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Thu May 19, 2016, 08:54 AM

 

Election fraud in MA,IL,NY,DE,MD,AZ,NV & now KY make Hillary an illegitimate nominee

Nothing more.

Stopping her at the convention is no longer about 'sour grapes'. Cheaters are not legitimate. Remember Bush? They threw eggs at his inauguration limo! He had to get back in the limo, and could not do the walk. The bleachers were half empty. It was a sad affair.

There is nothing inspiring about Hillary's campaign. She breeds anger with her arrogance and disrespect for our rule of law. This really pisses attorneys off!

Editing to add the links, as Hillary's supporters say this is a bullshit OP. So here are the facts....the opinion part, is that I believe she is no longer a legitimate nominee.

Links:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/maryland-decertifies-baltimore-election-results-investigates-irregularities/2016/05/12/fca6e128-1861-11e6-9e16-2e5a123aac62_story.html

and....
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/13/chicago-election-official-admits-numbers-didnt-match-hillary-clinton-vs-bernie-sanders-election-fraud-allegations/

She is no longer a legitimate nominee with all the found, documented fraud.

And now Kentucky really shows what the hell is going on, certainly after Grimes said her job 'was to make sure Hillary wins'. Her staff doesn't even know what the function of that office is! I found this out first hand when I called Grimes office after the botched election in Kentucky. Due to her comments, I believe she should recuse herself from any recounting/re-scanning.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511994671

GO BERNIE!

Winners don't quit....and quitters don't win.


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Reply Election fraud in MA,IL,NY,DE,MD,AZ,NV & now KY make Hillary an illegitimate nominee (Original post)
ViseGrip May 2016 OP
Gomez163 May 2016 #1
Gothmog May 2016 #2
reddread May 2016 #9
LonePirate May 2016 #19
reddread May 2016 #31
LonePirate May 2016 #32
reddread May 2016 #34
toddwv May 2016 #35
Scootaloo May 2016 #27
Gothmog May 2016 #40
apcalc May 2016 #3
sharp_stick May 2016 #4
book_worm May 2016 #5
dchill May 2016 #17
CrowCityDem May 2016 #6
Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #7
leftynyc May 2016 #8
RockaFowler May 2016 #10
SFnomad May 2016 #14
Native May 2016 #23
obamanut2012 May 2016 #25
Native May 2016 #33
Recursion May 2016 #11
Renew Deal May 2016 #12
lagomorph777 May 2016 #22
SFnomad May 2016 #13
artyteacher May 2016 #15
redstateblues May 2016 #16
Godhumor May 2016 #18
Recursion May 2016 #21
ViseGrip May 2016 #30
Progressive dog May 2016 #20
Agschmid May 2016 #24
LanternWaste May 2016 #26
JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #28
MariaThinks May 2016 #29
ViseGrip May 2016 #39
Tarc May 2016 #36
oasis May 2016 #37
felix_numinous May 2016 #38
barrow-wight May 2016 #41

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:58 AM

2. The Conspiracy Theory That the Clinton Campaign Stole Votes Makes No Sense

The claims in the OP are simply false http://www.thenation.com/article/the-conspiracy-theory-that-the-clinton-campaign-stole-votes-makes-no-sense/

It’s a conspiracy theory, and conspiracy theories tend to fall apart under the weight of their own internal illogic. Consider the 9/11 attacks: If they were a “false flag” operation pulled off by a cabal of extremists within the Bush administration in order to create a casus belli for the invasion of Iraq, why wouldn’t they make the attackers evil Iraqi intelligence officers rather than citizens of Saudi Arabia? And if they really felt the need to bring down the World Trade Center, why bother shooting a missile at the Pentagon? Why crash an airplane into a field in the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania? Even judged on its own terms, the theory makes no sense.

Obviously, if campaign operatives were caught rigging a primary or caucus, their candidate would face a media shit-storm, their political careers would be over, and they might well end up in prison. So let’s set aside the specifics for a moment and consider whether there’s a coherent motive for these crimes that would be worth the risk.

Put yourself in the shoes of a vicious Clinton operative with loose ethics and a desire to win at all costs. Why would such a person bother rigging the vote in Wyoming, the state with the fewest delegates up for grabs? That’s a significant risk and a lot of trouble to go through to turn what might have been an 8-6 or perhaps 9-5 delegate split into a 7-7 outcome.

he same problem holds more generally. While Sanders has run an excellent campaign and exceeded all expectations, at no point during the Democratic primaries has he been on track to win. Sanders has held a lead in a handful of national polls, but at no time in the past year has his support broken 42 percent in FiveThirtyEight’s weighted polling average. And at no point in the race has Clinton held a lead narrower than 9.7 percentage points in that average. Why would any campaign, no matter how unprincipled, fix a race that it’s been winning from the start?

