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Thu May 12, 2016, 01:06 PM

 

WHY Do You SUPPORT Bernie Sanders?




Bernie Sanders wants to bring people together, and does, even in red state Montana. Standing in line is no one's favorite thing to do but many did, with patience and giddy anticipation, to witness his rally in Billings.


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Reply WHY Do You SUPPORT Bernie Sanders? (Original post)
Segami May 2016 OP
Segami May 2016 #1
Art_from_Ark May 2016 #36
Smarmie Doofus May 2016 #2
Ferd Berfel May 2016 #3
anotherproletariat May 2016 #21
Ferd Berfel May 2016 #30
TheFarseer May 2016 #37
anotherproletariat May 2016 #38
Post removed May 2016 #50
merrily May 2016 #64
anotherproletariat May 2016 #71
puffy socks May 2016 #58
anotherproletariat May 2016 #69
puffy socks May 2016 #70
Faux pas May 2016 #4
jpmonk91 May 2016 #5
Chantel May 2016 #6
JudyM May 2016 #7
Rebkeh May 2016 #8
colsohlibgal May 2016 #9
baldguy May 2016 #33
MgtPA May 2016 #10
Baitball Blogger May 2016 #11
Joob May 2016 #12
B Calm May 2016 #13
Thirties Child May 2016 #14
Rass May 2016 #15
Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #16
Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #17
Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #19
Armstead May 2016 #55
felix_numinous May 2016 #18
Kalidurga May 2016 #20
Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #22
womanofthehills May 2016 #23
2cannan May 2016 #24
cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #25
RadiationTherapy May 2016 #26
guillaumeb May 2016 #27
Kip Humphrey May 2016 #28
Art_from_Ark May 2016 #42
Octafish May 2016 #67
SamKnause May 2016 #29
Trajan May 2016 #31
oldandhappy May 2016 #32
B Calm May 2016 #34
Smarmie Doofus May 2016 #35
TheFarseer May 2016 #39
hellofromreddit May 2016 #40
riderinthestorm May 2016 #41
SDJay May 2016 #43
CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #44
pinebox May 2016 #45
B Calm May 2016 #47
tk2kewl May 2016 #46
randome May 2016 #52
tk2kewl May 2016 #59
randome May 2016 #60
tk2kewl May 2016 #62
pampango May 2016 #48
leeroysphitz May 2016 #49
Duckhunter935 May 2016 #51
cloudbase May 2016 #53
merbex May 2016 #54
Merryland May 2016 #56
Armstead May 2016 #57
dana_b May 2016 #61
Orsino May 2016 #63
Armstead May 2016 #65
Octafish May 2016 #66
Turin_C3PO May 2016 #68

Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:06 PM

1. Because Bernie truly is the People's Champ!!

 

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Response to Segami (Reply #1)

Thu May 12, 2016, 07:41 PM

36. And we don't even have to pay $2700 for the priviledge of being HIS champ

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:09 PM

2. He'll end corporate welfare "as we know it."

 

Or die trying.

If you don't know what corporate welfare is, ask Clinton. ( Either of them.)

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Response to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #2)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:09 PM

3. Point!

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Response to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #2)

Thu May 12, 2016, 03:26 PM

21. How? nt

 

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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #21)

Thu May 12, 2016, 05:24 PM

30. Doesn't have to have all of the answers right now

It's enough that I am convinced that he understands the imperative to do it, has the will and the skills to do it, and has been in DC long enough to make a real attempts at doing it. THe Fascist Elite will try to stop him of course but I believe him to be tenacious and honest enough to get it done, one way or another.

Bernie WILL fight for this and other desperately needed issues.

No other candidate in modern history has this set of qualifications on this issue.
It sure as hell isn't Clinton or Trump.

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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #21)

Thu May 12, 2016, 08:43 PM

37. Please make sure

You roll your eyes and say "how" to everything Clinton says because I doubt the republicans will trip all over themselves to help her after hating the Clintons for 25 years. Thanks!

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Response to TheFarseer (Reply #37)

Thu May 12, 2016, 08:46 PM

38. At least she has put forward reasonable plans. Honestly, I like Sanders' ideas,

 

but without any realistic strategies for implementation, it's hard to take him seriously.

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Fri May 13, 2016, 05:33 PM

71. Oh, and I'm sorry about your student loan debt.

 

Looks like your hero will lose, and you won't get the free money you were hoping for.

