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Mon May 16, 2016, 04:02 PM

I feel I should introduce some research on the candidates records, I hope this is the proper forum

A warning to all Democrats.
There is a myth going around that Hillary Clinton has more experience, I intend to shatter that illusion as it is not true, nor is it true (as some have "misspoken" that he accomplished little to nothing during his career in public service.

[center][font size="3"; color="8B0000"]He has always caucused with the Democrats, he is more a Democrat than most in the party regarding issues[/font][/center]

An independent in name only in many ways

He caucused with the Democrats for, 16 years in the United States House of Representatives, 10 years in the United States Senate;

where he served on many committees Representing the Democratic party such as the:

Committee on the Budget (Ranking Member)
Committee on Environment and Public Works
Subcommittee on Clean Air and Nuclear Safety
Subcommittee on Green Jobs and the New Economy
Subcommittee on Transportation and Infrastructure
Committee on Energy and Natural Resources
Subcommittee on Energy
Subcommittee on National Parks
Subcommittee on Water and Power
Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Subcommittee on Children and Families
Subcommittee on Primary Health and Aging (Ranking Member)
Committee on Veterans' Affairs (chairman)

He has every right to expect respect from those he served with such loyalty and in so many capacities.
The Democratic party must consider him a true blue ally to have given him seats on so many committees.

He was also a co-founder of the Democratic Progressive caucus.

It appears to me the only one's that are offended by his former Independent status are all the Moderate Republicans that are far less honest and register as "Democrats" while voting for Republican policy, those "Democrats" are most often both conservative and liars

He has done a great many good things for the Democratic party that they could not take credit for without him!

The following is a list of every substantive bill and amendment Sanders sponsored from the floor of Congress that became law (substantive meaning legislation renaming post offices is not included). Many of the roll-call amendments he passed with majority approval — like limiting the federal government’s ability to spy on people’s library records — were removed from bills when the House and Senate negotiated over the final legislative text and did not become law.

Because the list is derived from Congress’ official database of floor actions, it does not include achievements like his insertion of funding for veterans health care into an Iraq war spending bill because that occurred off of the House floor while the bill was in conference. Nor does the list include what is perhaps his most significant achievement — providing health care to an additional 10 million mostly low-income Americans by getting Senate majority leader Harry Reid to add $11 billion in funding for community health centers that provide care regardless of a person’s ability to pay to the 2010 Affordable Care Act in exchange for Sanders rallying liberal Democrats who were considering voting against the bill once conservative Democrats removed the public option.

Those who mistakenly believe that a President Sanders would be powerless in the face of a hostile Republican Congress should bear in mind that he managed to pass these bills and amendments in spite of Republican control of both the House (1995-2006) and the presidency (2001-2008). Furthermore, it was Republicans in the House and Senate who compromised with him (not the other way around) on major veterans legislation in 2014. His original bill expanding services for veterans and fixing the scandal-ridden Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) cost $17.3 billion. The price tag of the final compromise bill? $16.3 billion.

H.R.4206 (Cancer Registries Amendment Act) enacted as S. 3312 (Cancer Registries Amendment Act).

H.Amdt. 98 to H.R. 665 (Victims of Justice Act of 1995)

H.Amdt. 210 to H.R. 830 (Paperwork Reduction Act of 1995)

H.Amdt. 1203 to H.R. 3666 Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 1997

H.J.Res.129 enacted as S.J.Res.38 (A joint resolution granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact)

H.Amdt.174 to H.R.1757 (Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998)

H.Amdt.267 to H.R.2160 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1998)

H.Amdt.289 to H.R.2266 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 1998) -- National Guard Starbase program

H.Amdt.368 to H.R.2378 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 1998) -- Prohibit funds for the U.S. Customs Office from being used to allow the importation into the U.S. any material mined, produced, or manufactured by forced or indentured child labor.

H.Amdt.388 to H.R.2267 (Departments of Commerce, Justice, and State, the Judiciary, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1998)

H.Amdt.569 to H.R.6 (Higher Education Amendments of 1998)

H.Amdt.614 to H.R.3694 (Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1999) -- Reduce the intelligence budget for fiscal year 1999 by 5% with an exemption for the CIA Retirement and Disability Fund.

H.Amdt.626 to H.R.10 (Financial Services Act of 1998) -- Require the Comptroller General to report to Congress regarding the efficacy and benefits of uniformly limiting any commissions, fees, markups, or other costs incurred by customers in the acquisition of financial products.

