Bernie is really getting tedious

[griffi94]

He has no answers.
He's turned into a typical attack dog.

Oh well.
The convention is coming up and after that
his 15 minutes will be over.

He can go back to being a non-entity in the senate

[NurseJackie]

1. An understatement.

[Baobab]

67. He doesn't listen to reason! Unwilling to sell out! Drat!

Surrender Bernie!!!


RESISTANCE IS FUTILE - YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED!


-Sincerely


MISS LEADING

[Bleacher Creature]

2. I've lost so much respect for him.

At this point, he's only helping Trump.

[CorporatistNation]

20. NOOO! It's All About Giving EVERYONE Their VOICE Through The VOTE!

Bernie btw IS the candidate of THE PEOPLE while your Hillary is a ... "candidate of destiny?"

But more certainly... of THE CORPORATION AND THE OLIGARCHY!!!!

[Agschmid]

29. Or "the people" since she is ahead in votes.

[TheBlackAdder]

155. "the people" is subjective when so many institutional constructs prevented the Democratic voice.

.


Voter purges, voter registration mishaps, suppression of same day voter registration.


The Democratic Party is no longer a Bottom-Up organization, determined by the people.

It has become a Bottom-Down organization, just like the Republican party, gatekeepers and all.


.

[silvershadow]

201. Don't forget the corporations gaining voting rights! nt

[anotherproletariat]

37. I've lost ALL respect for him, and hope that the Dems take away his committee seats when the new

session begins. He has proven that he is not a loyal member of the Democratic Party.

What people don't seem to realize is that this is actually being talked about, as well as adding a resolution to the platform to restrict presidential candidates to those who have been registered and contributing members of the party for a set number of years. I was told both of these things by my senator who I was fortunate enough to meeting with in D.C. (along with other students from my college) during spring break. She also indicated that the vast majority of super delegates are firmly behind Hillary, for similar reasons. Any hope of 'flipping' a significant amount of them is a pipe dream.

I predict that the longer Sanders goes on attacking Hillary, the worse the repercussions will be when he returns to the senate.

[CanadaexPat]

127. Or they could make him Secretary of State.

[anotherproletariat]

136. Never going to happen. They just don't like him anymore, and biting their tongues for this long is

clearly having an effect.

[COLGATE4]

145. +1

[larkrake]

178. Who gives a shit about the corrupt party? Wake up

[Jim Lane]

287. If Hillary had not become SoS, would they have taken away her committee seats?

After all, she also ran against the eventual Democratic nominee. Furthermore, her infamous "3:00 a.m. phone call" ad against Obama was much more vicious than anything Bernie has said about her.

Anyway, if this is actually being "talked about," I'd say it's just venting. The Democrats will want their committee chairships. If the Senate is close, they'll need Bernie to keep caucusing with them. If an anti-Trump landslide produces a big Senate majority, they'll still have to look ahead to 2018, when Bernie is likely to be re-elected and the Republicans are likely to gain Senate seats (based on who's up for re-election that year). Even if they don't need Bernie in the next Congress, they aren't going to go out of their way to piss him off now as long as they have to worry about the effect of the midterms.

[workinclasszero]

256. Trump appreciates the help I'm sure

Sanders is the new Nader

[MoonRiver]

3. It's all about his ego and nothing else now.

[k8conant]

71. Last I looked Hillary never checked her ego at the door.

[KelleyD]

4. His shrillness makes me want to turn the channel!

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Bwahahahaha

You wanna hear shrill?

Oh, man, that is ironic.

[griffi94]

15. Ear of the beholder

And I have to admit that Bernie
shrieking 1% ...millionaires....Wall Street has become
shrill. But worse than shrill it's become
repetitive.
He's got zero solutions just a stump speech.

He'll be gone soon.
The sooner the better.

[apcalc]

44. With him

Its been the same schtick for 50 years. He's very good at that one routine, and it is a good and important one.
There is so much more to being president than one facet. Not every wrong can be righted by economics.
Still, he'd be way better than Trump.

[brush]

53. Every job I ever had there's always a constant complainer with no solutions

I've learned to stay away from them.

[All in it together]

286. It's silly to say Bernie has no answers.

He has the answers and you could find them if you wanted to.

[KelleyD]

17. It was meant to be...so happy you got it! Touche!

[LanternWaste]

273. You appear hysterical and overly-emotional.

You appear hysterical and overly-emotional. Irony, indeed.

[oldandhappy]

11. what channel?????!!!!!! MSM blackballed him.

[CorkySt.Clair]

104. That's an August-September 2015 myth

Might want to update your TP's.

[oldandhappy]

134. I stopped watching MSM about two months ago.

At the time the talking heads were soft-balling clinton and rarely mentioning Sanders. If he was on he got strange questions. On the nights of the elections the states for clinton were called early. The states with the same leads for Sanders were called much later. All of this was in 2016.

[COLGATE4]

146. If Rachel had him on any more he'd be her co-host.

=

[snowy owl]

154. It's not nice to exaggerate.

[CorporatistNation]

27. Her Ties To THE BIGGG MONEY....

BTW...Bernie is easily TWENTY YEARS YOUNGER THAN HILLARY... PHYSIOLOGICALLY! Bernie can perform ONE ARMED PUSH UPS!

Hillary has significant health issues... On coumadin... S/P Brain Bleed!

Hillary IS...Forgetful gets confused per her ever present gal Friday Uma Abedin! Per published emails of Abedin!

Bernie is EMOTIONALLY more mature however... He has a distinct propensity for ... TELLING THE DAMN TRUTH!

[CentralCoaster]

34. She's on Coumadin aka Warfarin aka RAT POISON???

Damn, that shit's deadly.

Warfarin was first used as a rat poison or rodenticide because it was considered to be too potent to be safely used in humans, but after a blood test was developed to measure and adjust its blood-thinning effects, warfarin has become the most widely used oral anticoagulant in the United States.Aug 20, 2013

[Madam Mossfern]

115. Listen, I'm no fan of Hillary

but I've been on Warfarin for over twenty years and I'm just fine.

[CentralCoaster]

124. I'm glad you're not having problems.

My dad had so many trips to the ER with bleeding and blue toes and fingers that I took him off and gave him aspirin instead.

Take care.

[840high]

135. My ex had bleeding from his eyes, nose.

He was taken off it, too.