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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #38)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:39 AM

58. Hey

 

You got an ignore by a bernie bubble bro
to hang on your trophy wall!
Congratualtions,
All it took was a reasonable question and poof so many of his supporters heads just explode!

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Response to puffy socks (Reply #58)

Fri May 13, 2016, 12:38 PM

69. I always love an ignore...it gives me a chance for a nice long reply without having a fight!

 

To the contrary of the lovely Bro...I think it is totally reasonable to like someone's ideas, but not think they would make a good president. Most people have some sort of end goal that they would like to see achieved by our government and our leaders. By and large, those issues are similar for people on the same side of the spectrum. The real differences come in how to go about reaching those goals.

I see our government as a historically established body which was created to deal with all of the various opinions found in society. Because there will be input from those on all sides of the ideological spectrum, there is rarely ever a consensus about anything. Instead, our process allows for give and take...and yes, that dirty word for the ideologically pure Berners...compromise. Written into our constitution are specific powers of the minority, so even IF (and that is a big IF) there were to be some sort of revolution, and both houses of congress were flipped to Democratic control, a President Sanders still could not achieve all of his desires. As an example, trying to raise taxes enough to pay for these massive programs would have to be done many years before the public would ever see any advantage, since significant financing will be required to build the programs to the point where they can function. The public outcry would be like something we have never experienced before.

So yes, I think a long-term progressive goal should be universal healthcare and higher education accessible to everyone. In this way, I do agree with Sanders, BUT...I don't see that he has given any workable plans to achieve these goals (or any other of his campaign promises), and I feel that Hillary has a much better chance of moving policy towards the left.

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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #69)

Fri May 13, 2016, 01:04 PM

70. That is the way I feel, to a 'T'.

 

The first time I posted that I like Bernie's ideas but think Hillary is better qualified and has better plans to get there, I was swarmed by 7 Bernie supporters and called everything from the oh-so-original "Hillbot" to a "tired old shill for Hill" until I finally decided that site that I had been on for years just wasn't for me. That was almost a year ago.
I watched DU for a long while most people seemed reasonable and then it too devolved into the Bernie supporters swarming Hillary supporters.

This group of over zealous supporters will fade out like the T Party has. It's hard to take them seriously anymore. So, since we are waiting until the bitter end, I've devolved into heckling them now and then until the primaries are over.

I just can't help myself sometimes, their "logic" is so backwards and twisted .

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:11 PM

4. Because he is all

about Peace, Love and Joy like I am. Bernin' for Bernie!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:11 PM

5. Here is why I support Bernie

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:12 PM

6. Because he champions policies that will help our country

Such as free tuition at public colleges and

Universal health care

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:13 PM

7. Because the takeover of our government by corporate exec's must be dramatically curbed.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:13 PM

8. Because he not only knows how things work

He has a fundamental understanding of it. But that's not enough, he also has a fundamental understanding of what the problems are. We need someone that can do both, and do them well.

Nobody else up there has both knowledge and wisdom. Nobody but Bernie gets it.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:15 PM

9. Because He Is What Hillary Is Not

He is unique, not a wholly owned subsidiary of Wall Street, other giant corporations, and the permanent war/security state. Unlike Hillary he is beholden to the general public, not the plutocracy.

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Response to colsohlibgal (Reply #9)

Thu May 12, 2016, 06:09 PM

33. The leader of the "Not Hillary" Party is Donald Trump.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:19 PM

10. 'Cause FDR isn't running.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:22 PM

11. He will force everyone to up their game ethically.

Appearances will not longer be enough.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:27 PM

12. Because corporations are putting millions into politics and he wants to stop it.

Pathetic that people don't see the legalized bribery.

Hillary won't bite the hand that feeds her.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:31 PM

13. Democracy is not Free and Bernie knows who's not paying their fair share.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:35 PM

14. Because of everything he supports

The environment, single payer, no to Wall Street and big banks, peace vs warhawk, protect/expand social security. And because he's honest.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:54 PM

15. Sustainability & Alternative renewable energy

 

Natural resources are dwindling and our environment is becoming more hostile to life. There was a time when selfishness and greed wasn't so destructive to our biology. The destruction should no longer be ignored. We all need a healthy environment to thrive. A greener government is a step toward progress. I believe when government is partly responsible for its citizens' well-being and health, it will be more proactive against environmental threats. An educated populace also means having better neighbors and a prosperous community.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 02:00 PM

16. First time a presidential candidate has been closely aligned with my own views...ever.

 

That's all it would take...but he also has other huge upsides: his consistency, his honesty, his very-evident character. This is a moral person, one with deeply ingrained personal ethics...and that matters. A lot.