H.Amdt.706 to H.R.4101 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1999) -- Increase funding for nutrition programs for senior citizens by $10 million

H.Amdt.708 to H.R.4103 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 1999) -- Prohibit funding to be used to enter into or renew a contract with any company owned, or partially owned, by the People’s Republic of China or the People’s Liberation Army of the People’s Republic of China.

H.Amdt.724 to H.R.4104 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 1999) enacted as H.R. 2490 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 2000) -- National Archives and Records Administration improvements

H.Amdt.127 to H.R.1906 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000)

H.Amdt.136 to H.R.1906 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) -- national pilot program to promote agritourism

H.Amdt.258 to H.R.2466 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) enacted as H.R.3194 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2000) -- deficit reduction; and reduces fossil energy research and development funding

H.Amdt.442 to H.R.2684 (Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) -- health care services for veterans in rural areas

H.Amdt.791 to H.R.4577 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2001) -- (relating to the availability to the public of an invention and its benefits on reasonable terms)

H.Amdt.818 to H.R.4578 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2001) -- weatherization assistance and energy conservation programs and reduce fossil fuel energy research and development programs

H.Amdt.238 to H.R.2590 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 2002) -- Prohibit the importation of goods made by forced or indentured child labor.

H.Amdt.376 to H.R.3061 (Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2002) -- relating to the availability to the public of an invention and its benefits on reasonable terms

H.Amdt.404 to H.R.3338 (Department of Defense and Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Recovery from and Response to Terrorist Attacks on the United States Act, 2002) -- Provide $100 million for federally qualified community health centers.

H.Amdt.255 to H.R.2691 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2004) -- Increase funding for weatherization assistance grants

H.Amdt.336 to H.R.2861 (Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 2004) enacted as H.R.2673 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2004) -- Prohibit the use of funds in the bill to implement any policy prohibiting the Directors of the Veterans Integrated Service Networks from conducting outreach or marketing to enroll new veterans within their respective networks.

S.Amdt.737 to H.R.1591 (U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007) -- fund weatherization assistance program

S.Amdt.1515 to H.R.6 (Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007) -- Establish an energy efficiency and renewable energy worker training program

S.Amdt.1525 to H.R.6 (Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007) -- use of solar hot water heaters in certain Federal buildings

S.Amdt.4384 to H.R.3221 (Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008) -- Increase specially adapted housing benefits for disabled veterans.

S.Amdt.1658 to S.1390 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010) -- re child care available to deployed members of the reserve components of the Armed Forces

S.Amdt.2271 to H.R.2997 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2010) -- funds for the school community garden pilot program

S.Amdt.2601 to H.R.3326 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2010) -- veteran outreach and reintegration services

S.Amdt.3738 to S.3217 (Restoring American Financial Stability Act of 2010) -- let the American people know the names of the recipients of over $2 trillion in taxpayer assistance from the Federal Reserve System

S.Amdt.306 to H.R.1 (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009) -- Require recipients of TARP funding to meet strict H-1B worker hiring standard to ensure non-displacement of U.S. workers

S.Amdt.1658 to S.1390 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010) -- report to Congress on financial assistance for child care available to deployed members of the reserve components of the Armed Forces.

S.Amdt.4280 to H.R.4899 (Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2010) -- make publicly available the contractor integrity performance database established under the Clean Contracting Act of 2008

S.2450 (Veterans’ Access to Care through Choice, Accountability, and Transparency Act of 2014) enacted as H.R.3230 (Veterans Access, Choice, and Accountability Act of 2014) -- VA reform bill

S.893 (Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013) -- increase rates of veterans’ disability compensation, additional compensation for dependents, etc.

S.Amdt.2146 to S.1471 (Alicia Dawn Koehl Respect for National Cemeteries Act) – re interring the remains and honoring the memory of a person in a national cemetery

[font size="3" ; color="8B0000"]Also, compare her record to his perhaps you will gain an understanding of her right wing infiltration into the party[/font]

The Right Wing meme been spread here often appears to be that even with all his years of public service, a progressive like Bernie Sanders was too far to the left to accomplish anything, being a former Independent and all.

That one has to be able to find the buypartisan way, in other words, adopt the least offensive GOP legislation as your own if you wish to accomplish anything, if one is not a member of the Republican party itself.

The problem with this bullshit GOP meme is that it is completely false, he's actually one of the most effective members of Congress, passing bills, of all sizes and shapes, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care.