[k8conant]

72. Her lies make me cringe.

[840high]

137. I don't listen to her

anymore.

[grasswire]

131. Bark Bark Bark!

Think about it.

[hellofromreddit]

5. C-C-C-C-Combo Breaker!

I like Bernie.

[griffi94]

7. I know he has his fans

I think now he's just trying to hold on to them.

[morningfog]

81. He has supporters, millions of supporters.

[griffi94]

83. Yep

Too bad he didn't have more voters than Hillary

[morningfog]

87. He's had a strong showing, about 9.5 million voters.

It is too bad that Hillary has more pledged delegates thus far.

[griffi94]

90. He lost

Bye Bernie

[morningfog]

96. He's not been mathematically eliminated. Keep on, Bernie!

[griffi94]

97. Hahahaha

He only needs like 70% of the remaining
delegates hahahaha.

That's so cute.

His winning is now a statistical impossibility.

HIllary Clinton our next president.

Get used to saying Madam President

[morningfog]

99. 65.7% to be accurate.

I'm under no illusion that his nomination is likely. His staying in through every vote has value independent of the nomination.

[griffi94]

103. Oh well then 65.7% A cakewalk

I want him to stay in and be as loud and aggressive as he has been.

That way when he gats smacked down at the convention
the Democratic Party can jerk his
committee assignments and put a real
backroom political beatdown on him without having
to explain why they're doing it

[Ed Suspicious]

116. Do you think he gives a shit?

He's been forced to fight the same establishment he's given so much to this whole election. No I think Bernie learned a bit about loyalty this election. He learned political alliance is a fickle bitch and that everyone in his way is so much smaller than his mission.

[griffi94]

122. At this point it isn't up to him

He chose his path
Now I just want to see the party make him pay for his choice

Let him re-name a few more post offices lol.

[boobooday]

266. Why so vindictive?

Is this not supposed to be a democratic party? Are we not the democratic party? Why does competition make people so angry? Why should Bernie (and his supporters) be punished for competing?

[Dustlawyer]

279. Exactly! Why don't our issues matter to the DNC, we (Bernie supporters) represent

a very significant portion of the Democratic Party? Why doesn't Hillary incorporate some of our issues to bring the Party together instead of telling us to eat cake?

When Hillary loses they will blame Bernie supporters when it is their fault they pushed us all away!

[COLGATE4]

148. Except him, of course. When is the canonization?

[griffi94]

209. He may give a shit later

when his senate committee assignments are taken away from him and
the Democraically controlled
senate decides to review any federal money going
to Vermont.

[morningfog]

138. Lol. You have a funny fantasy.

Anyone paying attention knows it won't be going down like that.

[griffi94]

269. You don't know that

At some point you thought Bernie was going to be the nominee.
You're judgement is questionable at best.

[morningfog]

274. I've never thought that.

It's always been likely the Hillary would be the nominee, since day one. I support Bernie and thought it was *possible* that he could win. And it is still possible, although highly improbable.

[griffi94]

277. You know. I have a real question for you

You're about the 10th Sanders supporter I've
had an exchange with here on DU that says you never thought
Bernie would win.

If you never thought he could win anyway.
What in your opinion caused the zealotry.

Let me state I'm for Hillary.
I'm for Hillary because I think she'll be a skillful enough manager
maybe get a few tweaks on Obamacare maybe social issues
creep to the left a little more.

I liked what Bernie was saying.
But I also know that given the current political climate
even if he won and had a slim majority in the senate that
most of his proposals were never going to get thru congress.

So why do you think that so many Sanders supporters bought his
message so hard to the exclusion of the political facts as they are right now.

It's like Bernie is more than another career politician to many.
Is that why the thought of him losing is almost unbearable
because they somehow canonized him.

Not being snarky.

[morningfog]

282. Maybe you read to fast.

I didn't come into the race thinking he would win. No one did. He was unknown and polling in single digits. Hillary's folks came in with the hubris, that is we hers. They saw the primary as a pro forma exercise to warm up for the general.

But, as we saw, Bernie's message resonated. As he made the race competitive, it was evident that, although still a huge long shot, that if everything went right, he could win.

As he garnered enough support and wins to keep the race going, his role changed. He became a champion of his issues and rightly received a national platform to spread his message. He pushed Hillary to the left.

And he still could win it.

[griffi94]

283. Ah ok

The truth is that he hasn't really been in it
since Super Tuesday.

He did pull off some upsets that seemed like they should have been slam
dunks for Hillary.
But even right after MI he was down by about 200 hundred
delegates.

I think the count now has him down about 295.

So by the delegates which is really the only measure
that counts he was never close after the south voted.

But I think I have my answer.
You mentioned Hillary approaching it as just a warm up for the GE.

So you found her attitude that it was just hers to be off putting.

Thanks

[COLGATE4]

147. You know what they say: close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. nt

[griffi94]

6. I think it's his ego as well

He's spent 20+ years in the senate.
Nothing with his name on it has ever been passed.
Well except he re-named a few post offices.

Now he's suddenly on the big stage.
It's gone to his head and now he's just raging
against the dying of the light.

It's kind of too bad that whatever integrity he had he's
lost because of his ego.

[CorporatistNation]

23. Oh, The Veterans Bill Passed Into Law That Came Out Of Bernie's Committee? WTF?

More BS!

[griffi94]

35. Bernie just slapped his name on a bill

because the other senators threw him a bone.

Most of his bills were shot down and instead of
re-working them he continued to
re-introduce them to show how pricipled he was.

Easy to be pure when you don't have to actually
do anything.

Bernie is just another naive idealogue.
NO real plan. No ability to make prgress.
No willingness to work with others.

The sooner he exits the better it will be for everybody

[dubyadiprecession]

8. I know, he likes to win states...

BS just doesn't understand that delegate allotment is proportional to the popular vote each candidate wins in each state.

[griffi94]

10. Exactly

If delegates were awarded by who won the most acres then Bernie would be way out in front.

Most of his victories have been large sparsely populated
non-diverse states.

I'd also add that the staes he's won will be solid red in November.

I only brought up the fact that he's mostly only won red states
because that was his rationale he used
as to why the southern states shouldn't matter.

[QC]

12. He's a meaniebutt!!!!!

[griffi94]

18. Don't know about a meaniebutt

He is an angry old white guy who keeps
ranting the same thing over and over and
when he's asked how he'd change things has no answer.