Moreover, in this primary, he's running against a candidate who's everything I despise about the current center-right Democratic Party.

Sanders' campaign has, at least temporarily, assuaged my "oh, just fuck it all" perspective on the shitshow American politics has become. I suspect the business-as-usual DNC crowd are likely to succeed in their herculean effort to fuck us out of that hope (and I'll revert to being an outspoken Cascadian secessionist), but it's been a lovely interlude.

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #16)

Thu May 12, 2016, 02:02 PM

17. same here

 



except I'm not sure about Canada.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #17)

Thu May 12, 2016, 02:07 PM

19. Hey, we'd take BC, for sure!

 

From Redding to Atlin...hail Cascadia!

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #19)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:35 AM

55. Can we have a corridor to New England too?

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 02:05 PM

18. Kick!!

Everyone knows why they support Bernie.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 03:14 PM

20. Because he is my political soul mate

But, I would have supported O'Malley just as much just for not being Hillary. I would have supported MS anyone but Hillary just as much as Bernie. Hillary is the worst possible candidate that could be nominated. Anyone else would have been better. I am elated we got Bernie though he is so much better than just not being Hillary he is actually the template I would have drawn up for the candidate I want to vote for.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 03:50 PM

22. He knows what to fix, and he stands up to the powers that be.

Our quality of life slid off a cliff in the last 40 years. Bernie has seen it happen too, and we all know it doesn't have to be this way.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 04:18 PM

23. Because I listened Bernie on Tom Hartman's - "Brunch with Bernie" for years

and grew to love him. I also like the fact that he is against fracking - as I had a scare with a CO2 pipeline possibly crossing my property - and I believe he is the best candidate for protecting the environment. I like his drug policy views. He is more for the people than any candidate out there. Go Bernie!!!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 04:42 PM

24. "Bernie Sanders is the kind of person who goes to bed at night thinking about

how to increase the heating-oil aid program for the poor."

snip

Bernie wasn't quite so famous at the time and the editor scratched his head. "Bernie Sanders," he said. "That's the one who cares, right?"

"Right, that's the guy," I said.

I got the go-ahead and the resulting story was a wild journey through the tortuous bureaucratic maze of our national legislature. I didn't write this at the time, but I was struck every day by what a strange and interesting figure Sanders was.

Many of the battles he brought me along to witness, he lost. And no normal politician would be comfortable with the optics of bringing a Rolling Stone reporter to a Rules Committee hearing.

But Sanders genuinely, sincerely, does not care about optics. He is the rarest of Washington animals, a completely honest person. If he's motivated by anything other than a desire to use his influence to protect people who can't protect themselves, I've never seen it. Bernie Sanders is the kind of person who goes to bed at night thinking about how to increase the heating-oil aid program for the poor.


Give 'Em Hell, Bernie
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/give-em-hell-bernie-20150429#ixzz48O5HvdPe

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 04:43 PM

25. Because I believe he speaks from his heart and not his pocketbook.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 04:45 PM

26. He represents a massive shift away from the status quo.

Clinton massively represents the status quo.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 04:46 PM

27. But Sanders is a s..............

you know, the "s" word. Hint: "s" does not stand for senior.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 05:14 PM

28. A Bernie Sanders comes along about once every 100 years. Bernie is a true transformative candidate

who is honest and authentic with a 40 year history demonstrating those qualities. Barack Obama wished to be a transformative candidate; Bernie IS a transformative candidate. Given the very real crisis we are experiencing, with a corrupt oligarchy having replaced our democracy, with the immediate crisis of global warming driving an imperative to transform our energy systems away from fossil fuels, with income inequality surpassing even that of the Gilded Age, with a corrupt criminal justice system design to oppress the citizenry (if POC), we must stop the madness and seek a new humane, just, and fair direction. So, as things go, I have waited since RFK was killed for a Bernie Sanders to come along and I will stick with and provide my small voice of support to Bernie Sanders at least until November when I will place my vote for Bernie Sanders for President - for my children and grand children.

Signed, a lifelong FDR Democrat.

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Response to Kip Humphrey (Reply #28)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:09 PM

42. Well said!

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Response to Kip Humphrey (Reply #28)

Fri May 13, 2016, 11:32 AM

67. + Infinity

Thank you for putting it into words, Kip Humphrey!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 05:19 PM

29. Bernie has earned my trust, respect, and admiration.

His vision for this country is my vision for this country.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 05:25 PM

31. Because I love my children ...

 

And because I love YOUR children as well ...