[center][font size=3"]The Amendment King[/font][/center]

....Congress is not known to be a progressive institution lately, to say the least. Over the past few decades, the House of Representatives was only controlled by the Democrats from 2007 to 2010, and a flood of corporate money has quieted the once-powerful progressive movement that passed legislation moving the country forward between the New Deal era and the Great Society. Yet, as difficult as it may be to believe, a socialist from Vermont is one of its most accomplished members. ....

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....Sanders did something particularly original, which was that he passed amendments that were exclusively progressive, advancing goals such as reducing poverty and helping the environment, and he was able to get bipartisan coalitions of Republicans who wanted to shrink government or hold it accountable and progressives who wanted to use it to empower Americans.

Here are a few examples of the amendments Sanders passed by building unusual but effective coalitions:....


[font color="red"]Much more, but due to the three paragraph rule you will have to follow this link[/font]
I dare those that pretend the GOP meme is true and are spreading it for them, to read the article!

There are so many examples in fact that you really need to read the entire article as it completely dispels this current Right Wing myth that Bernie Sanders after all his time in Congress achieved almost nothing, when in fact he was literally one of the most effective members of Congress! Read the facts in the article itself, clearly the GOP is spreading lies about him, after all, who besides Rove and the GOP would use such lying sleazy bullshit tactics against someone that helped Democrats get as much progressive policy put into effect during his tenure?...


[font size="3"][center]Robert Reich, Clinton Secretary of Labor, on Bernie's effectiveness in Congress[/font][/center]



Lets Compare Hillary Clinton's commitment and "Democratic" values accomplished by way of comparison.

Not to say Hillary Clinton did not achieve some things during her six year hobby involved in legislating (the last two were spent campaigning and fundraising)

She managed to vote for the Patriot Act, for an illegal war, and even whip some votes with her passionate selling of the Bush/Cheney lies. (she deserves some credit for that,) and those of you that enjoy war should be and are rightfully quite proud of that.

As a Senator Clinton did get some things accomplished, Clinton sponsored three bills that became law: S.3145, S.3613, and S.1241. The first of these renamed a highway in New York state, the second renamed a post office in New York City, and the third established the Kate Mullany National Historic Site in Troy, New York and authorized funding to set the site up.

To be truly fair, she also tried to put an end to the epidemic of flag burning and ban some media, but these, her most favorite things were too hard for her to get done, she just couldn't get them passed, she may have lacked the chops to do it, but BUT SHE TRIED REAL HARD!

The United States Family Entertainment Protection Act (FEPA) was a bill introduced by Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and co-sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman (D-CT), Tim Johnson (D-SD) and Evan Bayh (D-IN) on November 29, 2005. The bill called for a federal mandate enforcement of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ratings.

Unsuccessfully unfortunately for the more puritan among us, sigh, if only she were more effective at passing such laws, we would finally be safe from cluster bombs, eerr.. I mean f-bombs (she voted against ending the use of child killing cluster bombs, my "misspeak" or my bad, if you prefer) she likes cluster bombs, so much so that after some donations to very, very, special charity, she made sure as SoS to sell cluster bombs to those altruistic rulers of Saudi Arabia! She deserves credit for that!

The kids just love playing with those rather than video games.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/03/13/cluster-bombs-are-not-good-children-hillary

Speaking of her only other "superior experience" on her resume'

Lets review her tenure as Secretary of state, great experience! for a neocon war hawk, she deserves huge credit for that!



She is basically a moderate Republican that Registered as a Democrat
He was Basically an FDR Democrat that Registered as an Independent (likely because he did not want to be identified with the ever increasing Right Wing infiltration and taint of such an anti worker "modern" party.

Yet he still voted and enacted more Democratic amendments and laws than most DLC Democrats would even dream of or even want to (their priority instead since the early nineties being largely deregulation of banks, corporations and everything else under the sun, privatization of as much of the commons as possible, media consolidation and Corporatization, safety net shredding welfare destruction, and tough on mostly minority crimes involving possession of weed and other substances to grow the prison industrial complex beyond anything seen in even China or North Korea.

