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Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:13 PM May 2016

The facts, there was NO violence and NO chairs thrown

Last edited Tue May 17, 2016, 06:50 PM - Edit history (2)

This is a fact.

Now, subsequent there were threatening phone calls and so on, which are very bad, potentially violent.


I have been subsequently corrected, it is NOT a fact, as I dont have any proof that it happened still, but it is not a fact until I can absolutely prove it didnt happen.



BTW, I fully believe BoB types are capable of violence.

I just didnt see it.

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The facts, there was NO violence and NO chairs thrown (Original Post) Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 OP
That's not a fact KingFlorez May 2016 #1
Dont see a single chair thrown in the video Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #3
What about the elderly lady who got hit by a bottle and... JaneyVee May 2016 #15
I havent seen that, link if you can, thanks Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #19
Tell us, Janey, how it happened and then link the source. floriduck May 2016 #79
I read that medics were there to treat one or Blue Meany May 2016 #81
Incompetence is a reason. hellofromreddit May 2016 #4
Sure, whatever you say KingFlorez May 2016 #21
If there was any violence there would have been arrests or at least a law suit against Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #53
He is either lying or lazy. It did not happen. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #13
Yes, of course KingFlorez May 2016 #25
If you have proof, reveal it. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #32
Shilling is a reason. nt Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #16
He's equally hard on Republicans and Democrats KingFlorez May 2016 #23
Yet he imagines things that no one saw. nt Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #28
Ok KingFlorez May 2016 #33
Not lately, and if you read Ralston, you know it. enlightenment May 2016 #57
link? grasswire May 2016 #34
He was wrong Bradical79 May 2016 #36
Ralston is a veteran Nevada journo Kelvin Mace May 2016 #66
The standards for sources of info has hit a new low .99center May 2016 #51
Thrown Chairs Stryguy May 2016 #92
Catapult the propaganda! Snarkoleptic May 2016 #96
He lied several times that night and was corrected by the people Fawke Em May 2016 #97
reports from people who were there support you oldandhappy May 2016 #2
The NYT disagrees with you. So does the AP. So does Harry Reid. YouDig May 2016 #5
And yet not a single pic or video. I am willing to believe this, given who is involved Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #6
There's video of someone needing medical attention. YouDig May 2016 #9
do you want to stop drumpf or not, if you do, we have to show some cooperation and Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #14
I do, of course. I don't think anyone except for Bernie can talk any sense into YouDig May 2016 #26
When the missiles are flying, will you still be arguing with me about this? Or do you NOT Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #103
Look. There was an angry mob. Injured people. Video of a man angrily picking up a chair kcr May 2016 #100
Bullshit ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #37
the person needing medical attention had a seizure. grasswire May 2016 #39
Ralston reported thrown chairs. Roberta Lange just confirmed it on Hardball. YouDig May 2016 #49
I don't believe Lange. grasswire May 2016 #54
Of course not, she's part of the conspiracy too. It's a very big conspiracy. YouDig May 2016 #55
She lied the other night. grasswire May 2016 #58
She lied the other night. grasswire May 2016 #60
Well, actually no she didn't, but why would you start being truthful now? YouDig May 2016 #64
Like I'd believe a woman who'd usurp democratic procedures. Fawke Em May 2016 #98
Well, not you. You think everyone's part of the conspiracy. YouDig May 2016 #99
Two people fainted. And no it is not hard to dismiss. There are dozens of videos available and not Luminous Animal May 2016 #40
Many journals independently reported thrown chairs. YouDig May 2016 #48
No they did not. They all used one reporters original reporting. Luminous Animal May 2016 #67
And you know this because you were simultaneously in all the newsrooms. YouDig May 2016 #72
There isnt video of the titanic sinking either. JaneyVee May 2016 #18
Ergo, fact. No video, it didn't happen. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #29