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 05:36 PM

32. tells the truth, value that, tis yuuuuge

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 06:24 PM

34. Because Predatory Capitalism needs a sprinkle of Socialism to keep it in check.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 07:40 PM

35. They were great. Billings: NYC *LOVES* Ya. nt

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 08:47 PM

39. Because

He wants to end job killing trade agreements, he does not owe big business any favors, he wants Medicare for all and he wants to overturn citizens United.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 08:54 PM

40. Campaign finance reform and the global warming fight

 

I have other reasons too, but those two are at the top.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:01 PM

41. I believe he may be our last hope on rallying international efforts on climate change.

 

And personally, I believe he's far more interested in fighting for the 99% than pretty much any other candidate ever.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:12 PM

43. Because a Sanders Presidency...

will not be four years of drama, scandals - fake or not - and impeachment hearings. But I'm getting ahead of myself. I am also convinced that he'll be a stronger candidate against that scumbag Drumpf. I don't know how much if any of his platform would ever be enacted while he's in office, but at worst he'll move the discourse in an appropriate direction and scare the shit out of the robber barons who have been absconding with our wealth for more than a generation.

Despite all of that, I'll still vote for HRC if she's the nominee as a purely defensive posture.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:46 PM

44. For the free stuff!

 

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Response to CorkySt.Clair (Reply #44)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:58 PM

45. As opposed to the overpriced stuff most countries get cheaper?

 

We'll start with prescription drug cost and go from there.

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Response to CorkySt.Clair (Reply #44)

Fri May 13, 2016, 06:31 AM

47. You sound like a Republican.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 06:29 AM

46. because I want my son to chase a dream...

 

not a dollar

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #46)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:29 AM

52. And Sanders will dispense dreams to the worthy?

 

I don't get what you mean. Everything will be cheaper because of Senator Sanders?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to randome (Reply #52)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:54 AM

59. health care and college debt

 

are the two most significant forms of shackles the owners use to force people to settle for crappy jobs

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #59)

Fri May 13, 2016, 08:05 AM

60. Fair enough. But Sanders can't do a thing about that without Congress.

 

I'm accumulating enough debt of my own to put my two daughters through college. That doesn't stop them or me from pursuing our dreams, though.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to randome (Reply #60)

Fri May 13, 2016, 08:13 AM

62. it can definitely hamper ones efforts

 

and you and I can take on the debt for our kids - not all kids are so fortunate

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:14 AM

48. Because he as close to FDR as we have. I agree with his policies. NOT because he leads in GE polls.

IOW, NOT because he is a 'winner'. (For a long time I supported Bernie when he was not the leader in GE polls and would not change my support if Hillary became the leader.)

The republican base is apparently attracted to 'winners'. I prefer liberals if given a choice. On a liberal scale of 0-10, Trump is a 0 (Pat Buchanan with more hair), Hillary a 7 (good on immigration, climate change, social policies, etc.), Bernie a 10 (good at all that and more).

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:17 AM

49. Because I've waited my whole adult life to vote FOR a good candidate instead of AGAINST bad

 

ones and I'm SO tired of holding my nose to vote...

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:28 AM

51. Health care for all

 

And many of his other plans and he has been fighting for the little guy for decades

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:29 AM

53. Because he's the only democrat in the race. n/t

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:34 AM

54. Because he understands the issues exposing his good judgment and he cannot be bought n/t

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:37 AM

56. Because he's honest & wants to bring back democracy. n/t

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:38 AM

57. I like this because it's so low key -- Ordinary folks being straightforward

 

That older woman who said "Because he's what I've been waiting for my whole life" got to me.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 08:07 AM

61. Because he means it when he says that he will fight for the middle class and

the poor. He doesn't change his views and hasn't changed his views in 40, 50 years or so because he is consistent and has always been on the right side of things. The lady near the end said "because I've been waiting for him my entire life" and I feel that way too. There is not another politician like him.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 08:49 AM

63. To help America back away from the edge of the cliff.

Our path is unsustainable, and we need more than mild "reform."

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 11:27 AM

65. Kickles

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 11:32 AM

66. Integrity and Vision.

He's got both of what are in short supply in Washington, D.C.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 11:47 AM

68. I support him

mainly due to his honesty and integrity (listens to his own conscience as opposed to lobbyists and big donors).Of course I also agree with his expansive vision of what this country could be. Yes, he needs a friendly congress but so would Clinton.

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