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Reply I feel I should introduce some research on the candidates records, I hope this is the proper forum (Original post)
Dragonfli May 2016 OP
grasswire May 2016 #1
riversedge May 2016 #2
Dragonfli May 2016 #5
Name removed May 2016 #10
Dragonfli May 2016 #12
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Electric Monk May 2016 #15
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Octafish May 2016 #28
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questionseverything May 2016 #50
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grasswire May 2016 #8
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Scootaloo May 2016 #23
Hydra May 2016 #47
Jackilope May 2016 #24
nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #25
polly7 May 2016 #44
cui bono May 2016 #52
frylock May 2016 #55
RufusTFirefly May 2016 #3
brooklynite May 2016 #19
RufusTFirefly May 2016 #27
brooklynite May 2016 #29
RufusTFirefly May 2016 #34
brooklynite May 2016 #36
RufusTFirefly May 2016 #37
brooklynite May 2016 #41
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Iwillnevergiveup May 2016 #16
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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:05 PM

1. excellent work~

thanks so much, dragonfl

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:07 PM

2. Yesterday you said your good byes to DU and here you are again. Unicorns and magic

fairy dust rides again.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:10 PM

5. Don't worry this is my last post, and it is rather petty of you to insult me without provocation /nt

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Mon May 16, 2016, 04:17 PM

12. I post because the truth needs to be told, if it is hidden there is no rule justifying such

logging out now, goodbye.

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Mon May 16, 2016, 04:27 PM

15. Registered yesterday, but you sure seem awfully familiar. I'm pretty sure I'm speaking with a zombie

 

nt

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Mon May 16, 2016, 04:49 PM

26. They do not shamble around though

 

but they are rude

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Response to Name removed (Reply #10)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:51 PM

28. You've been on DU 22 hours and you're dumping on a longtime DUer?

LOL.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #5)

Tue May 17, 2016, 12:38 PM

50. dragon...don't let the bullies run you off

your ops and comments are always spot on

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:12 PM

6. Stay classy!

 

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:13 PM

8. nice, really nice

Classy, too.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:13 PM

9. What an infantile comment. You clearly didn't even read the post.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:17 PM

13. But is this true?

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:44 PM

23. What motivates all that hate, Riversedge?

 

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #23)

Mon May 16, 2016, 11:49 PM

47. It's the "Love and Kindness" they are trying to spread n/t

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:46 PM

24. I am glad to see Dragonfli post

Given harrassing messages and stalking, plus the excessive alerts -- which no powers that be here care to address or prevent the stalking and bullying -- it is an act of courage.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:49 PM

25. Why do you insult people?

 

anything you gain from it?

(Bullying I know)

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Mon May 16, 2016, 08:11 PM

44. Bullying is so unattractive.

I hope Dragonfli will reconsider and be back very soon, but completely understand why they wouldn't find this place 'home' anymore. I've said my goodbyes a few times and changed my mind - that's allowed. It's none of your concern what Dragonfli does.

Where's your star? Don't you support this site? Takes some gall to try to drive away others that always have, and have played a huge part in contributing so much information valued by so many.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Tue May 17, 2016, 01:33 PM

52. Aw, you're so sweet!

Did you bother to stop and think about whether you should post that?

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Tue May 17, 2016, 05:00 PM

55. The thought of James Comey astride a galloping unicorn scares the shit out of you.

Admit it.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:08 PM

3. To be qualified, Bernie needs to sponsor coups and laugh about dead dictators

Nothing less will suffice, I'm afraid.


This is America, Dude. Learn the rules!

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #3)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:34 PM

19. Getting more votes might help...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #19)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:50 PM

27. Brilliant! You rig the system to win and have the chutzpah to brag about it

What's truly impressive is the way the extent to which Sanders has been able to overcome most of the inequitable road blocks thrown in his way.

If this fight weren't utterly fixed, Hillary Clinton would've lost a long time ago. What's amazing is that even when she's given an extraordinary number of unfair advantages (SuperPACs, super delegates, a rigged debate schedule, a full-time, well-financed propaganda wing, and more), she's still struggling!

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #27)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:53 PM

29. I stand squarely with Bernie Sanders on the issue of voter suppression...

He hasn't filed a complaint on any outcome (except joining the DNC lawsuit in Arizona) so I'll assume he doesn't have an issue with them.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #29)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:03 PM

34. Your concern is truly inspiring



Remember "Sore Loserman"? Bernie is picking his battles. We're already getting all sorts of flak suggesting that Sanders is a poor sport and unwilling to face reality. I suspect that with the prospect of winning a number of upcoming primaries that he doesn't want to generate a distraction that would interfere with the grassroots galvanization and good feeling that could lead to those victories.

Also, let me stress that there is nothing technically illegal with most (most!) of what the Clinton campaign has done. It just shines a very harsh light on an entrenched, undemocratic system that is designed to limit the choices of the electorate to candidates that the elite (hint, hint) approves of.

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #34)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:08 PM

36. Ok, Sanders isn't launching a challenge of voter suppression because Clinton might say something mea

...and I note that "picking his battles" appears to be none of them.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #36)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:18 PM

37. We live in an environment where a guy who can't hear himself over a crowd

... is painted as some sort of angry maniac.



