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Thu May 12, 2016, 12:05 AM

 

Look, it's going to come down to Cali, where Bernie will have to win 70-80%. We can do it!

Cali will not let us down when they see what they can accomplish with their vote.

Medicare & college for every American!

Our jobs brought back from overseas!

And so much more!

It's going to happen, people!

Have a great day!

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Reply Look, it's going to come down to Cali, where Bernie will have to win 70-80%. We can do it! (Original post)
grahamhgreen May 2016 OP
CentralCoaster May 2016 #1
grahamhgreen May 2016 #6
Nyan May 2016 #14
ebayfool May 2016 #8
still_one May 2016 #12
grahamhgreen May 2016 #36
still_one May 2016 #41
NuclearDem May 2016 #2
brooklynite May 2016 #3
grahamhgreen May 2016 #7
pkdu May 2016 #20
grahamhgreen May 2016 #32
thesquanderer May 2016 #26
NuclearDem May 2016 #4
grahamhgreen May 2016 #10
still_one May 2016 #5
grahamhgreen May 2016 #9
ebayfool May 2016 #11
still_one May 2016 #13
ebayfool May 2016 #15
still_one May 2016 #21
ebayfool May 2016 #25
still_one May 2016 #28
TimPlo May 2016 #42
ebayfool May 2016 #45
Brother Buzz May 2016 #19
still_one May 2016 #22
Brother Buzz May 2016 #43
still_one May 2016 #44
KingFlorez May 2016 #16
ucrdem May 2016 #17
skylucy May 2016 #34
ucrdem May 2016 #35
grahamhgreen May 2016 #39
reddread May 2016 #37
lancer78 May 2016 #18
still_one May 2016 #23
lancer78 May 2016 #30
litlbilly May 2016 #29
lancer78 May 2016 #31
reddread May 2016 #38
grahamhgreen May 2016 #33
VOX May 2016 #24
ucrdem May 2016 #27
reddread May 2016 #40

Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:10 AM

1. Your favorite group is Hillary Clinton, so I guess this is just a bad attempt to stir shit.

 

How very not-classy.

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Response to CentralCoaster (Reply #1)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:14 AM

6. I love Hillary. She'll be an asset to the Sanders administration!

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #6)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:24 AM

14. Are you sure about that?

Because I don't consider her to have been an asset to the Obama administration.

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Response to CentralCoaster (Reply #1)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:15 AM

8. That's not always an indicator ...

checks recs for a more complete picture. Just sayin' ...

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Response to CentralCoaster (Reply #1)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:18 AM

12. Favorite group counts is not a reliable indicator. While you may be right, and based on the OP it

does appear to involve sarcasm, I just wanted to point out that favorite group is not always accurate measure.

If you look at the OPs journal, it contradicts your assumption:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/~grahamhgreen


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Response to still_one (Reply #12)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:46 AM

36. At least they haven't banned me!

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #36)

Thu May 12, 2016, 10:40 AM

41. good

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:11 AM

3. Would you like to point out any Presidential candidate who's come remotely close to 70-80% in CA?

Answer, the closest was favorite son Jerry Brown in 1976, and he got less than 60%. You seriously imagine that in a State as diverse as California you can keep Clinton to 20%?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:15 AM

7. Absolutely!

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #7)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:31 AM

20. And to the first question....crickets? nt

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Response to pkdu (Reply #20)

Thu May 12, 2016, 02:57 AM

32. You answered your own first question, lol

 

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:41 AM

26. Good point. Though Brown was running against multiple competitors.

Mo Udall and Frank Church got another 12 points worth of liberal votes. So the "liberal wing" arguably got 71+.

But yeah, no way Bernie gets 80.

I have an admittedly ridiculously optimistic scenario for Sanders at http://demrace.com/?share=GH4zWRsT - I gave him CA with 72 (and I gave him every upcoming contest except for New Jersey, New Mexico, and DC).

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:12 AM

4. Oh dear.

 

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #4)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:16 AM

10. Ka-boom goes the Nuke:)

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:12 AM

5. I just voted for Hillary on my vote by mail ballot

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Response to still_one (Reply #5)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:16 AM

9. Sorry for your loss;)

 

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Response to still_one (Reply #5)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:18 AM

11. I just voted for Bernie on my mail-in. And both daughters, a grandson, a grand daughter and I'm ...

still beating the bushes to rack up more. Even turned a couple Republicans. That was most satisfying!

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Response to ebayfool (Reply #11)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:21 AM

13. My daughter, her husband, my wife, and a whole group of friends and relatives are going with Hillary

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Response to still_one (Reply #13)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:24 AM

15. Welp. I guess we're gonna cancel each other out!

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Response to ebayfool (Reply #15)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:31 AM

21. and my Dad is tougher than your Dad, neener, neener, neener. I hope you realize I'm kidding.......

