2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat would a GOP attack on Bernie look like?
It is factual, not speculation, that up until now Bernie outperforms Hillary nationally and in most every polled state against Trump.
That is the primary basis of Bernies assertion why he would be the better nominee.
Hillarys team and the MSM claim that those numbers are meaningless because the GOP machine has not taken aim at Bernie yet.
They assume, and it's never challenged, that those attacks would be successful and Trump would destroy Bernie.
For arguments sake, let's say they are correct.
So, for this exercise, let's state what we think those attacks would contain.
1. He's a socialist, which is kinda like a communist.
2. He had his honeymoon in Russia because he's a commie.
3. He said something nice about Castro, because he's a commie.
4. In his youth, he wrote some dirty sexual stuff, because he's a commie.
5. He wants income equality, because he's a commie and hates billionaires.
6. He believes health care is a right and not a privilege, because he's a commie. Etc. etc.
I'm sure that both Bernie and Hillary supporters can come up with others.
But, can we just stipulate that they would all claim that Bernies a commie.
And, then, just imagine - in your minds third eye - during the DNC convention, in rallies, speeches, advertising, and the debates (oh, especially the debates) how Bernie would explain his political governance philosophy of democratic socialism patterned after FDR.
Imagine the marketing of a modern day FDR against Donald frigging Trump.
I'd take that comparison every day and twice on the first Tuesday in November.
The commie thing would not stick.
Bernie and Jane would charm many in the middle class and they would win Independents and millenials in a landslide...plus bring in the traditional Dem base of women and minorities.
How do I KNOW that. I don't, of course. But, it's what I think would happen.
But, how do those that claim Bernies numbers against Trump would be reversed by GOP attacks KNOW that. They don't.
It's all just speculation.
For me, it's a shame we won't find out because Bernie vs Trump would be the greatest show on earth.
I know the math. I know Bernie is just playing out the string thru California as he promised his supporters he would do despite the math.
But, I thank him for his Herculean effort against incredible odds. He spoke for me and millions of others on so many issues that we care deeply about.
P.S. After June 7th, I will be done talking about Bernie. Hillary will be our nominee. My nominee.
I've already ordered my I'm With Her bumper stickers and yard signs that will replace my
Bernie ones on June 8. on Jan 20, She will be #45 and Trump will return to reality TV.

Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Arkansas Granny
(32,001 posts)make a few baseless claims or outright lie. I refer you to the swift boating of John Kerry.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Any truth to them, it will not cease. Hillary has selected not to vet Sanders.
StayFrosty
(237 posts)Now imagine single payer
"state sponsored death squads"
"free handouts"
"18 trillion of debt"
His Soviet honeymoon
His close affiliations to socialist parties
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Wouldn't it be better to run someone that is actually liked and has populist ideas?
Hillary will get destroyed in the GE, and her likability already sucks.. and that's with a lot of Democrats.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)savoring the moment believe me....and why they all have been mostly silent during primary time as to give sanders a chance against hillary....
but they are praying for a chance to destroy sanders
redstatebluegirl
(12,661 posts)They wanted to run against Bernie, so easy.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Mesee
(42 posts)Labelling Bernie a commie will never work. It's laughable. We live in a Global Community and people love Social Democrats. I live in Queens, NY with millions of people from the Old Soviet Union. Believe me he is no commie.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)COLGATE4
(14,867 posts)Rethuglican party won't overlook using that little tidbit.
Funtatlaguy
(11,833 posts)Unless I'm wrong, I don't think think Bernie is a practicing Jew.
COLGATE4
(14,867 posts)particularly in Southern States. Jews to them are handmaidens of Satan.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)There is no doubt about that.
Surya Gayatri
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Tarc
(10,590 posts)This is the problem with the Republican mindset, it does not advance as the years pass, they latch on to the same tired arguments and polish them to a shiny turd. The Shiny Turd of Bullshit is a cherished memento, a bundle of arguments that will still appeal to their fathers and grandfathers.
This is how they made goddamned Vietnam a relevant attack line in 2004. There are few things in life that make me grind my teeth to the bone worse than the "Swiftboat Vets for Truth"