Voters: Senator Sanders How will you pay for your propoasals.
Bernie: We need a political revolution.

We need to endevor to persevere. That's about all of his plan.
Oh and march in protest when an important
vote is up in congress.

[Ron Green]

79. If all you get from what he's doing is what you just wrote,

you're a moron.

I hope that's not true, and that you're just a shit-stirrer instead.

With all due respect.

[griffi94]

80. Wow you're name calling

Maybe you should self delete
Sorry but when you name call....you've lost

[Ed Suspicious]

107. Truth really hurts.

[griffi94]

120. Truth is Bernie got steamrolled

No Bernie....ever.

[Ed Suspicious]

128. He's still going. Pisses you off, right? Good.

[griffi94]

180. Doesn't piss me off at all

I hope he stays in til the convention.
That way I can really gloat when he loses on the first ballot lol.

[stevenleser]

113. Mind you, just a little down thread they are saying we are the nasty ones.

They want it both ways and they expect us all to forget how nasty many of them have been.

[griffi94]

197. If you mean Bernies fans

They say a lot of things.
Usually that contradict the last thing they said.

It's a hero worship kind of deal.

The truth and reality is.
It doesn't matter what they say.
Bernie isn't going to be our nominee.
Hillary is going to be our nominee.

It doesn't matter that Bernie won 70% of the vote in a giant state devoid of people.

The contest is based on delegates and Hillary has 295 more than him.
That's 5 less than she had bfore his YUGE victories Indiana and WV.

Now they're just lashing out because they
really really really really really wanted him to win.
But he lost.

[Surya Gayatri]

190. Mic drop! LOL!

Bernie: We need a political revolution.

This is his stock answer, no matter the question.

[BootinUp]

13. He's the same as he ever was far as I can tell.

And yes its getting tedious, because in my humble opinion he doesn't know when to quit.

[oldandhappy]

14. Five more months!!

We will be sick of every candidate by then.

[Eric J in MN]

16. Yeah, because Clinton's half-measures

...are much more exciting than Bernie Sanders' advocacy of:

- Single Payer
- Free Tuition
- Marijuana legalization
- Ending mandatory minimums
- Ending the death penalty
- Restoring Glass-Steagall

[griffi94]

19. Bernies advocating = Bernie wishing

Most of that is DOA

[Eric J in MN]

25. Electing a president who believes in those things

...would have been a good step towards getting them someday. I'm not saying they would have happened within 8 years.

[griffi94]

40. Hahaha

I want to believe in the Easter Bunny too.

What you believe and what you can accomplish aren't the same.

The Christian Conservatives wanted Ted Cruz because of his beliefs.

[Eric J in MN]

46. If Ted Cruz had good ideas

...then people should have voted for him even if he couldn't pass them in 8 years.

Ted Cruz has horrible ideas.

[griffi94]

52. Apparently the majority of voters

think Bernies ideas aren't very good either.

Again eye of the beholder.

[Eric J in MN]

222. Apparently the majority of developed countries

...have implemented ideas such as universal health care, paid family and medical leave, and a ban on the death penalty.

[griffi94]

230. And that has what exactly

to do with anything.

Since other developed countries
don't vote in our elections.

[DLCWIdem]

288. funds coming from those outside interests

Citizens from those developing nations and others cant vote but there trying to influence the U.S. elections in money. The FEC has flagged Bernies campaign for those contributions.

[griffi94]

289. I wouldn't be even a little bit surprised

If Bernie was illegally funding his campaign.

Anybody who can't release their tax return
is untrustworthy.

If Bernis doesn't fully comply then he should
go to jail.

[Andy823]

43. Yes, but

How long would it be before the same supporters who went after Obama within 6 months would also turn on Bernie because he is not getting what they wanted done?

[COLGATE4]

150. Yeah, that's just what we need now. An 'aspirational' place-holder as President.

[Eric J in MN]

223. Sanders voted for Dodd-Frank and the ACA.

His ideals are to the left of Congress but he'd do all he could as president to move the country in the right direction.

[COLGATE4]

238. That's the problem. I don't think there's much he could do to move the country.

[Ash_F]

69. All of those are in line with majority opinion except death penalty.

What are you talking about?

[griffi94]

75. I do believe those are in line with public opinion

I also believe the public knows it's not going
to happena all at one time

And the public has rejected Bernie via primaries.

I like Bernies ideas.
He's just the wrong man to get them implemented

[KelleyD]

24. We all want that...reality has a Liberal bias!

[TCJ70]

21. I'm sure you do get tired of hearing about liberal policies and ideas...

...you are, after all, a Clinton supporter.

[dgauss]

22. Consistent integrity does become tedious if you find yourself in a position that's opposing it.

And then it leads to all sorts of annoyance and rationalizations.

[KelleyD]

33. We want to see the path to that which he hasn't shown us yet! Trust...similar to Trump!

[griffi94]

49. Not exactly

Useless sloganeering is tedious.
It's also the exclusive domain of Bernie.

[dgauss]

63. Good thing you weren't around in the New Deal era.

You would have been bored to death with all the useless sloganeering about social security.

[griffi94]

70. FDR

Great president

Imprisoned Japanese tho.

Get rid of him and all his accomplishmnets.

Wow I sounded like a Bernie fan there for a second.

Bernie isn't FDR

Bernie isn't even a has been. He's a never was.
He's a never was because he chose that.

Was too busy being pure.

I don't want pure.
I want effective.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. And yet, people are still voting for the man.

Bet that really cheeses you off, eh.

[Trust Buster]

42. As with Black Friday, the expectation of free stuff will turn people crazy. Like gold fever.

[Warren DeMontague]

56. Yeah, that's gotta be it

[Trust Buster]

60. His spending proposals is his appeal. You know that.

[dflprincess]

91. "Free stuff"

Is that you Mitt?

[Beartracks]

188. LOL Yeah the "free stuff" meme is pure rightwing. n/t

[griffi94]

57. Hardly

I want him to stay in to the convention.

That way when he gets crushed he won't have any
excuses.
I want him and his hardcore inflexible supporters rejected on the first ballot.

[Warren DeMontague]

59. Well thank heavens Hillary can start pivoting to win over "megachurch moms" despite the man

[griffi94]

86. Whatever it takes to win

[Warren DeMontague]

110. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly the problem. Or one of them.