Of course there are many photos of the sinking, the lifeboats, the rescues and there is in fact Bluenorthwest May 2016 #61
If everyone on that ship had had a cell phone in their pocket Warren DeMontague May 2016 #38
Seriously? That is your answer? Kelvin Mace May 2016 #76
Over 5,000 cameras in that casino, name badges and IDs on everyone in that room, GreatGazoo May 2016 #95
and the White House as well hill2016 May 2016 #7
They are trying to change the narrative away from the screaming, dictatorial bureaucrats who ran it. reformist2 May 2016 #8
Illegal? How is it illegal? Come now. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #10
True.... "undemocratic" or "dictatorial" are probably better words. reformist2 May 2016 #31
Did the Sanders campaign finally come up with talking points Txbluedog May 2016 #11
Bernie says there was no violence and it's all Hillary's fault NobodyHere May 2016 #52
But there were dirty looks! n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #12
And bad words were said. kiva May 2016 #75
Establishment Democrats don't like it when Progressive's get uppity. jalan48 May 2016 #17
And human beings dont like to be deported for being brown...so as long as you vote for the Dem...OK Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #20
How come the cops didn't arrest anyone? Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #22
Five yard penalty for abuse of the word "fact". Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #24
I am open to video of violence or thrown chairs. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #30
You really just said it wasn't fact. It's in your reply. NCTraveler May 2016 #44
Yeah, I am saying you are right, the word "fact" doesnt deserve to be there, I would change Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #50
I enjoy your posts. NCTraveler May 2016 #71
Back atcha...cooler heads gotta prevail or that madman drumpf is gonna take over Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #74
Could the phone calls been fabricated too? B Calm May 2016 #27
Any evidence that they came from actual Bernie voters? Luminous Animal May 2016 #43
That's what I'm asking. Don't they have caller ID? B Calm May 2016 #46
And the threats are a crime, and there should be a record of the calls, etc. so police should be Warren DeMontague May 2016 #35
yes, let's see the police reports. nt grasswire May 2016 #41
^^This^^ Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #47
Isn't it nice we have something to talk about tonight other than the primary results coming out of Warren DeMontague May 2016 #42
President Obama just condemned the violence. auntpurl May 2016 #45
He used those words? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #62
I mean, how would you characterise it? auntpurl May 2016 #68
see my post Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #70
No, I mean how would you characterise the WH statement? auntpurl May 2016 #73
They were careful to say violence or THREAT of...So that makes more sense to me. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #77
Do you think all the media outlets: NYT, AP, Rolling Stone, etc, were all wrong? auntpurl May 2016 #78
I think one reporter reported something and the rest repeat it, that is usually how it works. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #82
I am a Hillary supporter who would vote for Bernie with joy in heart auntpurl May 2016 #83
Ficus plant Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #85
This whole conversation is out of control ciaobaby May 2016 #56
Video of "chair throwing" -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2016 #59
Thank you. grasswire May 2016 #63
The absence of evidence is not evidence. Eko May 2016 #65
And other dudes took it off him. auntpurl May 2016 #69
Guilty of a thought crime! lapfog_1 May 2016 #102
The absence of video evidence Kelvin Mace May 2016 #86
I made no claim. Eko May 2016 #91
If phone calls of that nature were placed, I expect to see police reports and arrests as that Bluenorthwest May 2016 #80
That's probably a lie as well Doctor_J May 2016 #87
Are you trying to tell me that Hillarians are lying? Doctor_J May 2016 #84
+1 B Calm May 2016 #89
It's just fucking unbelievable choie May 2016 #88
Here you go Stryguy May 2016 #93
Nice try- but choie May 2016 #94
Big of you to admit it. Jester Messiah May 2016 #90
So picking up a chair and threatening to throw it puffy socks May 2016 #101
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
15. What about the elderly lady who got hit by a bottle and...
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

