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Mon May 16, 2016, 02:59 PM

 

Violence is NOT an acceptable part of the political discourse. Can we at least agree on this?

This means

No throwing of chairs
No threatening of congressman
No leaving of death treats

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Reply Violence is NOT an acceptable part of the political discourse. Can we at least agree on this? (Original post)
hill2016 May 2016 OP
lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #1
NWCorona May 2016 #2
cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #3
fun n serious May 2016 #6
pmorlan1 May 2016 #4
One Black Sheep May 2016 #5
fun n serious May 2016 #7
One Black Sheep May 2016 #10
timmymoff May 2016 #17
lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #13
Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #8
NCTraveler May 2016 #18
Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #19
hellofromreddit May 2016 #9
Prism May 2016 #11
grasswire May 2016 #12
AgingAmerican May 2016 #14
grasswire May 2016 #15
NCTraveler May 2016 #16

Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:02 PM

1. I'd agree that it's to be avoided. n/t

 

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:04 PM

2. And no men hitting women either.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:04 PM

3. How about grabbing a woman by the hair and smacking her around at 3:30 in the morning?

 

Not a word about that, natch.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #3)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:09 PM

6. It's NOT OK and he should be in Jail!

 

No question, no matter who he supports!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:09 PM

4. Don't Forget

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:09 PM

5. As a general rule, but there are exceptions. Remember what Kennedy said



We wouldn't have the United States without the violent revolution that was fought.

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Response to One Black Sheep (Reply #5)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:11 PM

7. Sanders lost

 

there is no revolution left. If you try to force it, you're undemocratic.

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Response to fun n serious (Reply #7)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:15 PM

10. My post was in response to whether violence is ever acceptable as part of a political

movement, if it wasn't, then all dictators and totalitarian governments would never have anything to fear from the people.

I believe Kennedy's quote is right on target, in other words.

Why you jumped to the Sanders campaign is bizarre.

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Response to fun n serious (Reply #7)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:02 PM

17. Do you think it was only about an election

 

oh another miscue from both camp weathervane and her supporters. We will let you who aren't participating when the revolution is over. Again, for those quite thick , WE Will Let You Know When Our Movement (revolution) Is Over. Thank you in advance.

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Response to One Black Sheep (Reply #5)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:28 PM

13. The point of this country is the consent of the governed.

 

The mechanisms by which that consent might be withdrawn are:
1) elections
2) revolt

It may seem cute and clever at the time to simply refuse to honor the wishes of those participating in those elections. In that case, sidewalk chalk should be the least of your concerns.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:11 PM

8. Violence should not be acceptable anywhere.

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #8)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:04 PM

18. Not enough pacifists out there. I am not one but the more around the better.

 



I hope you take that in the kindness that was meant.

I have made a number of references to the fact we have so many people in this country and don't even have a damn pacifist, much less a dove, running for the Presidency. I think that is really messed up.

Yes, I get the irony of a Clinton supporter saying that.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #18)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:22 PM

19. I blame the Marine Corps for my pacifism.

 

At a certain point in my 4 years I became convinced that killing people based on some big shot's orders wasn't something I wanted to do when I realized that it was real people they were referring to. People I didn't know, had nothing against, and might even like as friends.

That's when I started questioning the purpose of killing and violence and found the answers disturbing.

Sometimes, when I tell people that I'm a pacifist I'm confronted with the "what if..?" questions. What if the Russians invaded America? What if a burglar was trying to rape your wife? etc. And, I give the only honest answer that anyone can give to a hypothetical. "I don't know."

“What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy of liberty or democracy?”
Mohandas K. Gandhi

I appreciate your kindness and take it in just that way.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:13 PM

9. Also no vote rigging.

 

Instigating a fight is starting a fight, and both kids still earn detention.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:16 PM

11. But slapping women in the face is ok and joke-worthy

 

Why is the abuse of women not at the top of these lists we're suddenly getting.

Remember, feminism?

It's that thing that gets thrown around when, I dunno, the sun rises in the East over a Hillary campaign.

Y'all want to go back and read about it or something

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:25 PM

12. I have yet to see any documentation of chair throwing.

video?
link?

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Response to grasswire (Reply #12)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:29 PM

14. These sort of accusations come from tweets

 

Which is just another way of saying they are bullshit.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #14)

Mon May 16, 2016, 03:57 PM

15. AH!!!

Well, no wonder then.

Bogus. If there were really chair throwing, someone would have video of it, for sure.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 04:01 PM

16. I love to agree with you, not sure I can on this one.

 

Like the military, I think all options should be left on the table for politics.

Dammit. Did I just say that. lol

Then again, I have also been known to support riots.

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