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Bernie is in danger of losing his committee assignments (Original Post) rdking647 May 2016 OP
He has done nothing but attack the Democratic Party. He should not be granted assignments Trust Buster May 2016 #1
Then perhaps he should quit caucusing with them. John Poet May 2016 #12
That's would be an acceptable outcome to me. Trust Buster May 2016 #18
That is because you believe in nothing AgingAmerican May 2016 #106
Yep, then he can start caucusing with the Republicans CajunBlazer May 2016 #23
Because the Democrats have so many seats to spare John Poet May 2016 #28
The Democrats are expected to take a 2 to 3 seat majority in coming election CajunBlazer May 2016 #61
They need 60 votes Duckhunter935 May 2016 #83
The magic numbers are 40, 50 and 60. TexasTowelie May 2016 #111
its about principles drray23 May 2016 #164
Bernie would vote his principles no matter what All in it together May 2016 #174
So when they need his vote, what will they do? aspirant May 2016 #29
The Democrats are expected to take a 2 to 3 seat majority in coming election CajunBlazer May 2016 #63
So they can depend on every ConservaDem aspirant May 2016 #69
The Reagan Democrats long ago became Republicans long ago. CajunBlazer May 2016 #192
Yes they would Duckhunter935 May 2016 #84
53 Senate votes will not break a filibuster CajunBlazer May 2016 #195
We might have done so... Demsrule86 May 2016 #99
What if they are Hillary-type Democrats, voting for fracking, and TPP? immoderate May 2016 #128
Then you are $hit out of luck CajunBlazer May 2016 #133
. immoderate May 2016 #136
Not gonna happen with Hillary at the top of the ticket. She inspires no one. Indys will stay home ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #182
Says the political expert who has earned EVERYONE's trust CajunBlazer May 2016 #188
St. Bernard will vote his conscience, right? PeaceNikki May 2016 #82
Sure thing aspirant May 2016 #90
more likely his ego Demsrule86 May 2016 #101
Do you have evidence Hills has a conscience? aspirant May 2016 #117
Really? Have you ever looked at the body of her work? anotherproletariat May 2016 #132
Is the FBI interested in her "body of...work"? aspirant May 2016 #137
What is going to be your meme when the FBI completely clears her? CajunBlazer May 2016 #140
What's your new meme when indictment comes calling? aspirant May 2016 #142
You eveidently don't bother to keep up with current events CajunBlazer May 2016 #148
Currently the FBI is on the case. aspirant May 2016 #166
And it has already leaked out... CajunBlazer May 2016 #170
Let's see aspirant May 2016 #181
You need to reread my posts? CajunBlazer May 2016 #186
of course Demsrule86 May 2016 #189
You would think puffy socks May 2016 #39
you would think Hillary supporters would understand she has not be elected yet and needs every vote hollysmom May 2016 #105
She doesnt need every vote. puffy socks May 2016 #112
Bernie is a buffoon? grasswire May 2016 #134
No puffy socks May 2016 #144
who are the "fanatics"? grasswire May 2016 #146
I'm sorry, puffy socks May 2016 #149
You are simply deluded. grasswire May 2016 #152
#ImWithHer frylock May 2016 #183
Ah but we made the mistake Demsrule86 May 2016 #190
I hadn't thought of that. puffy socks May 2016 #191
Exactly. scscholar May 2016 #87
After watching Trump and Bernie Demsrule86 May 2016 #97
I guess he can go it alone WhiteTara May 2016 #25
Why DOES he caucus with the Democrats anyway? Proud Liberal Dem May 2016 #113
I watched a few minutes of that speech last night. It was a string of attacks on . . . brush May 2016 #40
How about Meteor Man May 2016 #59
Okay, but the all this internecine stuff is splitting the party . . . brush May 2016 #76
1 and 2 absolutely, in 1000%. Hortensis May 2016 #194
By his own admission . . . peggysue2 May 2016 #109
You guys sound exactly like the Republicans who condemn anyone who questions KPN May 2016 #74
It's what Authoritarians Do Ferd Berfel May 2016 #143
Thanks for that. KPN May 2016 #179
LOL - I hear ya Ferd Berfel May 2016 #198
+1000 redstatebluegirl May 2016 #126
I'll match that with -1000 and bump another -2000! KPN May 2016 #180
Says who? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #2
I agree katmondoo May 2016 #4
...and Hills is a woman of honor? aspirant May 2016 #6
And Hillary is honorable? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #13
Your perfect right...but I consider that view badly skewed. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #66
the FBI apparently has no problem with him. nt grasswire May 2016 #129
You're pulling this out of your ass and pretending it's true? arcane1 May 2016 #3
new? pengu May 2016 #108
not to worry, Trump will reward Bernie for his assistance Sheepshank May 2016 #5
He should lose his senate assignments griffi94 May 2016 #7
lol reddread May 2016 #10
You're welcome griffi94 May 2016 #15
well thanks for confirming the near legendary vindictiveness of the Clinton power structure azurnoir May 2016 #24
Again you're welcome griffi94 May 2016 #31
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That's how it works griffi94 May 2016 #80
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Hahaha griffi94 May 2016 #88
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #94
Bernie attacked the Democratic party griffi94 May 2016 #98
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Sure he has a right to attack it griffi94 May 2016 #115
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There aren't enough of you to deny Hillary the Whitehouse griffi94 May 2016 #119
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I am griffi94 May 2016 #124
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And then the Democrats should raze his house and scatter the ashes on unhallowed ground. frylock May 2016 #184
From the perspective of the establishment Democrats his power base is bigger than ever. aikoaiko May 2016 #8
Oh yes indeedy, they want access to that voter file, no doubt. joshcryer May 2016 #17
Link? farleftlib May 2016 #9
... And/or because of electoral process... Ghost Dog May 2016 #51
What will he do? dogman May 2016 #11
You know this how? myrna minx May 2016 #14
Oh so he should be punished for DARING to delay the coronation? phleshdef May 2016 #16
Yes, of course he should be punished. Shemp Howard May 2016 #45
Pull his pension, his medical cover... Ghost Dog May 2016 #64
And airbrush him out of all the old Senate photos. Shemp Howard May 2016 #70
Doubleplus MinTrue! Ghost Dog May 2016 #75
"Danger" from you? Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #19
Probably not. He is an elected U.S. senator and a Hortensis May 2016 #20
He should lose them KingFlorez May 2016 #21
OFF WITH HIS HEAD! TheSarcastinator May 2016 #22
Nope, just off with his committee assignments and perhaps with his caucus membership CajunBlazer May 2016 #38