The person who got hit and required medical attention? Which is on video.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
79. Tell us, Janey, how it happened and then link the source.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:53 PM
May 2016

Some hearsay doesno good for anyone. Furthermore, this whole Nevada issue could have been prevented had Roberta Lange done her job competently. Preventing the stand up vote, she incited the crowd. She might as well have yelled, "Fire". So I hope she loses her job to someone who is honest and trustworthy.

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
81. I read that medics were there to treat one or
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:54 PM
May 2016

more elderly people who were seated in the front, not from violence but some natural ailment.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
53. If there was any violence there would have been arrests or at least a law suit against
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:43 PM
May 2016

the perpetrators.

There was no violence.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
23. He's equally hard on Republicans and Democrats
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:27 PM
May 2016

It's not like he plays games for anyone. He's quite fair. Get a grip.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
57. Not lately, and if you read Ralston, you know it.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:45 PM
May 2016

He's jumped the shark on this issue - he's so opposed to Sanders he'll say anything. And has.

Responsible journalists don't tweet crap without proof.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
36. He was wrong
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:31 PM
May 2016

Video of the chair incident was posted here. A guy picked up a chair and stood with it over his head. Someone next to him calmly took the chair out of his hands and he got a hug. The whole thing was recorded. I don't know who Ralston is, but he didn't report it acurately.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
66. Ralston is a veteran Nevada journo
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:47 PM
May 2016

usually with good street cred. But, people do occasionally make mistakes. My experience is he is pretty straight.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
51. The standards for sources of info has hit a new low
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:43 PM
May 2016

"No reason to lie", isn't a valid defense of questionable sources of information. It's fact because of your belief that he wouldn't lie, despite having multiple videos that contradict his word? Hmm, maybe I'm going about this wrong. Chairs were not thrown This is a Fact, take my word, I have no reason to lie!

Snarkoleptic

(6,005 posts)
96. Catapult the propaganda!
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

I'm astonished that the "thrown chair" is such a focus, in light of the mischief of the party chair.
Here's the video, chair up, chair down, hug. Pretty scary moment.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bernie4People/status/732619789424832512/video/1

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
97. He lied several times that night and was corrected by the people
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:04 AM
May 2016

he lied about!

He lied enough that I no longer consider him a reliable source on anything and I'm a former reporter.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
2. reports from people who were there support you
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:15 PM
May 2016

MSM has twisted this to their own purposes -- certainly not reporting.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
5. The NYT disagrees with you. So does the AP. So does Harry Reid.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:18 PM
May 2016

So does the Nation. So does Jon Ralston. So does WP.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
6. And yet not a single pic or video. I am willing to believe this, given who is involved
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

but I dont see it.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
9. There's video of someone needing medical attention.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

There's video of someone picking up a chair, with intent to throw it (he wasn't stretching) until someone else stopped him. And there's plenty of video of what can only be described as an angry mob.

I don't know who all those different journals spoke to, but apparently it was enough for all of them to decide to publish it. And Jon Ralston, respected reporter, said he saw it. It's hard to dismiss all of that simply because you haven't seen a video of an actual airborne chair.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
26. I do, of course. I don't think anyone except for Bernie can talk any sense into
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:28 PM
May 2016

his most ardent supporters.

The game of giving token non-factual concessions doesn't work. Hard core Bernie people believe that there's been election fraud in half the states that Bernie lost. Are we just going to say "fine, yeah, it's true, Hillary intentionally knocked people off voter registrations all over the country" in the hope that that will placate them?

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
103. When the missiles are flying, will you still be arguing with me about this? Or do you NOT
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:32 AM
May 2016

think that crazy, narcissist sociopath is capable of this?

kcr

(15,399 posts)
100. Look. There was an angry mob. Injured people. Video of a man angrily picking up a chair
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

who had to be physically subdued. People claiming they saw chairs thrown. Those who claim that video evidence is needed under these circumstances seem to be the ones in denial. I don't know if chairs were thrown because I wasn't there, but it sure doesn't seem impossible to me, given the evidence that exists.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
39. the person needing medical attention had a seizure.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

I watched it in real time. He had a seizure.

And Ralston did not say he saw an airborne chair. Did NOT.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
49. Ralston reported thrown chairs. Roberta Lange just confirmed it on Hardball.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:40 PM
May 2016

Multiple different journals reported it. I have no idea how that person got to need medical attention, but there is no doubt that there was violence.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
54. I don't believe Lange.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:44 PM
May 2016

I would believe video.

With ALL the video that was taken that evening of the fuss, there WOULD be video of airborne chair if it happened.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
40. Two people fainted. And no it is not hard to dismiss. There are dozens of videos available and not
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:33 PM
May 2016

ONE depicts any violence or chairs thrown.

It is blatant lies like these that make me doubt that threatening phone calls came from Bernie supporters.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
48. Many journals independently reported thrown chairs.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:39 PM
May 2016

Roberta Lange just confirmed on Hardball that there were indeed thrown chairs, and death threats were made even at the convention.

Only the most hardened conspiracy theorists think this is some David Brock thing.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
72. And you know this because you were simultaneously in all the newsrooms.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

Or wait, no you weren't. But you don't need to be in a newsroom to know what happened, because of the conspiracy.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
61. Of course there are many photos of the sinking, the lifeboats, the rescues and there is in fact
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:46 PM
May 2016

a brief, terrible moving image of the ship going down. Then there is the presence of the wreck at the bottom of the sea.

