does not equate with could-not-have-happened or insane.

[aikoaiko]

4. I support Bernie continue to campaign, criticizing his opponent, and calling out corruption.

For as long as he wants.

It appears to be you how posts nearly everyday about how unfair it is that Bernie is still campaigning or that his supporters make you unhappy.

I salute your commitment to whining on behalf of HRC.

[leveymg]

5. Like that's going to persuade a lot of people. But I bet it made you feel better.

Bring in the clowns and the Special Agents.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. So we expect more of you calling people insasne

how adult of you, NOT

[RBInMaine]

12. Just as "adult" as the ridiculous nonstop conspiracy theories which are NUTS.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Except that the US elections have real issues

it is not just for Mexico anymore, for example. And the issues are recognizable a stellar unit away, nor did they start this year.

And they are bad enough that this voter has concluded do not ask me who I vote for, but who the central tabulator decided I vote for. And if you think I am rare in this way of thinking you are wrong. It is to the point that local activist have concluded turnout not only has to be high to get a candidate in, any candidate not favored, but to overcome the shenanigan factor.

And this includes other members of the press as well, and we pay way too much attention to this shit. When you have the Registrar deny a 1 percent audit from activists, you know something is up.

You keep telling people you are insane, I will be blunt, it is insane to deny the issues or that elections can and are manipulated regularly. What you forgot 2000, what about 2004? What happened this spring is a preview of coming attractions. You might never wake up, I realize that. But it is happening and if Trump does not win it fair and square to use your shifty language, I will just laughs at you people, Because at this point that is all there there is left.

You either care about election integrity or you don't. It is like pregnant, you cannot be half pregnant. And I frankly do not think you care about election integrity, the totality of it. And that is what is nuts.

[MadBadger]

26. Maybe Bernie stole Michigan, or Oregon.

Oh, look, I came up with a conspiracy theory with no evidence just like that too.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. Yes, let's have all elections audited

I agree.

For the record Oregon is a model for the nation... as far as integrity is concerned.

Also for the record, SOS offices should be non partisan civil service. It would take some of the temptation away. And in a perfect world PARTIES maintain party rolls, not the state.

[Shemp Howard]

10. Is the convention over? Did I miss it?

To use a sports analogy, no team should give up until the game is over.

[Lizzie Poppet]

11. Oh, look: it's THIS thread again!

[azurnoir]

13. Election officials fired in NY, results recalled in MD-yep nothing to see here-move along

it's all your imagine

[snort]

15. Seeing as I'm cray cray,

I'll offer you a nice plate of dog shit and biscuits for breakfast. Bon appetite!

[QC]

18. ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH!!!!!

[Surya Gayatri]

19. Excellent OP. Thanks for posting. K & R.

[Iliyah]

21. Top of the morning to you!

And K & R this thread

[Surya Gayatri]

24. Hiya! And, another kick!

[Skink]

20. 20 so far with 9 to go

She might not even get half.

[silvershadow]

22. Let's talk after we have a nominee. nt

[Fumesucker]

23. Look RB, we all remember that Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California

We understand you would be a lot more comfortable if Biden could parachute into the nomination if Clinton for whatever reason should fail to make it all the way to November..

Que sera, sera, the future's not ours to see...

[Rob H.]

25. Not all the primaries have been held yet

I really wish people would stop pretending otherwise--my state doesn't get to vote 'til June 7.

[lunamagica]

27. Even Jeff Weaver says the process has been a legitimate process

[TheCowsCameHome]

28. Nov. 9th is what counts...

...and who will have a raging hangover that morning.

[AgerolanAmerican]

29. every time I see this sentiment posted here

it reaffirms my belief that Clinton supporters don't believe in democracy at all.

Lots of votes still yet to be cast... and I should note, Sanders has won 12 of the last 14 states, so all the momentum is with him.

[rateyes]

30. Nobody has won or lost. The game is still being played.

[bkkyosemite]

32. ewww a lil touchy this morning ......the Primary is NOT over yet............................

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

33. I always vote. Fortunately, my ballot come with more than 2 choices.

[Jack Bone]

34. No

I can write in a presidential candidate and then continue to vote for democrats down ticket...it might add another 5 mins to my voting experience, but I'll be able to sleep when my head hits the pillow.

you forgot that option

[seekthetruth]

35. Not too sure .....

....if being a petulant child means you'd rather not see likely more war, more fossil fuel - dominated infrastructure, and no action on meaningful healthcare reform.

Sounds like you're the one who's given up.

Hillary or Trump? Same coin but different sides. I'm ready for real change.

[Downwinder]

38. And exaggerator should have dropped out

when he was in 8th place.