Insulting the state of Vermont now. Classy. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #62
Vermont is a tiny and insignificant state CajunBlazer May 2016 #67
And yet it has as many senators as California and New York. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #154
You will have to ask the framers of the Constituation CajunBlazer May 2016 #157
I know the history. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #159
Or California or Texas CajunBlazer May 2016 #161
Blackmail? How Democratic. Skwmom May 2016 #26
Blackmail in politics? Surely not. CajunBlazer May 2016 #42
Just because it's become SOP, doesn't make it okay. Skwmom May 2016 #44
Just because its not okay in your book CajunBlazer May 2016 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #73
We have a deep bench full of excellent progressives. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #27
As a new Dem, he should be at the bottom of the seniority list. CrowCityDem May 2016 #30
you must be one of her brilliant campaign strategists' timmymoff May 2016 #37
Her strategists are winning. Bernie's sure as heck aren't. CrowCityDem May 2016 #48
We have no doubt who is winning. timmymoff May 2016 #50
What's your source for that? QC May 2016 #32
Trump has no say at all about congress leadership or committee yeoman6987 May 2016 #33
When starting a post MuseRider May 2016 #34
Threats, now there is the higher ground. aspirant May 2016 #35
You mean threats like leftynyc May 2016 #86
Sure, if you threaten Bernie's positions aspirant May 2016 #96
So everyone has to Demsrule86 May 2016 #103
Hills "talking points" aspirant May 2016 #118
Uh-huh timmymoff May 2016 #36
The Dems need Bernie Optimism May 2016 #41
Sanders needs the Democrats far more than they need him CajunBlazer May 2016 #53
You forget something. grasswire May 2016 #131
Those Democrats will need to get on board or be left at the station CajunBlazer May 2016 #139
It's not going to happen just because you say it must. grasswire May 2016 #145
Let's just hope for everone's sake that retribution is not required CajunBlazer May 2016 #147
that sounds like a threat, and is dangerous talk nt grasswire May 2016 #150
Sanders has unleashed a lot of enthusiam CajunBlazer May 2016 #160
my advice: grasswire May 2016 #163
No need, I understand CajunBlazer May 2016 #167
Yes, by all means punish him severely B2G May 2016 #43
We are not responsible for your attempts to kill mmonk May 2016 #46
There are consequences for taking on the big guys.....Look at Dean hollowdweller May 2016 #47
Yep. The sweet essence Ghost Dog May 2016 #72
New threats against Bernie. They want unity! Bull shit! imagine2015 May 2016 #49
If the Democratic Party punishes him for daring to run against their pre-coronated nominee Time for change May 2016 #52
. Ghost Dog May 2016 #79
If Dems win the senate, Bernie will be the banking committee chairman BlueStateLib May 2016 #155
Off with his head! The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #54
I hope he is stripped down naked. Then he can tell us how he is the man, with no power behind him. seabeyond May 2016 #55
I hope all that hate isn't eating a hole in your stomach. frylock May 2016 #91
Mmmmm. seabeyond May 2016 #93
LOL: naked revenge fantasies say more about you TheSarcastinator May 2016 #100
That's a pretty scary post right there. NorthCarolina May 2016 #162
Ahhhh. An insult. Good for you, and consistent. Unhinged? Mentally ill? seabeyond May 2016 #171
He should lose them. Hasn't done that much anyway. nt Jitter65 May 2016 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #57
The Clintons found their gravy train on Wall Street. imagine2015 May 2016 #120
This is funny, because Hill has nothing to lose....hence no threats to her. peace13 May 2016 #60
Nothing else needs to happen, he has already shown that he is not loyal to the Democratic Party anotherproletariat May 2016 #65
Let them do that pinebox May 2016 #71
Yep. Bernie will be yesterday's flavor. Someone else will COLGATE4 May 2016 #165
Ironic, isn't it, since Bernie is what the Democratic Party used to stand for? Vinca May 2016 #77
Nicely put. n/t Ghost Dog May 2016 #81
Nonsense Demsrule86 May 2016 #104
hit and run? dana_b May 2016 #78
I have no doubt about it. frylock May 2016 #89
He should n/t obamanut2012 May 2016 #92
The party doesn't want liberals in charge of anything anyway Doctor_J May 2016 #95
Right....when dems are not the majority and rely on HIS VOTES. Right.... ViseGrip May 2016 #102
hrmmm... are you implying that Sanders would vote with Republicans and against progressive PeaceNikki May 2016 #110
And America is in danger of hard-charging right back into the Gilded Age. VulgarPoet May 2016 #107
I'm with a guy who stands by principle... lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #121
May thy knife chip and shatter. TheKentuckian May 2016 #123
Link? Source? merrily May 2016 #127
Time to primary BS and his bro's. stonecutter357 May 2016 #130
They already tried that Mnpaul May 2016 #172
Ooohh... THREATS of REPRISAL. How Clintonian. AzDar May 2016 #135
the authoritarians can't help themselves grasswire May 2016 #151
WTF did anybody actually read the statement??? lagomorph777 May 2016 #138
If they pull that Bull, I would encourage him to run Indy Ferd Berfel May 2016 #141
Yes. Yes he is postatomic May 2016 #153
As the President, I don't think he can be on Senate committes. pdsimdars May 2016 #156
And God that was a perfect statement about Nevada. Understood the facts and was pdsimdars May 2016 #158
And what is the source for your statement that he is in danger of losing his committee assignments? Samantha May 2016 #168
I think I'll let him worry about that. Nice of you to be concerned... snowy owl May 2016 #169
Bernie is getting too popular Mnpaul May 2016 #173
In the 2018 midterms, the Democrats will be defending many more Senate seats than the Republicans. Jim Lane May 2016 #175
pfffft? this must be hopemountain May 2016 #176
I'm in danger of losing my lunch. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #177
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #178
No. He is not. We heard this same nonsense in 2008 about Hillary from people who were determined StevieM May 2016 #185
I'm guessing Sanders cares as little about ridiculous threats like this as I do. DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #187
He should be expelled from the caucus and probably will be due to harassment The Second Stone May 2016 #193
If that's where they want to go, then there's no point to return to the Senate.. 2banon May 2016 #196
DUzy! Wednesdays May 2016 #197
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
1. He has done nothing but attack the Democratic Party. He should not be granted assignments
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:44 AM
May 2016