In this case, there is nothing but scuttlebutt from a campaign that has claimed 'that's not Bernie in those photos' and 'Ronald Reagan was the fist AIDS Activist' among other false claims. People with that sort of track record need to show me actual proof. I don't believe a word they say. Why would I?

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
76. Seriously? That is your answer?
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:52 PM
May 2016

There weren't any video cameras on the Titanic, but in 2016 in any room with a couple of hundred people, plus the press, there are going to be dozens and dozens of video cameras.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
95. Over 5,000 cameras in that casino, name badges and IDs on everyone in that room,
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:29 AM
May 2016

cellphone cameras rolling and yet

no images of violence, no victim(s), no one arrested or detained (?)

They don't want to talk about the rule change, the bogus voice vote or the stripping of 64 delegates to win by 32 so they focus on this chair fantasy.

Does anyone really believe that someone can can assault someone else (or even a chair) in a Caesar's casino, in view of hundreds of people, security, cameras and facial ID and just walk out? It defies belief.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
8. They are trying to change the narrative away from the screaming, dictatorial bureaucrats who ran it.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

A more distasteful unpleasant party hack, you never will see:

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
11. Did the Sanders campaign finally come up with talking points
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

And they are going to dent that this actually happened?

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
30. I am open to video of violence or thrown chairs.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

I dont doubt some of that crowd is capable, but so far it is just allegations.

Show me a known, credible journalist who WAS THERE saying he or she SAW IT and I will retract.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
44. You really just said it wasn't fact. It's in your reply.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:35 PM
May 2016

I didn't need video to know Trayvon was hunted down in cold blood. I went with the evidence. There is enough evidence to throw your idea of facts into question. Shit. With Trayvon the only eye witness I needed was the guilty party himself.

I'm not saying these things did or did not happen. I'm simply saying you just put a whooping on the word fact.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
50. Yeah, I am saying you are right, the word "fact" doesnt deserve to be there, I would change
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:42 PM
May 2016

it but then nobody would know what we are talking about

I have no axe, I am a true liberal democrat who only cares about keeping the White House

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
71. I enjoy your posts.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

There is currently large amounts of info coming fast. A lot is pure bunk. Some is not. Too many unverified stories on both sides.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
35. And the threats are a crime, and there should be a record of the calls, etc. so police should be
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:31 PM
May 2016

involved.

And the individuals responsible should ABSOLUTELY be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and in the process we can find out who they are...


and which campaign- if any- they are affiliated with.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
42. Isn't it nice we have something to talk about tonight other than the primary results coming out of
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:33 PM
May 2016

Oregon?

Gee, I wonder who internal polling says is going to win there.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
45. President Obama just condemned the violence.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:35 PM
May 2016

You think the WH didn't verify that there was violence before he made a statement?

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
62. He used those words?
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:46 PM
May 2016

Here is what was said and not directly by my wonderful President



“The president on a number of occasions has spoken out against violence and has certainly said a political dispute like this can never be used to justify violence or a threat of violence,” White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters.



So he left open a threat, vs actual.

He is right again,

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
73. No, I mean how would you characterise the WH statement?
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

Do you not think that's condemning the violence at the convention?

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
77. They were careful to say violence or THREAT of...So that makes more sense to me.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:52 PM
May 2016

There appears to have been a clear threat of violence after the meeting with phone calls.

Although they could have been made by Karl Rove operatives trying to recreate Chicago 1968

Beware of that always

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
78. Do you think all the media outlets: NYT, AP, Rolling Stone, etc, were all wrong?
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:53 PM
May 2016

I am genuinely asking, no snark.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
82. I think one reporter reported something and the rest repeat it, that is usually how it works.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:55 PM
May 2016

The point I was trying to make, was more of trying to get people to calm the fuck down, relax, regroup, etc.

I appreciate people like you who are willing to talk reasonably.

I am a Bernie voter who will pivot on a dime the instant he loses if he does and I will then support Hillary big time.

My fear is many wont do that.

If Bernie wins I dont have the same fear from Hillary supporters.

Bernie can still win, by the way so he should be allowed to stay till the end.