Although I have no doubt that derpo42, brobust71, crrct22 and brock87 all are in full agreement with you, on that point.

[griffi94]

118. Bernie = Losing the nomination

[Warren DeMontague]

203. Is this the point at which I'm supposed to go "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO", like Whiny Darth Vader?

Okay, fine. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Yeah, I've known from day one what the likely outcome of this primary season was going to be. Whatever reaction you think you're gonna get, you aren't gonna get it from me.

But if you think that the "inevitable" candidate has performed at anything beyond a marginally adequate, unimpressive level, you are in deep denial.

[840high]

139. That's very disturbing and sad.

[griffi94]

192. Well it's sad for Bernie

[Beartracks]

189. Wow, that's the opposite of "integrity" right there. n/t

[griffi94]

194. In politics

A noble loss is just a loss.

Bernie is all about the noble principled loss.
That's why his senate record of bills he's introduced is so thin.

He can name the hell out of a post office tho.

[elias7]

28. Talk about losing respect for people

I have lost so much respect for the DUers that have continued to do this strange smug dance on what they label as Bernie Sanders' grave. You are truly mean spirited people, and this a great disappointment.

[nashville_brook]

38. amen.

[riderinthestorm]

61. There's a lot of DUers here I'll never see the same again nt

[griffi94]

64. Yeah?

I could not care any less.

I want competent Democrats in office.

Not naive idealogues.

[stevenleser]

109. It's a joke considering how nasty many Sanders supporters here have been since he announced.

This nonsense by them now is laughable.

"Yes, we've been nasty to Clinton supporters for close to a year but ignore that, you just need to be nice to us."

[griffi94]

117. There aren't enough

BoBers to matter

Loud tantrum throwers
The can do whatever they want

They're loud and angry because they don't have the numbers
to matter.
If they did. Bernie would be the nominee

[840high]

142. I remember you - at

one point in your life you couldn't stand Hillary.

[nc4bo]

30. I'm sooooo tired of hearing Hillary Clinton. I don't even know wtf she stands for these days.

I've given up guessing who she's trying to mimic today as it sure as shit isn't the same as yesterday or last week or last month and lawd jesus last year.

I have a case of Clinton fatigue and the only cure is Bernie Sanders.

[madaboutharry]

31. I used to like him.

But now I can't stand him. He is so rude and annoying.

[JPnoodleman]

32. Can you believe he doesn't OBEDIENTLY WORSHIP THE CLINTONS!?!?!?!?!?!11eleven!

[KelleyD]

41. We have never ask him to...hyperbole?

[JPnoodleman]

62. Oh please, the ire about him is purely that he has the Insolence to challenge a Queen.

[Doctor_J]

36. He won't stop talking about healthcare and education as rights, getting the Pentagon under control

using public money for public good, and loosening the billionaires stranglehold on democracy.

I can see why Hillary supporters and other right wingers are tired of hearing him.

[KelleyD]

47. We all support that...he has not come up with those policies on his own...he is a hijacker!

[Doctor_J]

55. And Hillary hijacked hers from the republicans

[Beartracks]

193. Candidates must have new, original policy ideas we've never heard of before?

When did THAT start?

==============================

[Trust Buster]

39. He's no Democrat. He used our Party because, at 74, he has no time left to develop his own party.

[nc4bo]

45. LOL!!!!

[KelleyD]

51. You see that as funny? Truth has a Liberal bias...

[nc4bo]

66. It's silly as hell. Sanders is more of a Dem than most of the spineless, greedy corpo-Dems we've

Had to tolerate or hold our noses for.

We need many, many more just like him.

[frylock]

100. I found it to be rather hateful.

But it's what I've come to expect from that poster.

[Eric J in MN]

50. And if he'd run for president as an Independent

...what would you have said?

[KelleyD]

54. Bernie who?

[Beartracks]

196. Is there an anti-Bernie meme generator you all use?

You know how people have joke-of-the-day calendars, but not all 365 jokes can be funny?

It sounds like you've tapped into a supply of "arguments to use with Bernie supporters" -- and this is one of the weaker ones.

=========================

[Thinkingabout]

48. The further this goes, the more is revealed.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

108. I agree!

We gotta exposed the corruption that is the establishment-backed corporatist democratic party. Let's get this party to represent US again!

[Thinkingabout]

112. Yes, I think we should start with Lockheed Martin and on to the gun manufacturers.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

114. And don't forget the banking industry! They wrecked our economy ya know.

Oh and the fossil fuel industry while we're at it.

[Thinkingabout]

119. With the help of the Commodities Future Modernization Act of which Sanders voted yes.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

123. And the Wall Street Bailouts that Hillary supported, I know it's devastating.

Oh yeah speaking of devastating, I heard Bush donors are quite fond of Hillary's policies. I hope she doesn't take the bait.

[Thinkingabout]

130. She used good judgement on this issue, a vote against the bailout would have caused a depression of

which most of us could not survive through the depression. We don't have enough money saved to last for five to ten years. There will be less jobs and a total downfall. Those who are depending on pensions would have lost their pensions, it would have been ruin for many.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

141. A ruin for the banksters I agree. Why did the working class not get bailed out of the housing...

market disaster(sub-prime loans, foreclosures, etc.)? I'm sure a bailout for the working class would have been a better stimulus package!

[Thinkingabout]

157. Actually they did in ways you may not understand, for example businesses

Has to get bank loans in order to cover payrolls in lean times, get capital for projects, etc. I don't agree with their reckless decisions but a larger reckless decision would be not to bail the banks out. As I have stated places like AIG had pension funds and if you were already receiving a pension there may not have been funds to cover the pensions, some pensions was insured through government programs and those would have defaulted on the tax payers. You have to look at the total reasons for the bailouts not just a part of the problem. As you know there was other programs like HARP which did help the consumers and they came later. The auto industry received bailouts in which they repaid and was administered through Obama's administration. This put workers back to work, more consumers was helped.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

159. I'm glad you're telling me what the purpose of these bailouts were for.

Unfortunately, none of which you stated applied for the vast majority hit hard by the disaster that was the crash + bailouts. Millions actually lost a good chunk of their pensions because the banks gambled their money away. Maybe if we had a glass-steagall to protect consumers, none of that garbage would have happened.