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Response to still_one (Reply #21)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:38 AM

25. Haha! Anybody's dad is tougher than mine. Hell, I could take him!

And I appreciate the old-time DU give and take!

We all have to GOTV, and let California rock n' roll! 'Bout time the west coast had their say!

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Response to ebayfool (Reply #25)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:44 AM

28. You are absolutely right about the GOTV, for both the primary and the general. California is going

to have all eyes on it, which is not usually the case when the primaries reach this stage


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Response to ebayfool (Reply #25)

Thu May 12, 2016, 10:47 AM

42. Too bad the DNC is skipping GOTV this time around

 

DWS did not want new voters voting because statistically it was a advantage to Sanders. So DNC has not done a dam thing nationally or locally in most states to GOTV. So the people who have been screaming "Defeat Trump" as reason we much pick Hillary have risked the GE to win the primary by not having a GOTV drives, just to keep any advantage Clinton has in the primaries.

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Response to TimPlo (Reply #42)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:33 PM

45. Ayup. I get that. So it is up to us to keep the GOTV effort alive as individuals.

I'm not giving up just because Wassermann wants to put her thumb on the race.

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Response to still_one (Reply #5)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:29 AM

19. Damn you!

What county are you in? I haven't received my mail-in ballot yet, should I be getting nervous?

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #19)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:33 AM

22. Santa Clara County. I think within a week you will see yours, if not earlier

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Response to still_one (Reply #22)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:29 PM

43. Woohoo, it arrived in the morning post

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #43)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:38 PM

44. Great

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:26 AM

16. Neither candidate will approach that much of the vote

The state is too big and diverse for that to happen.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:26 AM

17. Cali is going to let you down. We've got two mammoth ports and an economy that depends on trade.

California is not WV or Indiana or Michigan. Yes there are lots of peeps here with mixed-up ideas acquired via "social media" and the rest of the noise machine but most of the state is Dem and most of us know the score. And if adjustments are needed in the final hours there are surrogates aplenty who will do what they need to do.

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Response to ucrdem (Reply #17)

Thu May 12, 2016, 03:08 AM

34. ucrdem--I live in California too and you are right on. Hillary will win California.

Hillary 2016

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Response to skylucy (Reply #34)

Thu May 12, 2016, 04:37 AM

35. thanks lucy!

Yep anything is possible but I don't see it happening either. I imagine Sanders knows this which raises the question of what he thinks he's accomplishing by staying in and taking time and attention and money away from the November races, and there are hundreds if not thousands of them nationwide? The kindest reason I can come up with is that he's still feeling the bern from the debates and settling the score. But there's gotta be more to it than that.



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Response to ucrdem (Reply #35)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:52 AM

39. Bernie will win. It's about choices like Medicare for all vs mandatory private crapsurance, which

 

would you rather have for you and your family & Freinds? Insurance that vaporizes if you miss a payment, or guaranteed healthcare for life?

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:27 AM

18. None of that will happen

 

with the current Congress.

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Response to lancer78 (Reply #18)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:34 AM

23. I hope at least the Democrats are able to get control of the Senate

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Response to still_one (Reply #23)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:57 AM

30. I hope so too

 

So a Dem can replace any Liberal Justice with another Liberal Justice.

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Response to lancer78 (Reply #18)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:51 AM

29. If Bernie gets the nom, we have a chance at a good congress.

 

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #29)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:59 AM

31. No, we don't

 

There is nothing out there that is pushing people to reject their current Congress-critter. Gerrymandering has screwed us until 2022 unless if Trump is elected President and the country goes to hell. Then we might have a chance in 2018.

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Response to lancer78 (Reply #31)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:50 AM

38. "we cant"

 

quite the slogan!
How about "make America less great again!"

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Response to lancer78 (Reply #18)

Thu May 12, 2016, 03:00 AM

33. you have to stand up to bullies, not give up without a fight!

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:36 AM

24. Large Hispanic demographic in CA, especially in SoCal...

Bernie will be challenged to pull large numbers from Hispanic voters.

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Response to VOX (Reply #24)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:43 AM

27. The current Secretary of State happens to be Hispanic

and a Clinton fan. Not that that means there will be funny business but the chances are better that there won't be, and if you've ever wondered where the hell Ahnold came from not to mention Pete Wilson and George Deukmejian, well, so have I.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/about-alex-padilla/

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Response to ucrdem (Reply #27)

Thu May 12, 2016, 10:23 AM

40. Kathleen Brown gave us Pete Wilson's 2nd term

 

by running as a Republican in Democratic D.
completely accurate, but a failed strategy.
hey look! Im just like the guy you got!

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