2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOregon: 18% in: Sanders 54 - Clinton 46
Is that a "blowout"?
Definitely way below his target percentage...
Dem2
(8,168 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)I suppose you think Mrs. Bill scorched him in KY, right?
Cal33
(7,018 posts)to lose.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Jesus, that Rovian math.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)But it's Hillbots........
brooklynite
(94,489 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)But when you count delegates from actual votes, it's so much closer.
brooklynite
(94,489 posts)Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)That is just a statistical tie thanks to Oregon being a neighboring state to Vermont and weird and white.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Edit - typo
Codeine
(25,586 posts)fixed
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)So most votes were in before tonight.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)HRC can't get past old guy with message that draws and resonates with massive crowds...
Codeine
(25,586 posts)It's all procedural motions at this point. She's been the winner for a while now.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)HRC can't put an end and overcome 'loser' old man with his message that resonates with massive crowds in remaining contests...
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Now take some time and think about it. What else might Bernie have in mind?
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)But maybe those votes are the wrong color?
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)let me correct your point for ya...
'skin color fool, skin color, and gender... yeah gender too'
Odd that HRC supporters can't put away this old man with his 'socialism' and 'big ideas' in the remaining contests leading up to the national convention... did these remaining states not get the memo?
Might want to color that into your schedule...
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)he would need from now on.
Even in Oregon he's only winning by about 6%. These wins are getting him nowhere.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)'Hillary unable to put him away'
aren't optics fun... for the someone that's supposedly 'won', the remaining states didn't get your memo, you might need to post harder with your replies stating the inverse as to what's happening in reality, post in CAPS.. that's the trick, try that
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)So will Hillary this time. And it won't even be close.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)remaining contests make front runner look foolish as voters didn't get HRC and her supporters memo about 'loser' Bernie
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)the reality of the 'math' that neither candidate will be able to earn the nomination without SDs pushing either one of them over the line will be on FULL display at convention and under the spectacular mass media spotlight for a ratings bonanza... nom nom nom nom... can you taste those optics? I can.... yum
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)They're not going to overrule the millions of additional voters who chose Hillary over Bernie.
It's the optics of overruling all those diverse voters across dozens of primary contests. That won't happen. You're right.
No matter what some hopeful Bernie supporters think.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)'optics of '
Which group is more fearful of MSM attention at convention?
Bernie will not bow out, he'll take this all the way through convention
So now you have MSM crawling all over the process, the convention, the SDs and why they exists and who they are...
Why did SDs pledge before a single vote was cast in the primary? 'overrule the millions' before 'all those diverse voters across dozens of primary contest' had their say?
'No matter what some hopeful HRC supporters think' they are the more fearful with what MSM will feast on for rating through convention... nom nom nom... it'll be a 10 course meal to savor
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)interesting.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Really. Well, that's just sad.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Even by the kindest estimates, he is going to have his ass blown out of the water. Takes a lot of ego to claim otherwise.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I'm actually pleasantly surprised. OR is very liberal, I thought that Sanders was going to trounce Hillary by double digits.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)and rural white everywhere else. Bernie should have trounced Hillary. This is a strong signal of his waning campaign.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)I seem to recall a certain Bernie supporters in these parts, oh maybe a month or so ago, predicting Sanders would hit 85% in Oregon and get a delegate bonanza.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)brooklynite
(94,489 posts)Our conspiracy theory of the evening!
Now, we can expect Sanders to DEMAND a recount...right?
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Where everyone agrees has the cleanest voting system in the country.