within the Party.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
23. Yep, then he can start caucusing with the Republicans
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:54 AM
May 2016

...but they wouldn't have him either. He always said he was a man without the party; now that can become reality instead of just talk

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
61. The Democrats are expected to take a 2 to 3 seat majority in coming election
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016

If that happens, Sanders is expendable

TexasTowelie

(111,301 posts)
111. The magic numbers are 40, 50 and 60.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

If a party is at 38-42 (to enable a filibuster), 48-52 (for a simple majority), or 58-62 (to override a filibuster) then there is a reason to coddle colleagues to form or retain a coalition. That is what occurred after the 2006 and 2008 elections so it gave Bernie more power than he would have had otherwise as an independent senator. If the party is outside those ranges then there is more leeway so that a party does not have to cater to any individual senator. The underlying math is that there is a 50-50 chance that a specific senator will be relevant in being part of a coalition; otherwise, things get pushed two years down the road when the next election occurs.

drray23

(7,587 posts)
164. its about principles
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:02 PM
May 2016

At this point, I am willing to lose Sander's vote in the senate. What is he going to do if Reid pulls his committee assignments ? Vote for the GOP ? I do not think so. He will just give more fiery speeches on the floor of the senate and keep tilting at windmills then eventually retire.

All in it together

(275 posts)
174. Bernie would vote his principles no matter what
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:55 PM
May 2016

But lots of Dems won't appreciate the party's continuing to treat Bernie and his supporters terribly.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
63. The Democrats are expected to take a 2 to 3 seat majority in coming election
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:27 PM
May 2016

if that happens they would rarely need his vote

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
192. The Reagan Democrats long ago became Republicans long ago.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:44 AM
May 2016

The Democrats we need to worry about are those like the ones in Kentucky that are concerned about coal jobs. They all along were planning to vote for Trump in the GE, but voted for Sanders in the Kentucky primary to try to keep Hillary from winning. Of course they failed to consider that Sanders would be at least as driven to get quit using coal as Hillary is. Of course Kentucky is going to go Republican in the GE anyway.

On the other there will be Republicans and right leaning independents who will ether not vote or will vote for Hillary because they cannot see Trump as President.

There will be blue collar Democrats concerned about loss of jobs due to outsourcing. They may well be an area of concern that needs to be addressed. Despite the Sanders and Trump rhetoric, globalization is a reality and economist will tell you that on the whole it will benefit our economy. However, there is no denying that it will cause real pain in specific industries and therefore in specific geographical area. Those jobs are going away no matter what we do. Specific government programs are absolutely needed to cushion the blows. On the other hand consumers will not go back to paying higher prices to prevent globalization. The US with government helping to lead the way, we must position ourselves a a country to be in a position to be leaders in business areas which will produce the high paying jobs of the future. That also means we have to set job training programs to make sure we have the people to fill those jobs.

The most pressing need is to get the Sanders supporters on board behind the nominee.

Bottom line: If Democrats keep the Obama coalition together (blacks, Hispanics single women, and young people - all of whom seem to be on board) the Democratic nominee will win and Trump will lose.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
195. 53 Senate votes will not break a filibuster
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:51 AM
May 2016

Sanders vote would not make a difference so he will not be needed.

Beside, the filibuster are no longer needed in the Senate. Unless you are Ted Cruz and you just want to call attention to yourself, no one stands in front of the Senate for hours just wasting time.

If during the preliminary vote on whether to bring a bill up for a final vote, 60 Senators do not vote "yes", the bill simply doesn't make it to the floor for a vote and the it usually dies.

Demsrule86

(68,351 posts)
99. We might have done so...
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

But Bernie has probably ruined our chances...and if Trump wins, it just does not matter. Let him go to the GOP he can vote for the SCOTUS nominee who will be the fifth vote to overturn Roe V Wade. Some legacy Bernie...Trump will be your legacy if you don't knock it off.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
182. Not gonna happen with Hillary at the top of the ticket. She inspires no one. Indys will stay home
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:51 AM
May 2016

or vote Trump. Dem candidates who support Hillary will suffer the wrath. America is headed down the toilet, led by Hillary and Trump.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
188. Says the political expert who has earned EVERYONE's trust
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

If the prospect of a Trump Presidency does get Democrats and left leaning independents to the polls, they need to turn in their "I give a shit" cards.

