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Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:19 PM May 2016

Bernie should NOT drop out.

I know that people who are now calling for Bernie to drop out don't mean it this way, but it's actually insulting to the voters who are yet to vote. And it's insulting to the Bernie voters who have already voted.

Hillary does not have a majority of pledged delegates, yet. She probably will have that majority, and soon, but not yet.

Suppose you are the coach of a scrappy underdog football team. Your team has worked hard, and has made it to the semi-finals. Win this game, and you're off to the state finals. It's now the 4th quarter in that semi-final game. Two minutes to go, and you are down by 14 points. Your scrappy team still has a chance, albeit a small one. And the team wants to go for it. No one is heading for the locker rooms.

The opposing coach trots over to you, and asks you to concede now, for the good of the league, or for some such reason. Would you concede?

I would hope not. And an election is far more important than any football game.

Bernie should NOT drop out. (Original Post) Shemp Howard May 2016 OP
Thank you good analogy NV Whino May 2016 #1
relax - he won't. Why should he anyway - he's winning!! dana_b May 2016 #2
Hell no! Cause the Corporocrats as much discomfort as possible! [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #3
Bernie is a long distance runner....he gets that. You must finish, even if you change your course. ViseGrip May 2016 #4
K&R Ferd Berfel May 2016 #5
Agree 100%. All the way to the convention!! jack_krass May 2016 #6
The whole system of non-concurrent primaries means that some states will always be irrelevant anotherproletariat May 2016 #7
Hillary should drop out RobertEarl May 2016 #9
Good analagy felix_numinous May 2016 #8


(11,546 posts)
2. relax - he won't. Why should he anyway - he's winning!!
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:37 PM
May 2016

He tied her in KY, won Oregon and he will more than likely beat her in California.

He said that he wiould take it to the convention and I believehim 100%.
People have been saying this crap for months now. IGNORE them! They evidently have hearing problems or don't trust that he will keep his word. Unlike their candidate, he DOES keep his word.



(3,133 posts)
4. Bernie is a long distance runner....he gets that. You must finish, even if you change your course.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

Green Party is sounding real good right now, and I'm wondering what Jill Stein offered him. He owes DWS nothing.

Why didn't DWS just say no to Bernie? Instead of doing every ugly thing under the sun, to stop him? It would have been far less damaging to tell him no, and just say because you're an independent.

But no......she told him yes. Bernie signed up in good faith.
How evil these party leaders can be.....and damaging to their choice of a nominee. And they try to blame Bernie.....laughable.



(1,446 posts)
7. The whole system of non-concurrent primaries means that some states will always be irrelevant
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:47 PM
May 2016

as far as their primary vote is concerned. Honestly, the remaining states pretty much are irrelevant now. Hillary needs less than 100 delegates in all the remaining races to win the nomination. (Yes, super delegates do count...it's how the system currently works.)
That means if she gets just 25% of the vote in CA, and not a single other vote in ANY of the other June 7th states (or D.C. on the 14th), she would still get the nomination.

The reality of the June 7th primaries is much more in optics than any decisive factor. And even those optics will only last a few days. (Remember the humiliation when Obama lost CA in 2008? Yeah, I don't either...)

More importantly that a largely irrelevant election is the rapidly increasing divide in the party. That should really be the primary target of all the energy of the party in the next few weeks. If that means putting pressure on Sanders (who has said he will use personal attacks against "Mrs. Clinton&quot to drop, that seems reasonable.



(13,685 posts)
9. Hillary should drop out
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:00 PM
May 2016

She is destroying the party. About to be indicted and on a losing streak with high unfavorables and her supporters lying and smearing everyone, she can't win dogcatcher.

Obama beat her in 2008 and he will probably vote for Bernie this time because he knows she is not the best choice.


(5,198 posts)
8. Good analagy
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:55 PM
May 2016

Plus this might be our last chance to clear up election fraud and gain a voice, if we draw the line now. Once these people get in under TTIP and the new laws that cement corporate rule, it WILL be 10000X more difficult for people to be heard. We don't want to go down that path.

We have to keep pushing through, the distortion field is so thick we may not know our true success until the whole house of cards collapses.

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