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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:56 PM May 2016

It is not Operation Chaos. It is West Virginia Democrats that will NOT vote for Clinton.


There are plenty of Democrats that will NOT vote for Clinton in the general election. And trying to ignore the problem isn't going to make it go away.

I have family in WV and OH. MANY Democrats will NOT vote for another Clinton. And they aren't fooled by the phony studies that say NAFTA did not cause the loss of American Jobs.
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It is not Operation Chaos. It is West Virginia Democrats that will NOT vote for Clinton. (Original Post) Skwmom May 2016 OP
I would like to note that a third of Sanders supporters say they would hrmjustin May 2016 #1
Link? nt bunnies May 2016 #5
Low information voters -- But they know they're getting screwed by Trade and the Oliogarchs Armstead May 2016 #6
*Oligarchs Agschmid May 2016 #23
I was thinking of margerine Armstead May 2016 #24
Me too, I chuckled. Agschmid May 2016 #25
Oddly enough Aerows May 2016 #34
Wow. She's that bad? Driving Democrats to go the other way? CentralCoaster May 2016 #8
And 28% of Hillary backers said they'd vote McCain if Obama v. McCain pat_k May 2016 #15
. . . Depaysement May 2016 #19
Link. I saw that only Clinton, Trump, and neither were the answers. So it was a Trump v Clinton Skwmom May 2016 #20
On cnn just now they said a third of Sanders supporters would for Trump if it was hrmjustin May 2016 #21
Oh yeah, Clinton News Network is really believable Skwmom May 2016 #29
It is from the exit polls. hrmjustin May 2016 #31
Sanders supporters would vote for Trump over Sanders? What? jillan May 2016 #26
Its an open primary Travis_0004 May 2016 #28
Republicans CAN NOT vote in the WV Democratic Primary. Skwmom May 2016 #30
I'd love to see a citable source for that. intheflow May 2016 #36
Here's what theyre saying at hillcamp:) litlbilly May 2016 #2
White, male, class struggle Depaysement May 2016 #9
You can smell the desperation over there. She beat Obama by 40 in WV in 08 litlbilly May 2016 #11
Really stupid Depaysement May 2016 #13
The primary vote was between Bernie and Hillary. Seems to me those 40% voted Autumn May 2016 #38
lolok PeaceNikki May 2016 #3
I dont see one smart post over there, so, ill just put Camp HIll on ignore again. litlbilly May 2016 #4
There is no 'Operation Chaos' AgingAmerican May 2016 #7
just like they wouldn't vote for Obama dsc May 2016 #10
Sorry 44% who voted for Sanders Demsrule86 May 2016 #12
So, anybody but Clinton then, right? nt. polly7 May 2016 #17
Even if all DUers who favor Sanders voted for Clinton, intheflow May 2016 #37
West Virginia hasn't voted for the Democrat Il_Coniglietto May 2016 #14
All they are trying to do now is eke out the win. The think by triangulating Trump into silvershadow May 2016 #16
It's only may, we have 6 months to go... dubyadiprecession May 2016 #18
And 40% of them who voted for Bernie said they wouldn't vote for him in the GE. nt Jitter65 May 2016 #22
Why do you guys say crap like this? AgingAmerican May 2016 #42
Gee, can't think why. ucrdem May 2016 #27
They will be voting for Trump in the GE workinclasszero May 2016 #32
As Democrats, I'm sure we can all agree that no good liberal wants to see a future in coal. anotherproletariat May 2016 #33
There is no such thing as 'operation chaos' AgingAmerican May 2016 #35
Same Dems who didn't vote for Obama. JoePhilly May 2016 #39
Or Obama or Sanders, in the GE. seabeyond May 2016 #40
44% of WV voters for Sanders workinclasszero May 2016 #41
They are only Trump supporters if Clinton get the nomination. Otherwise, they are Sanders supporters mhatrw May 2016 #43
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
1. I would like to note that a third of Sanders supporters say they would
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:00 PM
May 2016

vote for Trump against Sanders.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
6. Low information voters -- But they know they're getting screwed by Trade and the Oliogarchs
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:04 PM
May 2016

If the Democrats were smart they'd get behind the PROGRESSIVE populist agenda that Sanders represents -- not warmed over Corporate Elite Crap.