I'll lay good odds that the percentage of registered voters in the coming general election will set new records, even if some conservatives vote down ticket without voting for a Presidential candidate.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
132. Really? Have you ever looked at the body of her work?
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:39 PM
May 2016

Or are you just going by the GOP smears, NONE of which have ever proven to be true.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
140. What is going to be your meme when the FBI completely clears her?
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:28 PM
May 2016

Better find another one now and avoid the rush.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
170. And it has already leaked out...
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:43 PM
May 2016

that:

1) The FBI will soon be wrapping up their investigation very soon...

and...

2) They have yet to find that any laws were broken or that Hillary did anything wrong.

So I know you are praying that Hillary will be arrested before the convention because that is the only way your guy will survive, but it ain't going to happen. This is but another right wing smear which has run out of legs.

You should be ashamed of yourself for propagating Republican talking points, but you're wasting your time with me - I know better.

Your desperation is a pitiful thing to behold.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
181. Let's see
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:41 AM
May 2016

2)" They have yet to find that any laws were broken or that Hillary did anything wrong."

Which FBI press conference was that?

When did the FBI become a spokesperson for the Repub Party ?

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
186. You need to reread my posts?
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:31 AM
May 2016

I didn't say there was an announcement; I said it the information that no wrong doing was detected was contained a leak from the investigation. As I am sure you are aware, leaks are often used to provide information to the public which investigators are not ready to announce officially.

I am not asking you to believe this leak (which was widely reported by the way). I am only cautioning that you should not get your hopes up if you are counting on Hillary being criminally charged or accused of other wrong doing, allowing your candidate to win the nomination. If you get your hopes up, I am afraid that you will be very disappointed.

Demsrule86

(68,351 posts)
189. of course
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:36 AM
May 2016

Her behavior during the Obama 2008 election showed that clearly...she could not in good conscience leave the American people to McCain and Palin...and Trump is much worse so she conceded and endorsed. She and Bill helped Obama in 2008 and 2012. She has a conscience and cares about Americans...Bernie not so much.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
39. You would think
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

that at Bernie's age he would understand that when you stand alone the chances of successfully taking on challenges and overcoming them are small. But when there's unity, victory is far more certain and overcoming challenges is possible.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
105. you would think Hillary supporters would understand she has not be elected yet and needs every vote
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:20 PM
May 2016

or she can be the one person who could lose to Donald Trump.

this is not a threat, this is just recognizing when running for office you need to win if you want to get in office.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
112. She doesnt need every vote.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

Hillary supporters are well aware that we don't want to lose to Trump. Unity provides better certainty.
In fact it was when camp Hillary dared to point out this very fact that Sanders supporters threw a tantrum, about "telling them how to vote" and accusing Hillary of wanting a coronation.

Yes it's a threat and it's meant to be ..... but an empty one. I've seen people on here warning they need their vote "earned" better watch out what we post..blah blah.
I don't believe the fanatics have the numbers needed to throw the election to Trump.
Especially after the general public has to listen to that buffoon for 5 long months and after enduring the ridiculous antics and conspiracy theories of the Bernie's most fanatical supporters.
Hillary has support , she's beaten the pants off Bernie both in delegates and the popular vote.
I seriously doubt the efforts of Bernie's supporters will sway any SDs Bernie's way. I'm pretty sure people don't respond to death threats well. And no one buys into the "it wasn't Bernie supporters" line except Bernie's supporters.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
134. Bernie is a buffoon?
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:45 PM
May 2016

SMH.

I guess you just can't recognize integrity and authenticity when you see it.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
144. No
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

Trump is a buffoon.
I don't believe the fanatics have the numbers needed to throw the election to Trump.
Especially after the general public has to listen to that buffoon for 5 long months
andafter enduring the ridiculous antics and conspiracy theories of the Bernie's most fanatical supporters.

No. Integrity isn't what Bernie's about, as demonstrated by the endless conspiracy theories, lies about endorsements, lie about an independent firm confirming Bernie was correct about the DNC firewall. Pretending only someone who doesn't work in corporate Americas can be Progressive. Lies all of them.

Sorry you were fooled.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
149. I'm sorry,
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

there are people who can help you.

Try this site: https://worldliteracyfoundation.org//



Fanatic fəˈnadik/
noun
noun: fanatic; plural noun: fanatics

1. a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause.




Like the Sanders people engaged in, defending or simply ignoring :

The actions of Bernie's supporters in Nevada in LA who are trying like hell to pretend no one knows it's Bernie supporters.

Sanders supporters in L.A. harassed Clinton supporters ripping a sign Hillary had signed from a little girl's hands.

the Sanders supporter threaten to cut out a congressman's tongue.

In Alaska they are threatened party officials.

Constant harassment of super delegates to try to intimidate them into changing their support to Sanders.

Revealing the phone numbers and home addresses of Clinton supporters.

Fake conspiracies over Bernie face book deletions

Fake conspiracies over rigged elections,

Fake conspiracies about coin tosses.






Demsrule86

(68,351 posts)
190. Ah but we made the mistake
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:38 AM
May 2016

of thinking, Bernie has the same goals that we do...I am beginning to think...his goal is to blow up the Democratic Party...and he cares nothing about Trump.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
191. I hadn't thought of that.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016

Why?
Because he is stupid?
Because he is naive?
Because he wants a scorched earth policy?
 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
87. Exactly.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:02 PM
May 2016

If you talk the talk, you should walk the walk. You want to brag about being alone then go be alone.

