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Wed May 18, 2016, 10:14 PM

So, Sen Barbara Boxer: Which is more worrisome? Shots actually fired on a HQ's, or 100 vocal people?

And one must also ponder, why wouldn't activists for Bernie be vocal, when the rules of the Nevada Caucus were deliberately ignored?

I for one was extremely pleased to see that Sen Sanders firmly stood his ground and made the following statement:
[h2]
"It is imperative that the Democratic leadership, both nationally and in the states, understand
that the political world is changing and that millions of Americans are outraged at
establishment politics and establishment economics. The people of this country want a
government which represents all of us, not just the 1 percent, super PACs and wealthy
campaign contributors.

"The Democratic Party has a choice. It can open its doors and welcome into the party
people who are prepared to fight for real economic and social change people who are
willing to take on Wall Street, corporate greed and a fossil fuel industry which is destroying
this planet. Or the party can choose to maintain its status quo structure, remain dependent
on big-money campaign contributions and be a party with limited participation and limited
energy.

"Within the last few days there have been a number of criticisms made against my campaign
organization. Party leaders in Nevada, for example, claim that the Sanders campaign has a
'penchant for violence.' That is nonsense. Our campaign has held giant rallies all across this
country, including in high-crime areas, and there have been zero reports of violence. Our
campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn
any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals. But, when we
speak of violence, I should add here that months ago, during the Nevada campaign, shots
were fired into my campaign office in Nevada and apartment housing complex my campaign
staff lived in was broken into and ransacked.
" [/h2]

But obviously, those supporting the Oligarchy feel differently. Here are quotes off the CNN
recent article:

"He should get things under control," Boxer said of Sanders, saying it was worse than the
vitriol during the Bush-Gore 2000 recount. "We're in a race that is very critical. We have to
be united. He knows that. I have in fact, called him a couple times, left a couple messages.
I'm hopeful he can get control of this."

Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said "I do" when asked if Sanders should drop out of the
race after voting concludes on June 7, giving Clinton a chance to "pivot" to the general
election ahead of the July convention. "I think it would be most regretful if there becomes a schism," Feinstein said. "That's what Donald Trump should want: a schism in our party. ... It's the responsibility particularly of Sen. Sanders to see that that doesn't happen."

On Tuesday, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said he had a "long conversation" with
Sanders to lay out what happened in Nevada.
"He said that he condemns that. I'm confident he does," Reid told reporters. "This is a test of
leadership."


However it is noteworthy that there is extreme irony in Sen Feinstein speaking of responsibility. Feinstein is the US Senator who had an aide re-write the entire US Senate Code of Ethics, which then allowed her such mis-uses of power that she not only secured lucrative governmental contracts involving reconstruction in Iraq for her husband Richard Blum's construction business, it seems very likely that she told Blum secrets she had gleaned while being on various top intelligence committees in the US Senate! Although the panels and members of such committees are often not allowed to divulge state secrets, that hardly mattered to Diane "The Lucrative" Feinstein.

It follows that a Senator that acted in the way Feisntein has acted would not at all mind Ms Clinton's private email server mess. So at least no one can accuse Feinstein of hypocrisy!

It should also be noted that while the uber believers and loyalists to Clinton are totally upset about the chair being overturned and the voices raised in Nevada, they don't at all seem to mind that Hillary's right hand campaign man, Brock, offered up the monies to get one of his subordinates to plant child pornography on Facebook pages run by Sanders Supporters. For those of you too enthused about Clinton to think straight, planting child porn on any site for any reason is a felony!

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Reply So, Sen Barbara Boxer: Which is more worrisome? Shots actually fired on a HQ's, or 100 vocal people? (Original post)
truedelphi May 2016 OP
grasswire May 2016 #1
dflprincess May 2016 #2
truedelphi May 2016 #13
HooptieWagon May 2016 #3
hrmjustin May 2016 #4
truedelphi May 2016 #7
hrmjustin May 2016 #9
truedelphi May 2016 #11
hrmjustin May 2016 #12
JoePhilly May 2016 #5
truedelphi May 2016 #10
Thinkingabout May 2016 #6
truedelphi May 2016 #14
Thinkingabout May 2016 #15
truedelphi May 2016 #16
Dem2 May 2016 #8

Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:15 PM

1. but the people cursed and were rude! nt

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:17 PM

2. "..worse than the vitriol during the Bush-Gore 2000 recount"

And who was behind a lot of that???