 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
34. Oddly enough
Wed May 11, 2016, 04:06 AM
May 2016

when the first oleo was made, manufacturers were forbidden by law to make it yellow because the dairy industry lobbied against it. I was a couple of decades before they were allowed to color margarine yellow!

So it was a bit of oleogarchy protecting the dairy industry bigwigs

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
8. Wow. She's that bad? Driving Democrats to go the other way?
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:06 PM
May 2016

I can see that. People are hungry for an FDR strength Democrat. She ain't one.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
20. Link. I saw that only Clinton, Trump, and neither were the answers. So it was a Trump v Clinton
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:04 PM
May 2016

in the general election they were asking about.
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
21. On cnn just now they said a third of Sanders supporters would for Trump if it was
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:33 PM
May 2016

a Sanders-trump race.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
29. Oh yeah, Clinton News Network is really believable
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:48 PM
May 2016


Our corporate media could teach Russia a thing or two about propaganda.
 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
28. Its an open primary
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:22 PM
May 2016

The republicans race is over so if a republican was smart they would all vote for sanders.

Extend the primary, cause more divide in the party, and force both sides to spend more money on primary ads.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
9. White, male, class struggle
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:09 PM
May 2016

Hillbots and their trifecta of hate. I can just smell that Wall Street "liberalism."

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
11. You can smell the desperation over there. She beat Obama by 40 in WV in 08
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:13 PM
May 2016

so that says a lot. They are coming right out and saying she lost because all the repubs voted for Bernie. How stupid is that?

Autumn

(45,048 posts)
38. The primary vote was between Bernie and Hillary. Seems to me those 40% voted
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:28 AM
May 2016

for the lesser of two evils. To me it shows how much she is disliked that conservative democrats would vote for a Socialist over her. I saw nothing that shows they are staunch Bernie supporters. They grab onto whatever they can though.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
7. There is no 'Operation Chaos'
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

That is just the latest emailed David Brock talking point. They expose themselves when 20 of them all start saying it simultaneously.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
10. just like they wouldn't vote for Obama
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:11 PM
May 2016

and for largely the same reasons, she is against coal and she embraced Obama. And both of those are the proper stances to take and I am glad she took them. We won't win, and we don't need to win WV. BTW they wouldn't vote for Bernie either since he is also against coal. Once that came out widely it would be as over for him there as it is for her.

intheflow

(28,462 posts)
37. Even if all DUers who favor Sanders voted for Clinton,
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:17 AM
May 2016

it wouldn't change the fact that "anybody but Clinton" is what will motivate a lot of independent and conservative voters in the general, even if it only motivates them to sit this one out.

Il_Coniglietto

(373 posts)
14. West Virginia hasn't voted for the Democrat
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:18 PM
May 2016

in the general election since 1996. Thankfully, Dems can and have won without it. No Democrat should be pinning their election hopes on WV voters.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
16. All they are trying to do now is eke out the win. The think by triangulating Trump into
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:23 PM
May 2016

position she will win by default. That's what they are thinking anyway.

dubyadiprecession

(5,706 posts)
18. It's only may, we have 6 months to go...
Tue May 10, 2016, 09:30 PM
May 2016

So relax. we're still a couple of months away from just the conventions.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
33. As Democrats, I'm sure we can all agree that no good liberal wants to see a future in coal.
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:54 PM
May 2016

If that means giving WV to the repubs, so be it. The gains elsewhere will far make up for that small number of electoral college votes. Hillary's comments did include that coal miners need to be retrained and an investment needs to be put into getting them employed in other industries, again...something that we all should agree with.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
35. There is no such thing as 'operation chaos'
Wed May 11, 2016, 04:44 AM
May 2016

I have heard it many times over the last week or so. Talking point du jour. They blame everything on it. Classic cognitive dissonance.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
41. 44% of WV voters for Sanders
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:35 AM
May 2016

will be voting for Trump in the GE.

Operation Chaos for damn sure. The right wing are playing progressives like a fiddle.

Just like Nader. And the suckers fall right into the trap again and again and again!

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
43. They are only Trump supporters if Clinton get the nomination. Otherwise, they are Sanders supporters
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:38 PM
May 2016

and reliable Democratic voters.

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