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
25. I guess he can go it alone
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:54 AM
May 2016

and not caucus with any party. Or maybe it's time to retire and live off the money Jane made.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,355 posts)
113. Why DOES he caucus with the Democrats anyway?
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

It looks like he agrees with them- on most things, anyway.

brush

(53,471 posts)
40. I watched a few minutes of that speech last night. It was a string of attacks on . . .
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

the Democratic Party establishment.

I thought he joined the party?

He sounds like a broken record from the 60s — "fight against the Democratic Party establishment", "fight against the Democratic Party establishment", "fight against the Democratic Party establishment".

Come on. How about we all fight against Trump.

Meteor Man

(385 posts)
59. How about
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016

we all fight against corruption everywhere we find it?

How about we all fight against the 1% corrupting both parties?

How about we all demand that Rahm Emmanuel and DWS both resign?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
194. 1 and 2 absolutely, in 1000%.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:49 AM
May 2016

Last edited Thu May 19, 2016, 12:25 PM - Edit history (2)

The internal stuff, I don't join witch hunts. If their constituents are happy with them it's probably none of my business. I'd vote for someone other than Wasserman in the primary, but that's irrelevant.

As for DWS's DNC position, DWS has been a lightning rod for a great deal of dissatisfaction, the decisions she presented were not hers alone, and I don't join witch hunts. For those who do, choose your favorite petition, they're already out there from various groups across the spectrum, conservative, liberal, far left, etc., etc. Of course, only DWS is named on them since who's going to bother looking up all the others on the committee, or care? In case you don't know, various power blocks from around the nation, including the states, elect their representatives to the DNC (hundreds of them).

Fwiw, I believe the petitions should all be tossed and only the opinions of registered Democrats should given any weight at all by the members of the DNC.

peggysue2

(10,811 posts)
109. By his own admission . . .
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

He joined the Democratic Party for the money and exposure. The closer he gets to the end, the more vitriol he's spewing about the party he rode in on. He loses his committee assignments? Boo-hoo.

I expected better out of the man. Between his comments on the Nevada fracas and the tirade last night, it's obvious that Benie Sanders is not a man of character or leadership. He's a man bitten by ambition, addicted to the chanting crowds and would rather burn-it-all down than face a loss with any measure of dignity.

Not only will the man lose the nomination but his legacy is toast. At most, he'll be remembered as the skunk at the party.

KPN

(15,587 posts)
74. You guys sound exactly like the Republicans who condemn anyone who questions
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:37 PM
May 2016

"America". Do you even hear yourselves?

You can't win people over by stifling their dissent.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
143. It's what Authoritarians Do
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:33 PM
May 2016

I used to send this to Republicans that they might read it and "know themselves'

I've been offering to CLinton's people more and more - hmmmm....

Bob Altemeyer's - The Authoritarians
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/




Please read, and know thyself.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
66. Your perfect right...but I consider that view badly skewed.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

Bernie has consistently held to a far, far higher road.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
5. not to worry, Trump will reward Bernie for his assistance
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

...in creating the BoB movement and postulating inflammatory statements after it because obvious he could never win...statements that created divisiveness, anger, and victimhood/frustration at a system that was claimed to be rigged at every turn. Everything Trump has been harping about to his voter too, as a reason not to vote for Hillary. how similar is that?

griffi94

(3,731 posts)
7. He should lose his senate assignments
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:47 AM
May 2016

Vermont should also have any pork they're getting
cut off.

Then the Democrats should run a serious campaign against him in 2018.

griffi94

(3,731 posts)
15. You're welcome
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:50 AM
May 2016

Laugh all you want.
In politics he's not going to get a free shot.

There will be payback of some kind.
I hope it's severe.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
24. well thanks for confirming the near legendary vindictiveness of the Clinton power structure
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:54 AM
May 2016

the denials were getting so very tiresome

Response to griffi94 (Reply #15)

griffi94

(3,731 posts)
80. That's how it works
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:49 PM
May 2016

But I hope Howard Dean runs against Bernie in 2018 and the Vermont voters
can keep their pork by electing him.

Response to griffi94 (Reply #80)

Response to griffi94 (Reply #88)

griffi94

(3,731 posts)
98. Bernie attacked the Democratic party
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

Not just Hillary.

He attacked the party that allowed him to join
just for his presidential campaign.

They gave him a platform and access to their resources.

Whe he saw he wasn't going to win he went slash & burn.

He'll get his payback.
That's just politics.

Response to griffi94 (Reply #98)

griffi94

(3,731 posts)
115. Sure he has a right to attack it
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:51 PM
May 2016

just like the senate Democrats have a right to squeeze him.

Bernie played hard ball. Good for him.
He lost tho. Now the other Democrats get to
play hard ball.

Good luck on your mission to destroy the Democratic party.
I tend doubt how successful you'll be.

I have no doubt that Bernies supporters are upset.
But if they had the numbers then Bernie wouldn't have lost.

Response to griffi94 (Reply #115)

griffi94

(3,731 posts)
119. There aren't enough of you to deny Hillary the Whitehouse
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:11 PM
May 2016

She's already drawing moderate Republicans who won't vote
for Trump.

Bernie started out with a good message.
Sadly he seems to have started believing his own press clippings.

The BoB thing is mostly just a tantrum from
the perpetually disgruntled.

Mainstream Democrats love Hillary.
That's why she buried Bernie with hundreds more delegates and millions
more votes.

Bernie needs to go take his medicine from the senate Democrats now.

I'd bet they pull his committee assignments.

Response to griffi94 (Reply #119)

griffi94

(3,731 posts)
124. I am
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:25 PM
May 2016

And so are the millions more primary voters who rejected Bernie.