[Thinkingabout]

160. No, not everyone was made whole, it would have been worse if we had a

Depression to deal with, you pointed out 401's was lost, it would have been worse.

[whatchamacallit]

58. Until then you'll just have to squirm

[griffi94]

65. Not squirming even a little bit

I am however waiting gleefully for him
to be rejected at the convention.

[whatchamacallit]

73. I await your next 100 ("I'm indifferent") 'Sanders sucks' posts between now and then

[griffi94]

78. Probably be more than 100

I can't wait to see him publicly slapped down.

I hope the Democrats jerk his
committee assignments.

Make him pay.

[whatchamacallit]

84. For having the temerity to run for president?

Your unhinged enmity is sad.

[griffi94]

85. For attackin the party during an election

I hope they marginalize him.

[whatchamacallit]

88. The party blows

and liberal democrats are sick of its shit.

[griffi94]

92. The party is the party

Bernie joined without being pressured.
Then he bitched constantly about everything
that didn't break his way.

I hope they break him.

[whatchamacallit]

93. I hope he breaks them

[griffi94]

94. He won't

They have the numbers and the dollars.

I want him regulated down to nothing.
He bit the hand that let him join so he had a platform.

Almost time to pay him back in spades.

[whatchamacallit]

95. Get help

[frylock]

111. Serious issues there.

Not the only poster that I've seen here with that kind of sadistic mentality.

[whatchamacallit]

132. Yeah

I may not be a big Hillary fan, but I don't wish anything shitty happens to her. :/

[griffi94]

164. I hope the senate kills any federal money

going to Vermont.

[frylock]

174. Yes yes.

It's going to be okay. Finish your soup.

[griffi94]

176. Finish your Bernie rally lol

hahahahahahaha

[Redwoods Red]

144. Jesus Christ, you're toxic.

Review your posts on this thread and then atone. You serve no purpose but divisiveness.

[griffi94]

152. I hope they crush him

[Redwoods Red]

167. What the fuck is wrong with you?

[griffi94]

170. Bernie attacked the party

The party that let him have a platform and that he didn't even belong to.

He started out with a real and positive message.
Then he decided he could win by going negative and attacking the party in general
and our nominee in particular.

The more it was clear that he didn't have the votes the nastier he got.

I hope they break him.
Strip him of any plum committee assignments.
And as much as possible stop any federal money from
flowing to Vermont.

Mess with the bull. Feel the horns.

[Beartracks]

199. WTF, really?

Bernie dared to run, so let the people of Vermont suffer!!!!

Maybe you should take a break from politics.

==============

[griffi94]

205. Maybe the people of Vermont

Should pick a senator without a target on his back.

It's not my fault Bernie went negative.

There is hope tho.
No matter how popular somebody is, there is always somebody willing
to take them on.

So maybe in 2018 when Bernie is up for re-election
the Democratic party can suggest that Vermonts federal contracts are in danger
and a new Democratic senator may be the way to save them.
At the same time dump a lot of money in the Vermont senate race and get a smear
campaign going against non Democrats.

That would give the people of Vermont a choice.
Keep the federal money or keep Bernie

[CentralMass]

68. Go Bernie !

[k8conant]

77. Go Bernie!

[griffi94]

101. Go Bernie

Back to Vermont and obscurity.

Go now....Scamper.

[CentralMass]

102. Such negativity is bad for the soul.

[griffi94]

105. Ha My soul is fine

Go Bernie.
Plod on to being crushed.
First by Hillary at the convention and
then by the Democratic Party for
turning on them after thay let
you run as a Democrat to give you a platform.

Go Bernie Go Go Go lol.

[CentralMass]

121. ..

[griffi94]

125. Why are you calling me negative

Bernie is the big primary loser.
He has no chance and yet he keeps attacking Hillary

He's just stroking his own fragile ego.

He's done. Over. Fini. Lost.

[CentralMass]

126. Just trying be funny. I'm sure that you are a very positive person.

[CentralCoaster]

74. Yup, and his family foundations and ties to wallstreet and the Koch brothers is scary, too.

I can't stand his shrill voice and hideous ego.

And the giant pockets, looks like Captain Kangaroo, he does!

[840high]

143. .+1

[Blue_In_AK]

76. Funny...

I find Hillary tedious. Opinions, we all have them.

[Armstead]

82. People who live in.....

[Ned_Devine]

89. These threads aren't just gross. They're creepy

[pacalo]

98. The newbie calvary showed up in droves to pad the presence of HC supporters.

Creepiness on steroids.

[pmorlan1]

106. How Dare He

do what he said he was going to do. When he said he was going to campaign all the way to the convention who would have thought he would actually do it. Any "normal" politician would have stopped when she told him back in March that she was pivoting to the GE but not this guy. No, he had to go and actually keep his promise. Ugh...He was probably just trying to keep his honesty numbers up because he's so selfish. Ugh But just wait til he gets to the convention. None of the lobbyists and corporate sponsors are going to want anything to do with him because they know he's ruining the Democratic party.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

129. Speaking of having no answers, do you have anything at all to support your OP?

Or are you just venting your own frustration? Your OP is devoid of any backing material.

[griffi94]

133. Senator Sanders. How would you get your proposal for free college thru congress

Bernie: On the day when the vote is held. I'd encourage millions of
people to march on the capital. To let Republicans know that we demand it.

Senator Sanders, how would you get free healthcare thru congress.
Bernie: We need a political revolution is this country.

Senator Sanders, your economic projections are overly optimistic.
Bernie: The status quo is why we're here.

What's next?
Bernie Sanders proclaims....The future lies ahead. Our rivers are full of fish.
Endeavor to persevere.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
What a silly candidate.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

140. It isn't much, but at least it has more content than your OP.

So thank you for your reply.

[griffi94]

149. Maybe he could rub his lucky rabbit foot lol.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

151. What's a rabbit foot lol?

[snowy owl]

153. Having to listen to a consistent message must be tiresome for y'all.

Some people just like change . . . or in other words, flip-flopping. Let us know when she's finally figured out her policies please.

[Logical]

156. The longer this goes on the more the Hillery people whine like little babies

[JDPriestly]

158. It is Hillary whose self-pity and corruption are getting tedious.

Bernie draws huge crowds in relatively small cities. Apparentlynhe is not tedious to the thousands and thousands of peole who travel and wait for hours in line to see him and hear him.

