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Wed May 18, 2016, 09:54 AM

 

Ok Hillary, where are the transcripts. Not voting for you until you release them.

I'm sure former senator Bob Kerrey is correct, her campaign will be OVAH!

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Reply Ok Hillary, where are the transcripts. Not voting for you until you release them. (Original post)
ViseGrip May 2016 OP
YouDig May 2016 #1
Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #2
KingFlorez May 2016 #3
Land of Enchantment May 2016 #4
ViseGrip May 2016 #5
WhiteTara May 2016 #9
Xyzse May 2016 #6
Ohioblue22 May 2016 #7
Codeine May 2016 #8
obamanut2012 May 2016 #11
MineralMan May 2016 #10

Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:56 AM

1. Does that make you feel powerful, making demands of the candidate that defeated yours?

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:03 AM

2. Where is the long form birth certificate?!??!

 

zOMG! I'm series!

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:04 AM

3. You wouldn't vote for her even if she did release them

Don't pretend like it makes any difference.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:04 AM

4. Yes, the transcripts...what I would LOVE to see is the money trail between

the Clinton Foundation and her new friends in distant lands. Follow the money....

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:06 AM

5. Kick for disclosure!

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #5)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:31 AM

9. While we're disclosing

where are Bernie's tax returns? And his disclosure forms? I know he's TOO busy campaigning, but it sure would be nice to know what he is hiding in his returns. Yes, Yes, he's a man of modest means, so what is the hold up?

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:26 AM

6. Even if I prefer Bernie, I don't really see the point in going after the transcripts.

I have made no bones about that. There are many other easily verifiable reasons to not vote for Hillary.
-Votes
-Flip flopping
-Pandering
-Way her campaign (Not supporters) acted
-Current positions
-Her actions as Secretary of State

Now that I mentioned those... Unfair or not, the fact that she has done these speeches is definitely a negative on her part. Not that I think that there was anything illegal to them.

The problem with the transcripts to me, (and she will have this negative no matter what) are as follows:

-If she were to release them, no matter what, someone could find something negative about it by taking it out of context. Similar to Bernie's writing when he was younger. When I read them, the context was not about what the characters were thinking, when read in full the message actually means "People hide behind a veneer of respectability, while having not so respectable thoughts". Like the girl fantasizing about being taken by other individuals while being with her partner. In the end, all people could think of was that it was a rape fantasy, not the actual message. I find that ridiculous. Even if there were questionable issues placed in the transcript, it would be blown out of proportion.

-If she were not to release them, the opposition will be able to make up whatever they want in there. They could say anything and it can't be completely refuted. People will believe anything is possible with her, since she is not perceived to be trust worthy.

In balance, I don't really see the point in releasing them since both have a host of negatives that could possibly happen. In many ways, it is easier to deal with it, if what is said can not be verified.

It will still be a negative no matter what. I don't really see it being a positive for her to release the transcripts. Either way, this is one of the many things people can attack her on.

I generally don't go after her for this as I tend to prefer focusing on what can be verified.
It is verified that she gave speeches to Wall Street for Ungodly sums of money, but again, I can not verify the contents other than that I can't help but think that she is beholden to them, and it will affect her decision making(Which Obama in his book does mention how money influences them).

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:27 AM

7. You have no right to see her transcripts. You'll need to look elsewhere for your ammo

 

This demand is sexist

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:28 AM

8. Oh please. You wouldn't vote for her regardless. nt

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Response to Codeine (Reply #8)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:55 AM

11. yup

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:44 AM

10. I seriously doubt that you would vote for her no matter what she does.

So, I can't see how your demand is going to get much traction, really.

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