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Wed May 18, 2016, 09:27 PM

Fox news had Clinton winning Penn by only 2 pts

Around 3-4 days before those 5 states voted in those closed primary, I checked out 538. I had to look a couple of times because I thought it was a typo. Fox news had Clinton up by only 2 points in Penn, MD, CA, and CT. It was 2 points nationally but while all the other polls had here way up there in the numbers in the other states Fox only had her up by 2 in all the states.

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Reply Fox news had Clinton winning Penn by only 2 pts (Original post)
DLCWIdem May 2016 OP
niyad May 2016 #1
still_one May 2016 #4
niyad May 2016 #5
still_one May 2016 #7
niyad May 2016 #8
PJMcK May 2016 #26
BlueNoMatterWho May 2016 #2
anotherproletariat May 2016 #3
still_one May 2016 #6
DLCWIdem May 2016 #9
still_one May 2016 #10
DLCWIdem May 2016 #11
still_one May 2016 #12
ram2008 May 2016 #13
DLCWIdem May 2016 #14
ram2008 May 2016 #15
DLCWIdem May 2016 #16
ram2008 May 2016 #17
DLCWIdem May 2016 #18
ram2008 May 2016 #19
DLCWIdem May 2016 #20
ram2008 May 2016 #21
DLCWIdem May 2016 #23
DLCWIdem May 2016 #24
DLCWIdem May 2016 #22
ram2008 May 2016 #25
DLCWIdem May 2016 #27

Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:29 PM

1. we are quoting faux snooze now? really?????

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:33 PM

4. I think the OP is trying to counter the posts going around quoting a Fox

national poll saying trump leads Hillary slightly.

The fact is, National polls mean very little since states determine the electoral votes

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Response to still_one (Reply #4)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:36 PM

5. that is possible. I am astounded at all the faux snooze threads on this site.

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Response to niyad (Reply #5)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:41 PM

7. That bothers me also, and it isn't just faux threads, it is a fair number of links

from R/W sites, which is pretty bad for a Democratic site


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Response to still_one (Reply #7)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:42 PM

8. I know, and it is getting steadily worse.

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Response to still_one (Reply #7)

Fri May 20, 2016, 11:06 AM

26. Don't entirely agree

While it's true that many news outlets favor the Republicans such as Fox News, Breitbart and The Drudge Report. But there are many reputable news sites that represent the conservative point of view. Two examples are The National Review and The Wall Street Journal. In no way am I endorsing the right wing's point of view but it's possible to trap yourself in a left-wing bubble if you don't read a broad range of perspectives.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:33 PM

2. Faux Poll

 

That shitty news organization actually puts out highly rated and accurate polls according to FiveThirtyEight. Who knew?

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:33 PM

3. Even if correct, she only needs about 40% to still win in delegates. nt

 

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:39 PM

6. Hillary winning 55 to 43in Penn, is a pretty off poll. The National Poll from fox

being spewed right now means very little. Not because it is fox, but because it is a national poll, and that is not how the general election is run

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Response to still_one (Reply #6)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:08 PM

9. Your not getting me. Every single poll had the same number. I thought it was a typo.

There were 5 polls the day that I checked. All 5 from Fox had her up by only 2. National poll up by 2. MD POLL UP BY 2. SAME WITH CA AND PENN. STATISTICAL PROBABILITY ALL?POLLS SAME NUMBER? Especially when the other polls had her up by much larger margins.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #9)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:14 PM

10. All Their sampling was obviously screwed up. And no, I didn't get your original

point, I do now. Thanks for the clarification

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Response to still_one (Reply #10)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:21 PM

11. I thought screwed up on purpose.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #11)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:34 PM

12. I don't know

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:41 PM

13. What are you talking about? Fox had her up 11 in PA

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/10/fox-news-poll-trump-holds-huge-lead-in-pennsylvania-clinton-up-over-sanders.html

Shows her at +11 in the PA Primary, she won by 12.

Fox's polling is accurate, unlike their news.

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Response to ram2008 (Reply #13)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:53 PM

14. No. When I looked it on the 538 just days before the primary the poll said Clinton +2

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #14)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:58 PM

15. Well, you must've imagined it, because no such poll exists n/t

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Response to ram2008 (Reply #15)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:10 PM

16. the poll your quoting was from April 10. the one I saw was around April 18. byline was Sanders sur

I looked twice because as I stated I thought it was a typo that they were repeating her national polls. As for Fox being accurate in polls. LOL

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #16)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:33 PM

17. Your eyes must've deceived you. There was no such poll.

If there was, you'd be able to easily find evidence of it.

And yes, Fox is accurate in polling, according to 538.

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Response to ram2008 (Reply #17)

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:36 PM

18. quick look right now

Right now on 538 one of the polls I was talking about.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com

The poll above it has Clinton +10 from Sextant Strategies

Fox news Clinton +2 April 18-21

YouGov Clinton +12
Look for yourself.

WHY SO MUCH DIFFERENCE?

I can't find the fox polls on the MD 538 site now they dropped the poll but they had in April.

Sorry the address is http://projects.fivethirtyeight/.../primary/california Just look on the California 538 state primary site.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #18)

Fri May 20, 2016, 08:49 AM

19. Your first link doesn't show PA, which is what we're talking about, second link is broken.

Still no poll in PA showing Clinton up only 2.

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Response to ram2008 (Reply #19)

Fri May 20, 2016, 09:27 AM

20. again thats California which is still up. Look on the Ca 538 site. PA and MD were already dropped

for more recent polls. But that one is still up. Like I said Look on the 538 CA primary site. I am having trouble with links.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #20)

Fri May 20, 2016, 09:33 AM

21. California has not yet voted, so the accuracy or inaccuracy of the polls there cannot be measured

But Fox had Clinton up 11 in PA she won by 12.

538 gives their polls a good rating.

it's generally regarded as a good poll.

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Response to ram2008 (Reply #21)

Fri May 20, 2016, 10:00 AM

23. As compared to the other polls.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #23)

Fri May 20, 2016, 10:04 AM

24. the top pol is 10. Fox poll 2. bottom poll 12. Quite a difference 10-------2--------12

Which one doesn't belong.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #20)

Fri May 20, 2016, 09:55 AM

22. Actually my post was about numerous Fox polls

My post said that there was 4-5 Fox polls on the 538 sites had her up by only 2 points, The same 2 points in each of the polls sometime in middle of April. So I thought it was a typo error. Especially when compared to other polls. I can now pinpoint it to be April 18-21 as I found one of the polls. Because it is after the election and 538 got better polls 538 must have dropped the Fox polls and gone for more recent polls. At the time those Fox polls dropped Clinton's chance of winning from 98-99% to 94%. As I said that was in April and they have since been dropped. There is, however, one of those polls left which is CA. ON the CA primary site 538. Im having trouble with the links but the information to type in is right there. Bye bye.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #22)

Fri May 20, 2016, 10:56 AM

25. You're not making any sense at all, the polls you're talking about don't exist

The only one that exists is a +2 one Clinton one in California which has not yet voted.

You're having trouble with links because there is no such thing that you speak of.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #22)

Fri May 20, 2016, 09:01 PM

27. I just found another poll from Fox that has Clinton up +2

I've got to figure out how to post to these links. I'll be back.

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