Heaven knows how they'd spin Bernie's objections. That's the kind of climate that he must contend with.

And, quite frankly, even though he was caricatured (laughably) as some sort of angry leftist, Dean (as we've seen) was never the sort of threat to the status quo that Bernie is.

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #37)

Mon May 16, 2016, 06:46 PM

41. So it's okay for Sanders to yell for an hour about Wall Street...



..but calmly filing a legal challenge to support voting rights is over the top?

BTW - if you're interested in foregoing your conspiracy theory, here's a thoughtful analysis of the Dean Scream:

And just an observation, Dean's campaign was already crashing and "berning" before the cream occurred.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:10 PM

4. Great post! The facts are too painful for the Hillary fans.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:12 PM

7. K & R

Thanks for giving me a chance to recommend this again!

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:14 PM

11. It is the proper forum, and it is a very proper, valuable, informative post. Thanks. KNR

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:29 PM

16. Dragonfli

You have always been a thoughtful, informative contributor on DU. I APPRECIATE YOU!

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Response to Iwillnevergiveup (Reply #16)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:30 PM

40. may I second that




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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:31 PM

17. Thank you. K&R

 

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:34 PM

18. Excellent work, Dragonfli

 

Thank you for your informative, insightful posts. Really - thank you!

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:35 PM

20. There's a reason people were rude to you about this OP.

 

A hit dog hollers.

Excellent summary.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:43 PM

22. K&R

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:53 PM

30. K&R

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:54 PM

31. 25 YEARS in Congress and this is it? If he is so experienced,

qualified and liked, where are the endorsements from his colleagues and former colleagues? Most of whom have endorsed Clinton.

If Sanders was a Senator from New York on Sept. 11, 2001, what would have been his response? Truth is he had a safe seat in VT and never had to make a tough vote.

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Response to livetohike (Reply #31)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:57 PM

32. because unfortunately money holds this country hostage, that's why we never get things done

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Response to livetohike (Reply #31)

Mon May 16, 2016, 10:26 PM

45. "If Sanders was a Senator from New York on Sept. 11, 2001, what would have been his response?"

Those who represented New York in the wake of 9/11 owed it to their constituents -- more than any other members of congress -- to speak truth to power and stand up against a bogus case for war that had nothing to do with 9/11.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:04 PM

35. K&R

Well done. Thank you once again.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:21 PM

38. Excellent OP!

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:25 PM

39. Outstanding work, Dragonfli, thank you!

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Mon May 16, 2016, 07:35 PM

42. Wow. Awesome OP, Dragonfli.

Kudos to you for putting this all together. It should be required reading for all those who claimed he's accomplished nothing. It always made me sad seeing that said here ... I've watched the videos and seen him so passionate and knowledgeable and always, always fighting hard for people.

I still wish you could clone him and send one on up.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 08:04 PM

43. K&R&bookmark

 

Thanks for compiling and presenting this valuable information. The kind of post that makes DU worthwhile.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 10:54 PM

46. still here, I see.

 

Just another Bernie day with just another Bernie supporter saying one thing and doing another.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #46)

Tue May 17, 2016, 05:06 PM

56. Just another Hillary supporter obsessing on another Bernie supporter.

I mean, I get it, man. You're candidate sucks so much that all you have is to bag on Sanders supporters.

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Response to frylock (Reply #56)

Tue May 17, 2016, 05:16 PM

57. yet here you are again, following me around and responding to many of my posts

 

...who has the obsession?

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #57)

Tue May 17, 2016, 05:19 PM

58. Following you around?

I don't even know who the fuck you are. Have I replied to you in past?

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Response to frylock (Reply #58)

Tue May 17, 2016, 05:21 PM

59. don't be mad bros.....just quit responding to me on multiple threads...it's all good. n/t

 

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #59)

Tue May 17, 2016, 05:24 PM

60. The fuck are you talking about?

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:50 AM

48. K&R Awesome -- Bookmarked! Your Contributions Are Needed Here!

Dragonfli, Thank You so much. But, please stay!

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:52 AM

49. Thank you. nt

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 01:02 PM

51. Thanks, bookmarking!

 

Stick around, won'tcha?

--imm

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:44 PM

53. Beautiful research. Too bad they don't care.

 

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 04:03 PM

54. Bless you Dragonfli! Be well! K&R, nt.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:16 AM

61. This needs to be framed. . . a piece of art. . . .K&R

 

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