And if you think Bernie doesn"t have answers, you need to read his book Ou.tsider in the White House.

Those who think Bernie doesn"t have the answers are not paying attention.

He is on the Budget Committee in the Senate and can tell you (and does in his book) what programs to cut.

Read his book and find out what the Clinton administration"s pay-offs for lay-offs was.

You will never support Cinton again.

[griffi94]

163. Nobody cares about Bernie drawing large crowds

His Really really YUGE crowds have left him
295 delegates and over 3 million votes behind.

His crowds are just noise.
His message has turned to noise.

He had a shot.
He blew it. Never Bernie...cause he can't win the primary.
Time for the party to really make him pay.
Maybe kill all federal money going to Vermont.

Go Hillary.

[immoderate]

161. I think he's running for office. You want a variety show?

Silly.

--imm

[griffi94]

162. I think he's just prattling now because he has an audience.

[immoderate]

165. And he has an audience because he's running for office.

I bet he opposes your candidate. Am I right?

--imm

[griffi94]

166. I'm a Democrat

Bernies lost so he's attacking the party that let him have a platform.

He'll never be the nominee and now I hope
when this is over and the dust settles and Bernie
is back in the senate that senate Democrats strip him of
his best committee assignments and cut off
any federal money that goes to Vermont.

I hope it's quiet but devastating to Bernie and the state of Vermont.

But first let's continue the primaries so we can watch as he falls farther behind on delegates and needs higher and higher percents of the vote just to stay within 100 deleagtes.

Then on to the convention where Hillary wins the nomination on the
first ballot.

Then he can fade back into obscurity until the the party is ready to retaliate.

[Redwoods Red]

168. You are a hateful and hate-filled person. You do not serve the Democratic Party well with this crap.

Please reflect on your bitterness.

[griffi94]

171. I serve it better than Bernie

His 15 minutes are almost over.

Then it'll be payback time.
That's why he's dragging this out.
To avoid te payback that he knows is coming.

[immoderate]

169. The Democrats are not very democratic.

Bernie makes them look very hypocritical.

Hillary (and Obama) are right of Nixon. (Not by much though. )

--imm

[griffi94]

173. Hahaha

Right.
It's undemocratic for Bernie not to win lol.

He's toast in the primary.
He's not going to be the nominee.

Time to focus on the GE
and after that holding Bernie accountable.

[immoderate]

179. Punish Bernie for seeking office? That's fair.

--imm

[griffi94]

182. It is fair

He only became a Democrat to use their resources.
They let him and gave him a platform.
He started out talking about what needed to be addressed.

Then somehwere along the way he decided that attacks were the way to go.

He's attacked using the same disproven talking points that the RW has used for decades.

He took his shot.
He lost.
He should either be prepared to fall on his sword or have
the senate Democrats beat him down.
I'm personally hoping for a public beat down.

[immoderate]

184. I'm not surprised. Bernie represents the people. Hillary represents the rulers.

You want to suppress the election.

BTW, no matter what happens, when this is over, Bernie will be more powerful.

--imm

[griffi94]

186. Bernie will be a footnote

Just like Ralph Nader.

[immoderate]

198. Nader was a writer. Bernie is a senator whose run has augmented his prestige.

Nader's effect on policy was immense. (Still miss the Corvair though. ) Similarly, Bernie has shifted the whole frame of debate. If he doesn't win, a candidate in the future will succeed on policies he grounded.

Maybe Hillary will think twice before she turns the frackers loose. But she has to win first. Are you feeling a little, er... Trumpy?

--imm

[griffi94]

202. Bernie is a politician

He's attacking because he's getting his clock cleaned.

In a couple of months at the convention he'll get smacked down.

2 years from now he probably won't even run for re-election since
after his primary run he's not going to get a lot of cooperation
in the senate.

Plus he's what....like a hundred now so he'll be 102 in 2 years.
And I expect the Democrats will dump a lot of money in Vermont
to smear him and take his seat.

Bernie lost.

Hillary is our nominee

[Surya Gayatri]

172. Massive K & R. Thanks for posting.

[griffi94]

175. Hi Surya Gayatri

I certainly have aroused the Bernie faithful lol.

Hope you're having a great evening.

[Surya Gayatri]

177. .../...

[highprincipleswork]

181. I know. It's so wearisome to hear him speak of traditional Democratic values, as if we still had

the oomph to fight for them.

[griffi94]

183. 1%...Millionaires...Wall Street

Yeah there's some solutions.

He's not fighting.
He's posturing.

Luckily he has zero chance at the nomination.

I look forward to the political beat down the
senate Democrats give him when his excellent presidental
adventure is over.

At one time I thought he'd simply fade back into obscurity like the first 20+
years of his political career but now I'm
optimistically hoping that he's stripped of his committee assignments
and all federal money going to Vermont goes somewhere else.

On to the convention and then on to
the political beat down.

[highprincipleswork]

185. What do you even believe in? I'd be curious to know.

[griffi94]

191. I believe in President Obamas 3rd term

His progress was slow but steady.
I'm not willing to not take anything becasue that isn't enough.

That's Bernies positions .
All or nothing. Right now.

It hasn't ever worked and it won't work now.

Compromise is good. It's how you move forward.

Bernie has attacked anything not 100% victory right now.

That's naive and unrealistic.
I once thought he was just doing that to keep his issues front and center but
over the last few months listenining to his overwrought rhetoric about he can still win the nomination
I've come to the conclusion that he's a true believer.

And that's not realistic.
It's just naive.

[highprincipleswork]

195. Obama and those like him continually give away too much. Nice guy. Smart guy. Politically and

economically too Conservative for the welfare of the average person in the USA, if only people would be honest.

I mean, c'mon, identity politics is only going to get you so far.

Bernie's position is so misinterpreted. No, it is not all or nothing. He is just stating how he thinks it should be. He hasn't promised it will get that way. But that's what he's shooting for. Unlike Obama who starts off shooting for something Republicans can live with and then ends up with a lot less when they meet him halfway or less than halfway.

How do you think the Republican Party got so crazy?

When the Democrats meet them halfway or more than halfway, they just go further to the CWAZY RIGHT!

This has simply got to stop. And the Democratic Party has to stop being the enabler.