I think Hillary wil bury Trump.
But if she loses as big a bummer as that'll be the voters will
have decided.

Bernies supporters don't seem to want the voters to decide.
They seem to be saying they know better what everyone should do.

But Bernies numbers don't bear that out.
Democratic voters said No Thanks Bernie.

Response to griffi94 (Reply #124)

aikoaiko

(34,127 posts)
8. From the perspective of the establishment Democrats his power base is bigger than ever.
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

He has a list of donors.
 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
9. Link?
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

I'd really like to gauge this danger for myself.

If Trump wins it's because America preferred him to Clinton.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
45. Yes, of course he should be punished.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:05 PM
May 2016

No one should be allowed to run against the establishment's favorite! It upsets the party bosses, and turns the primaries into (gasp) actual elections instead of glittery victory laps.

So I think Bernie should lose all his committee assignments. And his Senate parking spot. And his Senate barbershop privileges. OK, scratch that last one. It appears like Bernie doesn't use the barbershop much in the first place.

And while they're at it, the establishment should figure out a way to stick it to Martin O'Malley too. He dared to compete past the first debate. That was very rude of him.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
64. Pull his pension, his medical cover...
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:27 PM
May 2016

... like, you know, has been the case for so many others under recent regimes?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Probably not. He is an elected U.S. senator and a
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:53 AM
May 2016

slap at him big enough to hurt would also be a slap at the people he represents. It is supposed to be about the people, after all, and we are the Democratic Party.

As for big enough to hurt, true or not I heard just yesterday that he would not want to lead an important committee, which carries a lot of extra duties with it, including heavy-duty fundraising, so denying him a promotion is off the table. Overall, apparently their power to punish him is very limited because they can't offer or take away anything he really wants.

He always was a pontificating outsider, so his colleagues can't even snub him by no longer lunching with him. Pathetic!

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
21. He should lose them
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:53 AM
May 2016

He only caucused with Democrats because he wouldn't have received any committee assignments otherwise and you are useless as a Senator without committee assignments. If Democrats are so awful he should exit the caucus.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
38. Nope, just off with his committee assignments and perhaps with his caucus membership
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:02 PM
May 2016

...and anything else which makes him an effective Senator. Then the the people of Vermont will be displeased, with Sanders, very displeased. If there retributions, Sanders might as well retire for the good of his tiny, insignificant state.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
67. Vermont is a tiny and insignificant state
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

It is entire population is less than that a medium sized city and amounts to less than 1/600 of the population of the country.

It is so insignificant they have but one member of the House of Representative

If one is going to insult any state, Vermont is an excellent choice.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
157. You will have to ask the framers of the Constituation
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:39 PM
May 2016

But as I recall from history classes, colonies with small populations were hesitant to join the larger colonies in forming a federal government because they were afraid that the views of their citizens would be lost if states were only represented in the legislature based on population. The larger colonies of course had the opposite opinion.

The compromise was to form the House of Representatives were representation would be based on population and form the Senate where every state would have equal representation.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
159. I know the history.
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:42 PM
May 2016

Obviously they had a good reason for deciding that an insignificant state like Vermont, populated thinly by insignificant people, should have as many senators as the important states where the important people live. Like New York, the home of Wall Street, which obviously is very important.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
161. Or California or Texas
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:58 PM
May 2016

However, as I recall, there were a number of colonies back then, especially the Southern ones, which were thinly populated, so the "small colonies" had a lot of numerical clout.

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timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
37. you must be one of her brilliant campaign strategists'
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:02 PM
May 2016

the ones so anxious to snatch defeat from the hands of victory.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
50. We have no doubt who is winning.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:16 PM
May 2016

We have doubts about her being able to win in November. We have doubts about her staying true to her newly founded policies and principles she didn't have until sanders entered the mix. Those are our doubts, have you not read them before?

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
33. Trump has no say at all about congress leadership or committee
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

President of not. Bernie needs to ensure the democratic leadership is still ok with him. Reid is leaving so that is one person Bernie does not have to worry about. Boxer is leaving to so the two most upset with Bernie are gone in January.

MuseRider

(34,058 posts)
34. When starting a post
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

with an opinion it is always good to make sure it is known as just that, your opinion unless you don't give a damn what people end up thinking about all of your posts. Just a helpful reminder, thought you should know. I know I don't care for posting things that make me look like an ass.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
86. You mean threats like
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:00 PM
May 2016

nominate our choice or we'll sit home and have a hissy fit? Those kinds of threats?

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
96. Sure, if you threaten Bernie's positions
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

we threaten back, how does your loyalty oath medicine taste?

Demsrule86

(68,351 posts)
103. So everyone has to
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

agree with St.Bernie...well I don't. His so called ideas are nothing more than talking points that I have heard from others for years.

Optimism

(142 posts)
41. The Dems need Bernie
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

far more than he needs them. A shame they're not acting that way.

We've been saying this for months now ... if the Superdelegates give Hillary the nomination (as it looks like they will), say hello to President Trump.

I guess the silver lining of that would be that he'd be less likely to start an interventionist war of choice in Syria, Iran, Yemen, etc. I think we know how Hillary would act in that part of the world already.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
53. Sanders needs the Democrats far more than they need him
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:20 PM
May 2016

Especially if they retake the majority the Senate without him.

Remember Vermont is a tiny state and only has 1 member out of 435 in the US House of Representatives. It is only in the Senate were they have equal representation with the other states.

