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Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:59 AM May 2016

Are we ignoring the new polls today showing Trump tying or beating Clinton in Swing States?

The Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll released Tuesday has Clinton up by a single point in both Florida (43%-42%) and Pennsylvania (43%-42%), while Trump leads Clinton in Ohio by 43%-to-39%

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/10/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-quinnipiac-poll-florida-ohio-pennsylvania/84173448/
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Because that is bad bad news. Hillary's numbers only go down as a campaign progresses.

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Are we ignoring the new polls today showing Trump tying or beating Clinton in Swing States? (Original Post) Joe the Revelator May 2016 OP
A certain group is for sure. nm floriduck May 2016 #1
There have been multiple posts on this subject nt firebrand80 May 2016 #2
Ignoring for now SheenaR May 2016 #3
There is nothing wrong with Quinnipiac Demsrule86 May 2016 #21
There's only one candidate being attacked right now BeyondGeography May 2016 #4
Are we ignoring that Bernie is only ONE POINT better in FL? Electability!! CrowCityDem May 2016 #5
That's not the argument you want to make...'Our candidate is beating a marginally better candidate!' Joe the Revelator May 2016 #6
Bernie's been saying for months "I do better". That is now seriously in question. CrowCityDem May 2016 #7
Because he's actually doing better? By your own admission? Joe the Revelator May 2016 #9
So we upend democracy for one percentage point? CrowCityDem May 2016 #10
You're all over the place friend. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #11
Again Demsrule86 May 2016 #20
are we ignoring Bernie up by significant margins in all other states where HRC loses or is tied stat amborin May 2016 #8
Quinnipiac...wrong all the time and under samples POCs. Jitter65 May 2016 #12
There it is! Joe the Revelator May 2016 #13
Is that unfavorable to Hillary? If so they answer is yes those polls will be ignored. Autumn May 2016 #14
Been ignoring such polls for months Triana May 2016 #15
did you look at the polls? Demsrule86 May 2016 #19
Yes. Polls only matter when they are good for Clinton. jeff47 May 2016 #16
Again Math challanged Demsrule86 May 2016 #17
But, but, but St. Nick Silver said Trump wouldn't even make it to the general election so that CAN'T Attorney in Texas May 2016 #18

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
3. Ignoring for now
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:02 PM
May 2016

Prepping for the attack on Quinnipiac shortly.

Scary numbers. And they haven't even scratched the surface of the attacks they will levy on her

But hey Joe, Bernie has never been vetted before so let's roll the dice

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
21. There is nothing wrong with Quinnipiac
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

Your interpretation of it is wrong. It shows why we need to end this useless primary now and start fighting for the general. Berne was within the margin of error except in PA which is ridiculous because the population he would need to pull votes from is diverse and he can't win in such areas. Voters would not turn out as they feel he insulted them.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
6. That's not the argument you want to make...'Our candidate is beating a marginally better candidate!'
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:05 PM
May 2016

Come on now.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
11. You're all over the place friend.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:10 PM
May 2016

To answer no, but the fact that he out preforms her by lots of percentage points across states we NEED to win means we should look at nominating the stronger GE candidate.

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
20. Again
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

You didn't read the poll unless you consider a 1 point margin better which it is not. It is within the margin of error...the only exception is PA and I promise you Sanders will not win PA. I used to live there. The cities which are diverse give us the votes for the presidency...it is Alabama between Pittsburgh and Philly and between Philly and New York. Sanders can not win the minority vote. They won't turn out for him as many believe he discounted their electoral importance with some of his remarks about Southern states. Sander is losing ground...earlier polls showed him beating Trump by more. What is disturbing is during this useless faux primary (it is over folks)Trump is gaining ground. And the longer this travesty of a primary continues the worse it will be for our side.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
8. are we ignoring Bernie up by significant margins in all other states where HRC loses or is tied stat
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:07 PM
May 2016

istically?

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
12. Quinnipiac...wrong all the time and under samples POCs.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:12 PM
May 2016

As soon as Bernie's plan for raising taxes on everyone gets out there he will fall way behind Hillary. Heard Grover today on radio making the case about Hillary raising taxes and being a flip-flopper. What do you think he will do with Bernie's plan? They are hoping like anything to have to run against Bernie instead of Hillary.

Autumn

(45,058 posts)
14. Is that unfavorable to Hillary? If so they answer is yes those polls will be ignored.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:16 PM
May 2016

Or explained away or pivot to Bernie needs to drop out now!!

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
19. did you look at the polls?
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

He has a slight advantage in PA. Everything else is within the margin of error...and if you go to the Quinnipiac website...Bernie is not included in many of the questions.

ttps://www.qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2345

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
16. Yes. Polls only matter when they are good for Clinton.
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

If they are not good for Clinton, then they are an unreliable, right-wing pollster.

Even if the exact same pollster is cited when polling results are good for Clinton.

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
17. Again Math challanged
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:33 PM
May 2016

Quinnipiac is within the margin of error and is tied. Slight Bernie advantage in PA. Seriously embarrassed for you. Oh, and when I click on your link it takes me to a Rasmussen talk. I looked up the real poll on the website. Bernie is not even included in all the questions. But this poll does indicate one thing. We face a tough battle in the fall and the sooner we get to it the better...end your campaign Bernie...show you really mean the things you say.

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