The numbers say Hillary will probably win. She has gotten this far while practically parroting Bernie's popular positions on just about everything. Why not stick with this platform, and prove you believe in it and can support it? Bernie has shown you can raise money all sorts of ways. And she could too, if people believed she was sincere and sincerely Liberal and sincerely behind them and not folks like Wall Street. There is a whole half a party plus Independents and Populist minded Republicans just there for the taking. But no, she most likely will tack to the Right, pissing these people off and not picking up nearly enough half-hearted Republicans for her efforts.

Forget about it. That way lies dissension, infighting, drama, a Party in disarray, and I would predict a monstrous loss in November.

[griffi94]

200. Then keep on insisting on all or nothing

You'll get nothing everytime.

Obama faced the most hostile congress in the history of congress.
That's not an excuse. That's a fact.

Here's another fact.
Even people that agree with Bernie on issues know
that it's not possible implement changes like that in a few years.

Bernie hasn't been the most successful senator at getting his bills
passed into laws.
He wants it all now. Right now.

Real life doesn't work like that.

Bernie would be a disaster as president and even worse
would be how his most stingent supporters would turn on him
the minute he had to compromise.
I saw that with President Obama

[highprincipleswork]

204. You simply don't listen.

[griffi94]

206. You simply think

reality is going to conform to your wishes.
It's not

Here's another hard real fact.
Nobody cares.

You were wishing Bernie would win.
He lost.

[highprincipleswork]

210. You do yourself a disservice. I'm trained to go way beyond thinking. All I see you doing here is

rattling off opinions that have been pretty much created by other people. Convenient ways to think. Lecturing people as to what you think is reality. What a crock! What an impoverished inquiry into what is real. Seriously, get a grip. Your vision of reality is not very real.

And if you don't care, that's even more pathetic. For you, as an individual. Learn to care, and become a human being.

[griffi94]

211. Hahahaha you're pretty funny

Trained to go way beyond thinking.

Are you a Jedi?

Math is real.
Bernie winning is a statistical impossibility now.

I don't care what the Bernie fans think or want or what they feel.
Bernie ran a nasty campaign.

He got his brains beat out on delegates won and votes cast.

What he or his supporters think doesn't have any bearing
on anything now.

I'm somehow supposed to care what they feel.

I don't and neither does the rest of America.

Fact. Bernie lost.
The Jedi couldn't save him.

[BreakfastClub]

215. +1 nt

[highprincipleswork]

220. Let me wish you good luck in finding so much higher principles in your thought and in

your life and in your reality.

They are out there. They feel good. They are good. And they work.

Not caring is not a high principle.

[griffi94]

221. Yeah...May the force be with you lol

[KPN]

187. Whereas Hillary has been tedious from the get go.

More like Hillary supporters are getting tedious. They have no answers, but act like attack dogs.

Bernie's influence will go far beyond what you may be able to imagine.

[Red Knight]

207. Yawn.

Got anything else?

[griffi94]

208. Just math

[JohnnyRingo]

212. Didn't you hear that the top 20% has more wealth than a bunch of people?

I mean I get it, but it's the salad, entree, and dessert of every speech I've heard. People get mad because the news channels don't play his speeches in their entirety, but they want viewers to stay tuned.

A friend of mine who is a supporter saw him in Cleveland and said it was a bit boring when he began repeating himself in the same speech. He said it was like he was stretching it out to meet a time obligation.

[griffi94]

214. Right

It's not a policy or a plan.

He's simply sloganeering.

And I'm not upset that rich people have money.

[BreakfastClub]

213. He's an insufferable blowhard. No wonder he's not well-liked by his colleagues. nt

[cali]

216. Sorry. Bernie's donor list and ten million voters confer a lot of power

[griffi94]

217. Of course they do

That's why he's only 295 pledged delegates down and millions of votes behind.

Cause they're so powerful

[cali]

224. When he returns to the Senate, dear. As virtually every pundit has noted.

[griffi94]

231. Well at least until 2018

And provided the Democrats let him keep his committee assignments.

Which I hope they dont.

[cali]

244. They will. He'll get whatever assignments he wants, and

you're delusional if you actually believe that we Vermonters will vote Bernie out. It delights me that we have so few conservadem voters like you in my state.

[griffi94]

247. Hahahaha

You thought Bernie was going to win
and I'm delusional lol.

You'll understand if I don't take your word for it
since your judgement so far hasn't exactly been spot on.

[cali]

251. Haha. Grab a fucking clue. I always forecast hilly was going to win

Look it the Fuck up.

[griffi94]

255. Oh good

Go Hillary

[cali]

260. Indeed. Go, hilly! A corrupt, self serving liar is better than trump.

Though that is the lowest bar imaginable.

[newsbytes]

218. Bernie will not be forgiven

he is just supporting donald trump and criticising hillary clinton. we all know who is good for the presidential nominee. he should be punished for such misleading actions and activities.

[nadinbrzezinski]

219. This is the fourth time I see this from different people

ergo this is now a talking point

Spotted one, can I keep it mom?

[TheKentuckian]

225. I'm sure he will receive his 15% of Joe Lieberman's punishment for endorsing and campaigning

for McCain including giving a prime time speech at the RNC.

What was it that happened to old Joe in response...that's right absolutely NOTHING yep even after he took out the Democratic candidate on the backs of the Republicans first as well.

Pipe down with your petty "revenge" fantasy, there will be no spare votes in the Senate anytime soon so you best get over it if you can't "forgive" (like it is some sin or wicked activity to dare challenge the DLC Queen...fucking delusional and entitled).

Plus, you jump too bad and you'll see consequences aren't one sided and can be more devastating than your sick little dreams ever could be.

[Vinca]

228. Does your new job pay well?

The font gives away the cut and paste job.

[B Calm]

226. The only thing he keeps pushing is a sprinkle of Socialism in a sea of Predatory Capitalism

How dare him!

[griffi94]

235. Well so far

What he's pushing has been soundly rejected
by the Democratic primary voters.

Maybe if yelled 1%, millionaires, Wall Street
a few more times and a little bit louder lol.

[B Calm]

236. Do you find Predatory Capitalism more attractive than social issues?

[griffi94]

239. It doesn't matter what I find attractive

The point of my OP is that Bernie lost.

The voters rejected him.
The majority of Democratic primary voters took a
look at him and said No Thanks.

And yet he continues to smear our candidate.
Not just stay in and talk about his issues.