Could it be our old pal David Brock? And who is David Brock working for this year?

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #2)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:54 PM

13. I didn't remember that about Brock.

But I guess I should have realized it!

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:18 PM

3. The elitists fear the people....

 

...will wake up and figure out who's screwing them. That's why they live in gated communities.

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:18 PM

4. Senator Boxer is a great senator and what was done to her was disgraceful.

 

She deserves no scorn.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #4)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:42 PM

7. The Middle Class was once a great and admirable body of people.

We also deserved no scorn, but we are beset on all sides by those of the One Percent who have nothing but scorn for us. Although they do tend to have absolutely lovely manners.

Why shouldn't they have lovely manners? We have seen such such a huge transfer of wealth from the Main Street shops to the coffers of the One Percent. That transfer involved a coup d'etat of the entire election process. That transfer at first rivalled and then surpassed the transfer of wealth from the merchant class in France to the nobility. Many of those who are now among the 42% of all America's registered voters who have distaste for BOTH PARTIES, know that the transfer when tallied correctly amounts to $ 222,000 per man, woman and and child.

We are arrested for various sundry charges, which may or may not exist in reality. The police ignore state laws if the local cheats and hoodwinkers in County government are bail bondsmen. Someone in Calif is arrested every 39 minutes for the crime of using marijuana. Sen Boxer is now in cahoots with the Big Pharmaceutical companies, as otherwise her voice, which used to be raised loudly and strongly for righteous causes, has remained silent on the issue of people in Calif being arrested and put in jail for pot.

We are told the way to change things is through the "democratic election process" but are thwarted at every turn. For instance, Sanders did not win his own home turf on the East Coast because a voter purge of 100,000 Democratic voters' names left him unable to receive those votes.

You might go on the internets and try and look at all the various voting atrocities that have already occurred. Here is a link to a post that although removed by jury decision lists various "hassles" and subterfuges utilized by the opposition to hurt the Sanders Campaign. You can unhide the post, as I just did to read it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280159939

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Response to truedelphi (Reply #7)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:46 PM

9. Senator Boxer is a great senator no matter what you say.

 

Bye!

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #9)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:50 PM

11. I asked a question. A simple question.

I voted for Boxer, and would do so again.

If I condemned anyone in my OP it was Feinstein.

Of course her voting for Iraq War Resolution and thmn making tens of millions of dollars on said war, that might sit well with you, but it has put me in attack mode all day long ever since she did it.

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Response to truedelphi (Reply #11)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:53 PM

12. And I made a simple statement.

 

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:19 PM

5. Attacking a popular CA dem is a BRILLIANT strategy right before the CA primary!!!

Run with it.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #5)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:48 PM

10. AN attack? A person asks a civil question and it is labeled as an attack?

Really? Get over yourself!

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:19 PM

6. As pointed out in other posts, there isnt any proof the mob at the Nevada convention was Sanders

supporters, well they had Sanders signs and they were booing Boxer, good sign they may be Sanders supporters. Where is your proof the shots fired at Sanders headquarters was from Hillary supporters, may be from someone who does not like socialists.

Threatening someone life and the lives of their family members is probably not desirable by the Sanders family to happen to them. If the mob was under the influence, then say they were, used poor judgement and condemn their actions. Saying the problem is the DNC is wrong.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #6)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:56 PM

14. Straw man argument.

Look it up by googling "fallacies of logic"

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Response to truedelphi (Reply #14)

Thu May 19, 2016, 02:42 AM

15. Yes, strawman arguments.

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Response to truedelphi (Reply #14)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:42 PM

16. I'll let Thomas Jefferson have the last word for now:

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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Response to truedelphi (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:44 PM

8. Kitty likes kitty treats

This topic is beat to death, all I can think of is

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