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J_J_

(1,213 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:41 PM May 2016

What is the proper response when you see your vote has been stolen?


It seems the Nevada Democratic elite were completely prepared to piss people off, they knew there would be a response when they behaved like dictators.

This is why they had the brownshirts all prepared to kick everyone out.

So what were people supposed to do when they witnessed such overt cheating?

What is appropriate according to the media and Hillary people?


Seems any normal person might react to the theft of their vote in a Democracy, one that wastes all our money on wars trying to create our form of government elsewhere.

Instead of apologizing for their behavior, or giving us some avenue for protesting this injustice....they are just lying and pretending it didn't happen.

Instead of admitting what they have done, they use the classic "Big LIE" used by Republicans and corporate media to say the exact opposite of reality.

If the Democratic elite and their corporate media did nothing wrong, why can't they at least admit what happened with the registrations and why Bernie delegates were mad in the first place?
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What is the proper response when you see your vote has been stolen? (Original Post) J_J_ May 2016 OP
Hillary won the Nevada primary. Sanders was the one trying to steal votes. Trust Buster May 2016 #1
Nope. They were angry over the restrictive rules Lange tried to enact. Fawke Em May 2016 #8
Yes, Hillary won Nevada LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #11
"wasn't able to manipulate a delegate lead in his favor" J_J_ May 2016 #15
Of course he didn't have more delegates LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #21
They didn't allow +60 Bernie delegates in, held the vote early J_J_ May 2016 #23
Yes, we do LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #32
Well she won, but there were a few shenanigans at the Caucus Blue Meany May 2016 #17
Caucuses suck. Both sides benefit/suffer. BeyondGeography May 2016 #26
Please listen to Thom Hartmann's programs yesterday and today. JDPriestly May 2016 #31
I already covered your response "they are just lying and pretending it didn't happen" J_J_ May 2016 #13
What the Dems in Nevada did when Bernie tried to steal the votes was very well handled. YouDig May 2016 #2
"they use the classic "Big LIE" used by Republicans and corporate media" J_J_ May 2016 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #3
You need to research how the caucus system works. HubertHeaver May 2016 #16
^^^ what they said. auntpurl May 2016 #4
True justice is worth fighting for. floriduck May 2016 #5
Their response was mild compared to what it might have been... Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #6
To KICK SOME ASS is the proper response. John Poet May 2016 #7
It's not like election integrity hasn't been a valid concern for years and sorry ass Democrat$ nc4bo May 2016 #14
Bingo. In response to the OP the response should be to document the theft and prosecute the offenders Vincardog May 2016 #30
I would see red. polly7 May 2016 #9
NOT threaten someones life uponit7771 May 2016 #10
Well, when it helps Clinton, you are supposed to do nothing. jeff47 May 2016 #12
For Berniebros? Check the voing machines for Cheetos stained finger prints. nt LexVegas May 2016 #18
So I see that no one has given me the proper response to election fraud J_J_ May 2016 #20
Or at least sit down and sing "God Save the Queen" n/t arcane1 May 2016 #22
We have already been there twice- 01 and 04 LadyHawkAZ May 2016 #24
Attending the state convention to out-organize the people who stole it and correct the theft Recursion May 2016 #25
Torches, pitchforks, tar and feathers, and guillotines. HooptieWagon May 2016 #27
What did you actually 'see'????- riversedge May 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Beowulf May 2016 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #34
Sanders had less people show up, missing 462. Vote was not being stolen. Proper response seabeyond May 2016 #35
Nevada primary results - Clinton 52.6% Sanders 47.3% Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #36

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
8. Nope. They were angry over the restrictive rules Lange tried to enact.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:48 PM
May 2016

I hope someone tapes Thom Hartmann's show today so I can link to it here.

He has people on explaining WHY people were angry and it wasn't about Hillary, per se (although her minions lost their candidate a lot of votes by pulling the stunts they did).

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
11. Yes, Hillary won Nevada
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:52 PM
May 2016

fair and square. That Sanders wasn't able to manipulate a delegate lead in his favor means democracy won.

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
15. "wasn't able to manipulate a delegate lead in his favor"
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:03 PM
May 2016


He had more delegates as you admit,there should not have been anything to manipulate.
 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
23. They didn't allow +60 Bernie delegates in, held the vote early
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016

so no one really knows who had more delegates

Response to J_J_ (Reply #23)

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
17. Well she won, but there were a few shenanigans at the Caucus
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:04 PM
May 2016

that gave her an edge, like holding the largest one at a casino owned by one of her supporters having him give paid time off to his employees so that they could participate; and allowing them to participate without registering to vote.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
31. Please listen to Thom Hartmann's programs yesterday and today.
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

Don't fall for the Dean scream moment that the media is trying to create.