His attacks have gotten tedious.
It's easy to sit and complain when you never get anything done.

[B Calm]

241. So it doesn't matter to you, got it!

[griffi94]

243. Exactly

I don't care......at all.

[B Calm]

246. Thanks for being honest!

[griffi94]

250. You're welcome

[B Calm]

252. What about the clothes pin for your nose?

[griffi94]

258. I've been voting since 1980

I'm used to the choices by now.

No nose holding required.

I prefer a president with management skills and experience
over promising big things that sound good in speeches
but can't get off the ground in reality.

Hillary will basically be a continuation of President Obamas
administration.

Steady if slow progress.
I'll stick with slow and steady over shiny and impossible.

[B Calm]

262. Hell your just a kid.

[griffi94]

264. Yep

See not all the youth vote went for Bernie.

[B Calm]

270. Even though I'm older than you, I'm a kid at heart. I hope I never grow up to the point

where I have to pinch my nose to vote for a candidate that will not keep predatory capitalists in check.

[griffi94]

272. There's a lot to be said for staying a kid at heart

If you're older than me you've already had some nose holding elections.

I look at it as just the nature of politics.

[B Calm]

275. This election there is a clear choice. I

can't say that about past elections.

[jane123]

227. Hate to burst your bubbles everyone

But have you looked at the recent polling...the many polls that show trump neck and neck with Clinton? I suggest you do because otherwise we will have a president trump....by the way, the guy you are all ridiculing looks to be the only candidate in the race that can decisively beat him...if you want to win in November.

[griffi94]

232. Bernie isn't going to beat Trump

Because Bernie isn't going to be our nominee.

He didn't get enough delegates.

[tk2kewl]

229. tedious details...

peace, not war
heathcare as a right
education as a right
wealth inequality
corrupt campaign finance
global financial/corporate/government conglomeration

[griffi94]

233. It looks great on paper

But Bernie couldn't deliver it.

He lost the majority of the Democratic voters when he couldn't
clearly explain how he would implement all that stuff

So now he just keeps screaming 1% Millionaires Wall Street.

And his agenda would add 18 trillion to the debt in 10 years.
And raise everybodys taxes. Even the middle class and the working poor.

I guess Bernie's not any better at math than his supporters are.

[tk2kewl]

240. "we" can deliver it if "we" want it

glad your satisfied with the status quo... me, not so much

[griffi94]

242. And there is your answer

The majority of Democratic voters didn't want it.
Or they didn't want to pay for it.
Or they didn't have any faith that Bernie was the man
who could deliver it.

Could be any or all of those but in any case
Bernie didn't get the delegates.

[tk2kewl]

248. at this point a thin majority of ~32% of the electorate

so roughly 16 or 17% of the electorate.

ignore the national polls and polls of independents if you like - Sanders is the better candidate for the GE

[griffi94]

253. Sanders isn't going to be the candidate in the GE

Yes I've seen the opinion polls and months out they mean less than squat.

But even if they were reliable.
It doesn't matter how the polls say Bernie would do
against Trump.
Bernie lost the primary. He's not going to run against Trump.

The constant wailing that Hillary loses obviously didn sway the Democrats
who voted in the primary.

I get it.
Bernie supporters don't think Hillary will win.

But Hillary supporters disagreed with them and more Hillary supporters voted.

It doesn't matter now how you think Bernie would have done in the GE.

He's not the nominee

[tk2kewl]

257. fyi... no one is the nominee yet

[griffi94]

259. Oh right

Bernie will never be the nominee.

He doesn't have the delegates and because
the states aren't winner take all there
aren't enough large delegate states for him to close the gap.

Is that better?

[tk2kewl]

261. we shall see

Hillary is by far the worst candidate the democrats have fielded since Dukakis... let's see how it works out

[griffi94]

263. Hahahahahaha

We're already seeing.

His YUGE victories in Indiana and WV tallied up
a grand total of +5 in pledged delegates.


Hillary's got this in the bag.

[tk2kewl]

276. if you say so

As far as I'm concerned Sanders is the candidate that best represents the ideas i want to see us work towards. Neoliberal economics and noeconservative foreign policy are not for me (not something to laugh at... hahaha )

[griffi94]

278. The delegate math says so

It's pretty straight forward.
And so not really open to interpretation.

[tk2kewl]

280. we are talking about 2 different things so really just stop already

hillary may well become the nominee... my position is that she is a lousy candidate

[griffi94]

281. Oh

I think she's a fine candidate.

Eye of the beholder I guess.

[LexVegas]

234. Yep. He is clinging to that spotlight, and Tad and Jeff are cashing in. nt

[griffi94]

237. I believe I read

That the donations have really fallen off in the last month.

It's a zombie campaign now.

He just keeps screaming the same few things over and over
and insisting that there's a way for him to win the nomination.

I think his refusal to accept the reality that he's lost is not only sad
but proves he'd be dangerous as president.

Is he really that delusional or is that just some red meat to keep
those dollars coming in.

[Fast Walker 52]

245. and yet more proof that Hillary supporters live in a different world

[griffi94]

249. Yeah the real one

Where accomplishments are an actual thing.

Slogans don't mean very much without some
tangible plan to get an agenda thru congress.

We need a political revolution isn't an answer when asked how you'll pay for
your proposals.

Math is also a thing here the real world.

[B Calm]

254. I agree, predatory capitalism is very real!

[Fast Walker 52]

265. what was Hillary's great accomplishment?

Being Sec'y of State?

[griffi94]

267. Senator from NY

Got the CHiP
program going. That's a lot of why working poor people love
her.

[LWolf]

268. I'm sure

the fact that he won't submit, won't go away, and continues to win, and to draw enthusiasm that your candidate does not, is a real burden to you.

[griffi94]

271. Read the thread

I think he sounds like a 2 note piano.
But I want him to stay in til the convention
so after Hillary is awarded the nomination on the first ballot
there's no doubt that he lost.

No crap about well he'd have won if he'd have fought
til the end.

She's going to be the nominee.
2 more months isn't going to matter.

At this point Sanders should try a different angle with his rhetoric.

Maybe promise to give everybody a popcicle.
Their choice of flavor as long as it's orange or grape.

[JonLeibowitz]

284. This thread is utterly transparent, I'm nearly dying laughing. Thanks!

[griffi94]

285. Glad I could brighten your day

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