What I dont want is a contested convention, which will almost certainly result in 1968 all over again.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
83. I am a Hillary supporter who would vote for Bernie with joy in heart
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:58 PM
May 2016

should he become the nominee. I don't like him, but literally any Democrat, or honestly the ficus plant in the corner of this room, is better than any Republican. We are in accord.

 

ciaobaby

(1,000 posts)
56. This whole conversation is out of control
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:45 PM
May 2016

The Hillary team plans on bringing the party together so as to rely on Bernie's voters.
And yet her people don't seem to have gotten the message. The DNC and DWS seem to be working directly against their candidate in this regard.
Wonder how Hillary got those high negative numbers?
As for the phone calls, no one knows who made the call and it is not fair to make assumptions.
And then there is Wendell Pierce - but no - keep walking - nothing here to see. Right.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
59. Video of "chair throwing" --
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:45 PM
May 2016

Second video down on the site, action starts at approximately 4.40. As you will see, at NO TIME was a chair "thrown".

http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/nevada-democratic-convention-raw-video-videos-full-replay-sanders-delegates-election-fraud-jason-llanes-periscope-youtube/

Also, the video that Mother Jones used to illustrate a "fight broke out" at the convention shows no such thing, only someone lying on the ground near the stage barrier. No evidence of any physical altercation taking place.



There were cameras EVERYWHERE at this event -- I have yet to see ANY video of this alleged violence that took place.

As to the social media and personal messages that are being shown, I have no idea if those are INDEED Sanders supporters but, if they are, there is no place for that kind of behavior.

Eko

(7,864 posts)
65. The absence of evidence is not evidence.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:47 PM
May 2016

That being said there was some dude with a chair over his head, that looked a bit violent.

lapfog_1

(29,458 posts)
102. Guilty of a thought crime!
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

Because holding a chair in one's hands is the exact equivalent of throwing it at someone.

I'll remember that the next time someone in a restaurant moves a chair.

Hopefully it will be in a "stand your ground" state where I can defend myself from such acts of violence by pulling out my glock and shooting the person holding the chair.

Really, you need to sign up with the nearest police force given your uncanny and supernatural ability to perceive violent acts before they happen.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
86. The absence of video evidence
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016

in a room containing hundreds, possibly thousands of people, including the press, with I would guess about half possessing phones with video cameras is extraordinary. In this case, the absence of evidence is damned compelling.

Also, the obligation to provide evidence is upon the person/people making the claim.

All I have seen is video of someone who is on the floor and a call for medical assistance, and one guy picking up a chair, holding it over his head, then having the chair taken from him.

Where are the police reports? Where are the 911 calls?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
80. If phone calls of that nature were placed, I expect to see police reports and arrests as that
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:54 PM
May 2016

is criminal, to threaten people. This is not appropriate to deal with criminal matters outside the proper channels, to go to the press instead of the police, to seek to smear a group of persons rather than to seek to apprehend the criminals.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
87. That's probably a lie as well
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:01 PM
May 2016

Following the lead of their candidate, the far right doubles and triples down on their lies at every step.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
84. Are you trying to tell me that Hillarians are lying?
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:58 PM
May 2016
Impossible!



They will do anything to keep from discussing issues.

choie

(4,288 posts)
88. It's just fucking unbelievable
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:06 PM
May 2016

There's video all over the place - people with cell phones etc and there is NO video of chairs etc being thrown, but The press, Lange and the White House claim that there was violence even though police was there and didn't have to make a move. and who do DUets believe? The press, Lange and the White House and NOT the evidence...

And Lange comes out with recordings of threatening voicemail who she claims were from Bernie supporters without any evidence. If they are so concerned, the authorities should trace the calls and start arresting people.

choie

(4,288 posts)
94. Nice try- but
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:10 AM
May 2016

that person lifting the chair didn't throw it - he put it down. Still no video evidence of chairs being thrown. Trying to "catapult the propaganda" huh?

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
90. Big of you to admit it.
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:18 PM
May 2016

And it does remain a fact that many of us are fed up with establishment bullshit and dirty tricks. But the only threat I'm willing to make personally is to take my vote elsewhere.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
101. So picking up a chair and threatening to throw it
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:00 AM
May 2016

and having to have people talk you out of that isn't showing violence?

Really?
Go try that in a restaurant to go try that at the police station with an officer I bet you'd be arrested for assault.

Ah but I forgot... #freepassgorBerniessupporters

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