The Bernie supporters wanted a chance to participate meaningfully in the convention.

Adopting Roberts' Rules of Order would have been a good idea. Hillary won in Nevada but by a bare minimum of votes, and as I understand it from Bernie supporters who were there, with some unfair, heavy-handed maneuvering. Thus, there were feelings on the parts of Bernie supporters that they could not trust the Hillary supporters.

There is blame to go around in the management of the Nevada Democratic Party. And what in the world was Barbara Boxer, a California senator doing, berating Bernie supporters in Nevada, not even her state? Where was Harry Reid? Why wasn't he speaking instead of Barbara Boxer?

The Nevada convention appears to have been organized to create a Dean scream moment.

The media is behind it. They don't want net neutrality. They don't want the overturning of Citizens United. And why? Because the end of net neutrality and the continuation of Citizens United means big profits for them. That includes MSNBC.

Democrats should not be sucked in by the manipulations of the press and the poor management of the Nevada Democratic Party.

Bernie is so peaceful that even a bird fearlessly lands on his podium.

Bernie is the best candidate in 2016 by far.

Don't let a media-created Dean scream moment divide our Democratic Party. And let's be thankful that Barbara Boxer will be retiring soon. As a Californian, I have always proudly supported her, but she let her emotions rule during her speech and reaction to the Nevada convention attendees, and that is a sign that her time in the Senate should end. She is not emotionally up to handling difficult situations any more. Thanks, Barbara Boxer, for your service. But it is really time to leave while you are ahead.

I feel sad to have to say that about Barbara Boxer, but she showed herself to be ill equipped for her job. She was supposed to unite her listeners, not divide them further. Or??? Maybe she was supposed to divide them???? Maybe that was her purpose, conscious or not?

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
13. I already covered your response "they are just lying and pretending it didn't happen"
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:00 PM
May 2016

I was looking for what exactly Hillary people would do if they thought their vote was stolen?
 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
19. "they use the classic "Big LIE" used by Republicans and corporate media"
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:05 PM
May 2016

no need to post, I already covered your response in the Op

Response to J_J_ (Original post)

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
5. True justice is worth fighting for.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:47 PM
May 2016

And that is not to imply violence is acceptable. Fighting means doing whatever you can to make life better for the majority of citizens.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
6. Their response was mild compared to what it might have been...
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:47 PM
May 2016

...at other points in out nation's history. Very mild...

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
7. To KICK SOME ASS is the proper response.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:48 PM
May 2016

Too bad no one actually did, except in the fairy tales created by the Clinton forces.



nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
14. It's not like election integrity hasn't been a valid concern for years and sorry ass Democrat$
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:01 PM
May 2016

Including the head cheese has done very, very little to clean it up.

The problems have excisted for years and years. By not working to hold clean elections and elections the majority of the public have confidence in, the Democrats are as corrupt as the Republicans.

Weakness or complacency, the excuses don't matter now. In either situation, the Democratic party has lost nearly every bit of credibility and has proven it can not be entrusted to keep even its own party's election process clean.

Truth be known, the U.N. should be overseeing our elections, including the in-party elections.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
30. Bingo. In response to the OP the response should be to document the theft and prosecute the offenders
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:20 PM
May 2016

Take them to court and if necessary start a general strike until you get satisfaction.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
12. Well, when it helps Clinton, you are supposed to do nothing.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:59 PM
May 2016

When the GOP does it this fall, you can be sure the same people will be demanding a general strike and rioting.

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
20. So I see that no one has given me the proper response to election fraud
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

We are supposed to just sit down and shut up.

Some democracy.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
24. We have already been there twice- 01 and 04
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

There's probably a large overlap between the people who swore, screamed and protested over Dubya and the ones now condemning the Sanders camp for doing the same thing.

Scary, isn't it?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
25. Attending the state convention to out-organize the people who stole it and correct the theft
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

Which is in fact what happened.

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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
35. Sanders had less people show up, missing 462. Vote was not being stolen. Proper response
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:36 PM
May 2016

When the loser throws fits and starts problems?

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
36. Nevada primary results - Clinton 52.6% Sanders 47.3%
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

If Sanders people and managed to take the majority of delegates, it would have been voters for Clinton whose votes were stolen.

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/nevada

It didn't happen, so no votes were stolen.

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