2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCNN & MSNBC lobbyists are raising money for Clinton.
By Lee Fang
Oct. 29 2015, 12:51 p.m.
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The top fundraisers for Clinton include lobbyists who serve the parent companies of CNN and MSNBC.
The National Association of Broadcasters, a trade group that represents the television station industry, has lobbyists who are fundraising for both Clinton and Republican candidate Marco Rubio.
Presidential campaigns are obligated by law to send the Federal Election Commission a list of lobbyists who serve as bundlers, collecting hundreds of individual checks on behalf of a candidates campaign.
CNNs parent company, Time Warner, is represented on Capitol Hill by Steve Elmendorf, an adviser to Clinton during her 2008 campaign, who is also known as one of Washingtons top lobbyists. Hes lobbied on a number of issues important for media companies like CNN, including direct-to-consumer advertising policy...
Read more:
https://theintercept.com/2015/10/29/media-fundraisers-presidential/
YouDig
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(11,641 posts)Of me presenting this information is a half truth since you are adamant that this information is a smear.
YouDig
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(11,641 posts)For Hillary.
You're the one making a claim that this is somehow a half truth. Is it wrong to let people know the major news outlets have their lobbyists raising money for Hillary? Should that be kept secret form the public?
Now please show me where I have made any kind of half truth. I've answered your question 3 times. You're refused to back you claim repeatedly.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)The half-truths didn't work last time, and won't work this time either. You lost, and Hillary won.
These are individuals contributing to whoever they want on their own volition, not at the behest of any company. That would be illegal, and the only person in this race with hundreds of pages of fundraising violations is Bernie.
think
(11,641 posts)Now quit being a condescending jerk and show me where the half truth is in my posting of these facts.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)These people are individuals, they are not fundraising on behalf of any company. That would be against the law, and only Bernie has hundreds of pages of FEC violations, not Hillary. If you're upset about illegal fundraising, take it up with Bernie the illegal fundraiser.
think
(11,641 posts)They are indeed raising money for Clinton. Those are facts.
That is in no way a lie. Sorry you hate the truth.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)Raising money on behalf of a corporation is against the law.
think
(11,641 posts)YouDig
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(11,641 posts)There is nothing dishonest about telling the truth.
These people are lobbyists for these news organizations. They are raising money for Hillary. How is letting people know this a lie?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)But if you're accusing anyone raising money for Hillary of doing so at the behest of a corporation, you're simply lying. That's illegal, and it didn't happen.
think
(11,641 posts)Good luck with that....
YouDig
(2,280 posts)These people are individuals, donating their own money and their own time to whoever they want. They're not getting paid by any corporation to fundraise, that's illegal.
I see you keep ignoring the hundreds of pages of Bernie FEC violations. I wonder why? Maybe I've been too subtle. Let's try this.
BERNIE, AND ONLY BERNIE, HAS HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF FEC VIOLATIONS. DO YOU CARE TO COMMENT ON THAT?
think
(11,641 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Elmadorf has a firm that shapes policy and public opinion for clients such as Time Warner.
Do you think he wants to see Clinton elected because he wants to protect Net Neutrality, or prevent monopolistic mergers such as the one that Time Warner and Comast tried to pull off?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)of FEC violations. Any individual is allowed to donate to campaigns, even if you don't like their job.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)And according to the FEC, some of them hate their money so much they are throwing it away illegally.
casperthegm
(643 posts)Hillary supporters didn't care then and don't care now. So, you're right about that. Bias appears to be fine with them, so long as it's in their favor. But Bernie supporters do care then and still care. Why? Because it's simply unfair and leads to bias in the media.
Can the media bias be proven? (other than the ratio of coverage given to the candidates, the inclusion of super delegates in the vote totals, or the claims of violence by Sanders supporters in NV, when in fact there was blatant fraud, etc) Nope. Not any more than we can prove that Hillary's speeches for hundreds of thousand to Wall Street will lead her to give them any breaks. Or that her use of funds via Citizens United will lead her to give the corporations and special interests behind that money and special favors. But then again, if she says she wants to end Citizens because it's a form of legal bribery...guess only she is above that, right?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)You don't really believe the conspiracy theory that the media is conspiring against Bernie?
casperthegm
(643 posts)I suspect that you've made up your mind, just as I've made up mine. I've cited a few specific examples already regarding media bias. In the end it won't matter to Hillary supporters. What should concern them is that Bernie supporters are aware of a bias in the media and from the DNC. If you'd like me to cite more examples let me know, though I don't imagine any amount of examples would change your mind.
cali
(114,904 posts)in a 24 period isn't an indication of bias. Of course, there's bias. Bias is not synonymous with conspiracy theory.
This isn't exactly shocking news.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Lame. Critical thinking skills would help you.
cali
(114,904 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)Or for fact-checking!
Perogie
(687 posts)Guess we can forget about learning history because you think old facts should be forgotten.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)TrueDemVA
(250 posts)Is one of the reasons I continue to not get cable again. I stream everything. These news CORPORATIONS are scum.
think
(11,641 posts)When their main concern is profits and controlling the narrative...
TrueDemVA
(250 posts)They are headed towards a revolt. So many are leaving the party after this primary, b/c the party leadership as sold us out.
think
(11,641 posts)They will fight tooth and nail to keep their control of it...
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)friendly candidate.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Must be a slow day at the outrage factory.
think
(11,641 posts)Hillary. I'm sure most average voters have no idea this is happening.
Sorry it bothers you to let people know this....
merrily
(45,251 posts)MSNBC has been acting as her propaganda arm. I don't watch CNN much.
think
(11,641 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)I knew the owners had a general interest in her as the corporate candidate, and they had donated heavily. I wasn't aware they were bundling.
That's just disgusting.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Do you really think the reps of the Media Monopolies are supporting Clinton because they want to preserve Net Neutrality, or stop future mergers like the horrible one attempted by Time Warner and Comast?
(Fortunately the Obama administration blocked that due to intense public pressure. But what will happen in the future if a candidate backed by those corporations gets into the WH, and goes along with the advice of her backers?
This stuff DOES matter.