Having one of its two Senators being rendered ineffective would be a heck of a blow to the interests of the Vermont.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
131. You forget something.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:38 PM
May 2016

Bernie is now the beloved leader for millions of Democrats who will follow wherever he beckons. He is the head of a MOVEMENT, and that movement is large enough to decimate the Democratic Party, should all those people desert.

Only 27 percent of all voters currently identify as Democrats. What happens if half of those leave? They are already disaffected.

When you try to push Bernie out, you are tolling the death bell for the final death of the Democratic Party.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
139. Those Democrats will need to get on board or be left at the station
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:04 PM
May 2016

Given your post count I'm guessing that you are Democrat of long standing, but as a Sanders supporter you are in the minority. Note that when primaries were limited only to Democratic voters, Sanders usually lost, often by large margins. His most zealous followers are independents too liberal to be Democrats. Some of them will probably go back to voting for the Green or Socialist Parties. A very large portion of Sanders' voters are young people and every poll I have seen shows that young people will support Hillary over Trump in very large percentages. By and large they are "what have you done for me lately" people not overly concerned about yesterdays hero's. Moderate independents now supporting Sanders will remain moderate independents.

I sincerely hope that by the time the general election is over, Sanders will not deserve any kind kind of retribution. However, if he screws this up, If he continues to turn his supporters against the party, politics is famous for paybacks. However, whatever occurs it will be after the election. You and a few other people for whom politics is a hobby might notice, but hardly anyone else will care.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
145. It's not going to happen just because you say it must.
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:05 PM
May 2016

Establishment Democrats will have no power over Sanders' movement. Any attempt to shame Sanders' people or herd them will have disastrous consequences for the party.

You and the establishment simply have no power over this any longer, except for the power to make it worse.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
160. Sanders has unleashed a lot of enthusiam
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:55 PM
May 2016

...and that by and large is a good thing.

Now he is being advised by a host of reasonable Democratic leaders that he will be responsible for harnessing that enthusiasm behind the Democratic nominee, and it is time to start making that transition now. If in fact he continues to encourage that this enthusiasm be turned against the Democratic Party, as he did in his speech last night, and his followers are no longer willing to follow him when he makes the pivot, then there will be a price to pay.

At that point his followers will no longer care what happens to him because most of them will view him as a turncoat who has betrayed his revolution. He cannot continue to beat his supporters into a frenzy against the party and suddenly turn into a "good Democrat" without repercussions for his popularity and the party. He is being advised by very knowledgeable political operatives, but the choice on how he will proceed is his alone.

Repercussions after the election, should they be necessary, are the least of his worries now.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
163. my advice:
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

Go to a Bernie rally. Experience the harmony, the actual joy in the air. The hope for a better future for all is almost palpable at the events.

I was at the "birdie" event. The 14,000 people in that arena were there because of the positive attributes of this man. And they (we) were awash in good cheer and humanity.

The characterizations you (and others) make this week are simply falsehoods. Just not true.

What IS true is that events like NV will break up the party.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
167. No need, I understand
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

Aside from "harmony" and "joy" there is also a lot of passion which has been exhibited at the rallies, on line, etc. This cannot be denied; it is an integral part of the movement. When passion is unrequited one of two things can happen - the passion can be redirected or it will turn to anger, especially when the passionate are lead to believe that they have been unfairly denied their objective.

The only question here is whether after Sanders whips his followers into a frenzy as he did last night, will he be capable of redirecting that passion or has he creating something he cannot control whose anger will be directed at the Democratic Party and even turned back on him if his followers perceive that he has sided with the "enemy" he helped to create.

Right now there are indications that it is anger which is starting leak out. I visualize Sanders as having created a great tiger which he now has by the tail and he can't let go. He will either have to try at this late date to control it or it might devour him, and it take a good sized bite out of the Democratic Party as well. Or it may be that he will have to just hold on for dear live while it runs amuck.


 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
43. Yes, by all means punish him severely
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:04 PM
May 2016

for daring to challenge The Queen.

That's a sure way to win over his supporters.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
46. We are not responsible for your attempts to kill
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:06 PM
May 2016

off this party through heavy handed tactics, smears, and dishonesty. Is there any sense of decency?

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
47. There are consequences for taking on the big guys.....Look at Dean
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:07 PM
May 2016

Dean learned his lesson after the Obama admin totally shut him out and now he's on the Hillary bandwagon.

If you buck the establishment there is retribution.


The Dem establishment has a lot of money and a lot of connections in the business world and if you do not go with them they will make sure you are a permanent outsider.

You can be for illegal immigration since that helps the big guys. You can be for gay rights or minority rights. You can be for all sorts of stuff because that doesn't cost them any money.

However once you start talking raising wages and providing benefits to workers then the mainstream democratic party is going to go after you. Also if you are serious about doing something about trade that is cutting into their bottom line and they are going to go after you big time.



 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
49. New threats against Bernie. They want unity! Bull shit!
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:13 PM
May 2016

They want to drive independents and progressives away from the Democratic Party to insure continued corporate and Wall Street control
of the party.

The Democratic party official establishment, the rich benefactors of Wall Street, are on the side of the 1/10th of 1 percent, not us.

We get it.

"especially if trump god forbid wins" Which is exactly what will happen if Hillary captures the nomination and drives independents and progressives away from her campaign.

Some "centrist" Democratic candidates have already said they are willing to work with a President Trump!!! I think some of these conservative Republican-lite Democratic officials would rather have Trump as President than Bernie Sanders.

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
52. If the Democratic Party punishes him for daring to run against their pre-coronated nominee
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

then I think that his campaign should do some polling to see what his chances are of winning in a 3 way race with Clinton and Trump. I suspect that he could win in a landslide, and if that is the case, then he most certainly should run. No better way to stop Trump from becoming our next President. Clinton will be a very weak candidate.

