2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumElection fraud in MA,IL,NY,DE,MD,AZ,NV & now KY make Hillary an illegitimate nominee
Nothing more.
Stopping her at the convention is no longer about 'sour grapes'. Cheaters are not legitimate. Remember Bush? They threw eggs at his inauguration limo! He had to get back in the limo, and could not do the walk. The bleachers were half empty. It was a sad affair.
There is nothing inspiring about Hillary's campaign. She breeds anger with her arrogance and disrespect for our rule of law. This really pisses attorneys off!
Editing to add the links, as Hillary's supporters say this is a bullshit OP. So here are the facts....the opinion part, is that I believe she is no longer a legitimate nominee.
Links:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/maryland-decertifies-baltimore-election-results-investigates-irregularities/2016/05/12/fca6e128-1861-11e6-9e16-2e5a123aac62_story.html
and....
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/13/chicago-election-official-admits-numbers-didnt-match-hillary-clinton-vs-bernie-sanders-election-fraud-allegations/
She is no longer a legitimate nominee with all the found, documented fraud.
And now Kentucky really shows what the hell is going on, certainly after Grimes said her job 'was to make sure Hillary wins'. Her staff doesn't even know what the function of that office is! I found this out first hand when I called Grimes office after the botched election in Kentucky. Due to her comments, I believe she should recuse herself from any recounting/re-scanning.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511994671
GO BERNIE!
Winners don't quit....and quitters don't win.
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
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Gothmog
(154,935 posts)The claims in the OP are simply false http://www.thenation.com/article/the-conspiracy-theory-that-the-clinton-campaign-stole-votes-makes-no-sense/
Obviously, if campaign operatives were caught rigging a primary or caucus, their candidate would face a media shit-storm, their political careers would be over, and they might well end up in prison. So lets set aside the specifics for a moment and consider whether theres a coherent motive for these crimes that would be worth the risk.
Put yourself in the shoes of a vicious Clinton operative with loose ethics and a desire to win at all costs. Why would such a person bother rigging the vote in Wyoming, the state with the fewest delegates up for grabs? Thats a significant risk and a lot of trouble to go through to turn what might have been an 8-6 or perhaps 9-5 delegate split into a 7-7 outcome.
he same problem holds more generally. While Sanders has run an excellent campaign and exceeded all expectations, at no point during the Democratic primaries has he been on track to win. Sanders has held a lead in a handful of national polls, but at no time in the past year has his support broken 42 percent in FiveThirtyEights weighted polling average. And at no point in the race has Clinton held a lead narrower than 9.7 percentage points in that average. Why would any campaign, no matter how unprincipled, fix a race that its been winning from the start?
Of course, we dont have a national primary, and Sanders has only gained supportand eaten into Clintonsover time. But looking back at the calendar, there hasnt been a time when the Clinton campaign would have had a rational incentive to start rigging the contests.
reddread
(6,896 posts)LonePirate
(13,907 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)that seems a fair assessment.
as opposed to buzz words and vacuous dismissiveness
LonePirate
(13,907 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)sounds like you acknowledge them yourself.
based on evidence I presume.
plenty of documented problems.
thanks for the exercise.
toddwv
(2,830 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)One can forgive eyebrows raised in suspicion
Gothmog
(154,935 posts)Sanders never had a realistic chance of being the nominee. Sanders only did well in mainly white states with few POC voters. Sanders never had a significant appeal to key demographic groups in the base of the Democratic Party which is why he was never competitive
apcalc
(4,518 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)when you move into a new neighborhood.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)dchill
(40,577 posts)Exit polls are real.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Win at any costs it the Clinton way
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)at being such a poor loser. I can only speak to my state - a state Hillary would have won by even more if those 100,000+ Brooklyn voters weren't purged. Sour grapes indeed.
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)When is this garbage going to stop????
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Native
(6,660 posts)obamanut2012
(27,839 posts)Native
(6,660 posts)Dang. I'll have to look into that forum again.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)What the fuck is happening here?
Renew Deal
(82,938 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)as long as the Presumptuous Nominee, HRM HRC, gets the party's tiara!
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)no matter how embarrassing it makes them look.
artyteacher
(598 posts)Conspiracy nonsense months ago. She was so right.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)We're entering unhinged territory.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Progressive dog
(7,245 posts)that makes no sense. It's like Bernie blaming the DNC for treating him as any other Democrat.
The Democratic voters have spoken, the revolution has been cancelled.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)We often pretend that what sticks longest to the wall before finally sagging down to the linoleum is objective, allowing our bias to imagine fecal matter is both righteous and true.
Hilary wins only fraudulent elections. Sanders wins are dramatic, pure and without sin.
Every. Single. Time.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,789 posts)... a little better than that OTHER illegitimate nominee.
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)acknowledge when it was been used to suppress Clinton votes and turnout.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Buh bye Hillary!
Tarc
(10,575 posts)oasis
(51,722 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)this time, not going to shut up and enable fraud.
barrow-wight
(744 posts)Get over it. He got fewer votes. A whole bunch of people didn't believe he as Jesus. It happens.