Of course, we don’t have a national primary, and Sanders has only gained support—and eaten into Clinton’s—over time. But looking back at the calendar, there hasn’t been a time when the Clinton campaign would have had a rational incentive to start rigging the contests.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #2)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:01 AM

9. suppression, reregistering voters in the wrong party, lying, lying, lying

 

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Response to reddread (Reply #9)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:21 AM

19. None of which have been traced back to Clinton but conspiracy theories thrive on evidence vacuums.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #19)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:24 AM

31. in other words, yes but its ok she didnt do it herself

 

that seems a fair assessment.
as opposed to buzz words and vacuous dismissiveness

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Response to reddread (Reply #31)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:28 AM

32. You can believe whatever you want, even if there are no facts or evidence to back you up.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #32)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:44 AM

34. "none of which"

 

sounds like you acknowledge them yourself.
based on evidence I presume.
plenty of documented problems.
thanks for the exercise.

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Response to reddread (Reply #34)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:58 AM

35. Haven't most, if not all, of the problems traced back to state or county-wide issues?

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #2)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:53 AM

27. Well, given that Clinton supporters keep excusing Bush' Florida election fraud by blaming hte left..

 

One can forgive eyebrows raised in suspicion

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #27)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:56 PM

40. Gore won Florida-Sanders never was really in competition to be the nominee

Sanders never had a realistic chance of being the nominee. Sanders only did well in mainly white states with few POC voters. Sanders never had a significant appeal to key demographic groups in the base of the Democratic Party which is why he was never competitive

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:58 AM

3. Ridiculous

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:59 AM

4. I imagine tinfoil prices spike

when you move into a new neighborhood.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:00 AM

5. Sore losers always say this

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Response to book_worm (Reply #5)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:10 AM

17. Cheaters always say THAT.

Exit polls are real.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:00 AM

6. The only legitimate election is one Bernie wins, eh?

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:00 AM

7. The DNC bias alone calls the legitimacy into question.

Win at any costs it the Clinton way

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:01 AM

8. You should be embarrassed

 

at being such a poor loser. I can only speak to my state - a state Hillary would have won by even more if those 100,000+ Brooklyn voters weren't purged. Sour grapes indeed.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:02 AM

10. Shouldn't this be in the Conspiracy Theory Forum??

When is this garbage going to stop????

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Response to RockaFowler (Reply #10)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:05 AM

14. +1 n/t

 

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Response to RockaFowler (Reply #10)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:37 AM

23. OMG - WE SO NEED A CONSPIRACY THEORY FORUM. I BOW TO YOU!!!

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Response to Native (Reply #23)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:44 AM

25. du has one

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #25)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:42 AM

33. That's right! I totally forgot - haven't visited that forum since my 1st year on DU in '02

Dang. I'll have to look into that forum again.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:02 AM

11. You guys are out of your goddamn minds

What the fuck is happening here?

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:03 AM

12. Emphasis on NOMINEE

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #12)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:32 AM

22. Right! The General Election doesn't matter

as long as the Presumptuous Nominee, HRM HRC, gets the party's tiara!

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:04 AM

13. When someone is losing, they'll desperatly grab at any straw they can

 

no matter how embarrassing it makes them look.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:08 AM

15. my friend predicted this....

Conspiracy nonsense months ago. She was so right.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:08 AM

16. What a bunch of whiners, sore losers and crybabies you Bernie or Busters are

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:12 AM

18. And this is why Bernie needs to release his delegates before the convention

We're entering unhinged territory.

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Response to Godhumor (Reply #18)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:29 AM

21. Seriously. This is approaching chtemtrails levels of crazy (nt)

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Response to Recursion (Reply #21)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:11 AM

30. Really? I thought people here actually followed elections and the electronic shenanigans.

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:26 AM

20. With or without links

that makes no sense. It's like Bernie blaming the DNC for treating him as any other Democrat.
The Democratic voters have spoken, the revolution has been cancelled.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:38 AM

24. ... Here we go, buckle up y'all.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:50 AM

26. We often pretend that what sticks longest to the wall is objective...

We often pretend that what sticks longest to the wall before finally sagging down to the linoleum is objective, allowing our bias to imagine fecal matter is both righteous and true.

Hilary wins only fraudulent elections. Sanders wins are dramatic, pure and without sin.

Every. Single. Time.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:54 AM

28. Yeah, maybe, but she's OUR illegitimate nominee ...

... a little better than that OTHER illegitimate nominee.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 09:57 AM

29. bernie is an illegitimate candidate because he whines about electoral fraud but doesn't

acknowledge when it was been used to suppress Clinton votes and turnout.

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Response to MariaThinks (Reply #29)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:47 PM

39. ha ha..illegitimate is when you can't run for public office due to past crimes in office.

 

Buh bye Hillary!

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 11:00 AM

36. Still waiting for Sanders legal team to challenge any of these state's results...


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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 11:01 AM

37. NO SALE

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:45 PM

38. We are not going away

this time, not going to shut up and enable fraud.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 02:03 PM

41. Your candidate lost.

Get over it. He got fewer votes. A whole bunch of people didn't believe he as Jesus. It happens.

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