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)
155. If Dems win the senate, Bernie will be the banking committee chairman
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:37 PM
May 2016

it doesn't really matter what committees Bernie is on if Trump becomes president

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
55. I hope he is stripped down naked. Then he can tell us how he is the man, with no power behind him.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016

He wants to use the power, he wants to use the $ from big business, wallstreet, banks, .... as he trashes, attacks and blames.

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peace13

(11,076 posts)
60. This is funny, because Hill has nothing to lose....hence no threats to her.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:25 PM
May 2016

Why dream up this crap. And seriously, who cares. If this obstruction of free elections continues, Sanders does not need to waste any more of his time in committee meetings or DC for that matter. This would be like threatening to take someone's microwave away just seconds after stealing all of their food!

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
65. Nothing else needs to happen, he has already shown that he is not loyal to the Democratic Party
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:28 PM
May 2016

He does not deserve any respect or positions of authority in the party. It's time to start trashing his legacy, the way he has trashed the party.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
71. Let them do that
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:36 PM
May 2016

and watch what happens when they do.
Do you think people will sit idly by if that was to happen?

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
165. Yep. Bernie will be yesterday's flavor. Someone else will
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:21 PM
May 2016

'excite' enthusiasm for the 'revolution' in 2023.

Vinca

(50,170 posts)
77. Ironic, isn't it, since Bernie is what the Democratic Party used to stand for?
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:41 PM
May 2016

They hate it that suddenly the whole country knows there's not much of a difference between Democrats and Republicans anymore. Both parties are bought and paid for . . . by the highest bidder. Rank and file voters are just window dressing in a game that has selective rules and pre-determined outcomes.

Demsrule86

(68,351 posts)
104. Nonsense
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

Roosevelt was a great president and Bernie is nothing like him...Roosevelt got elected and got things done...Bernie talks and talks but does little.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
102. Right....when dems are not the majority and rely on HIS VOTES. Right....
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:16 PM
May 2016

And the dems will fuck over the veterans....who only Bernie comes through for. So go for it dems.....when it's totally blown up, we will rebuild and "LET THE PEOPLE INTO THE PARTY!"....GO BERNIE!

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
110. hrmmm... are you implying that Sanders would vote with Republicans and against progressive
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:25 PM
May 2016

legislation out of spite if he lost his committee assignments?

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
107. And America is in danger of hard-charging right back into the Gilded Age.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:22 PM
May 2016

Y'know that old axiom, "those who fail to learn from history..." Roaring 20's, here we come.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
121. I'm with a guy who stands by principle...
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:13 PM
May 2016

... when it conflicts with a party that has none.

That's a stupid choice for the party to force on fully half of democrats.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
172. They already tried that
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:59 PM
May 2016

and failed miserably. Go ahead and try to defeat someone with support of 71% of Vermont voters.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
151. the authoritarians can't help themselves
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

I am beginning to fear for Bernie's safety despite SS protection. nt

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
138. WTF did anybody actually read the statement???
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:01 PM
May 2016
"Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals."

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/statement-nevada/

If he loses committee assignments it will be for one of two reasons:

(1) The Dems are as nasty and corrupt as he's been saying all along, or
(2) He's President.
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
158. And God that was a perfect statement about Nevada. Understood the facts and was
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:40 PM
May 2016

balanced in his reply. Hard to get a politician who's that good these days.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
173. Bernie is getting too popular
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:02 PM
May 2016

must fling imaginary poo.

It's just wasted effort that turns even more people against the establishment.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
175. In the 2018 midterms, the Democrats will be defending many more Senate seats than the Republicans.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:23 PM
May 2016

It's amazing to me how many Clinton supporters in this thread are loudly proclaiming the virtues of party loyalty -- while simultaneously urging the party to go out of its way to alienate nine or ten million Sanders voters.

What else is in your plan for preparing for that tough midterm election? Have a bunch of Democratic committee chairs murder a puppy on live TV?

If thinking that far ahead is too difficult for you, consider just the next Congress. A narrow Democratic majority isn't rock-solid. People get sick, people die, people resign under fire. (Well, Democrats like Anthony Weiner do, anyway. Republican adulterers like David Vitter tend to stay in office.) We have a lot of Senators from states with Republican governors. Just off the top of my head: Massachusetts, Maryland, Florida, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana. Just in those states I count 9 incumbent Democrats, plus 4 more seats we could easily win this year and one more (Indiana) where we have an outside shot.

I don't want to see a Republican majority in the Senate. I confess, though, that there'd be an element of schadenfreude in seeing vindictive and authoritarian Senate Democrats make a pariah out of Bernie Sanders just out of spite -- and then lose their committee chairships as a result.

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StevieM

(10,499 posts)
185. No. He is not. We heard this same nonsense in 2008 about Hillary from people who were determined
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:11 AM
May 2016

to believe it.

Richard Wolf even repeated some of the nonsense in his book. He babbled something about Hillary getting the S.O.S. job because Senate Democrats were supposedly angry with her after her campaign.

In actuality she was welcomed back to the senate with her reputation as intact as ever. She was highly coveted on the campaign trail in 2008. And Obama had decided to make her Secretary of State all on his own.

Let's not disrespect Bernie by saying things about him that are untrue.

If Hillary wins the nomination I look forward to hearing Bernie speak in prime time at the convention.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
187. I'm guessing Sanders cares as little about ridiculous threats like this as I do.
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:33 AM
May 2016

It's telling that you don't have a basic understanding of what motivates Sanders and his supporters. The standard corruption hooks just can't find any purchase.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
196. If that's where they want to go, then there's no point to return to the Senate..
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

Bernie can be free to continue leading this revolution.



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