2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum#DropOutHillary Hashtag: Only a Female Front Runner Would Be Told to Drop Out & Make Way For a Male
A trending hashtag on Twitter admonishes the Democratic frontrunner: #DropOutHillary. This is a perfect example of the demeaning, condescending, unfair treatment to which Hillary Clinton is subjected.
Hillary Clinton is winning. She is the front runner. She has a commanding lead in pledged delegates, in superdelegates, in votes. Bernie Sanders’ path to the nomination is virtually nonexistent, contingent upon an exceedingly unlikely scenario in which Hillary does not reach the requisite number of pledged delegates before the convention and a majority of superdelegates inexplicably abandon a thoroughly vetted and extremely qualified front runner.
Barring some extraordinary set of circumstances, Hillary will be the Democratic nominee.
No other front runner with such a clear path to the nomination would be subjected to this sort of belittling suggestion to drop out.
Even Trump, a wildly unpopular candidate with his own party leaders, has not been publicly admonished to drop out. The “Never Trump” campaign doesn’t presume to tell him that he should drop out.
This dynamic will surely be familiar to a lot of women. It is familiar to me. An eminently qualified woman being told to step aside to make room for a less qualified man? Been there, heard that.
I’m going to bet that I’m not the only woman who has a problem with people telling a woman who’s winning, and has the best shot to be the first female president, to drop out to make way for a male candidate who is losing and who has nowhere near her level of experience, competency, and preparedness.
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hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)According to those same people, he was (and still is) the leading independent candidate.
So why the hate? Is he female?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Pledged delegates
Total votes
Superdelegates
States won
hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)So why the howling that he drop?
Seems like you've got a double-standard.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)She is not...women have been told for years to let the boys handle it...no more...go Hillary you beat Sanders and you earned it.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)Mostly caused by her horrid judgement, not because of her gender.
The republican nominee also has horrid favorability and has been told to drop out.
This is what happens when you have two bad choices that no one likes.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Having a strange time coping with his clear loss.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)Good luck.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)ram2008
(1,238 posts)Namely, the e-mail investigation which just got brand new fire. (4 years of emails vanishing, really?). Republicans scouring their connections for Hillary's transcripts, which will surely be found somehow. Trump tacking to the left of Hillary on foreign policy, trade, and money in politics and clobbering her on the wrong stances she took which she's not flipped on.
The fact is the longer Hillary has been in the spotlight the worse her numbers have gotten.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)For wishing us good luck. Bless your heart!
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Democratic Party Loyalists now number ONLY a mere 29% of all registered voters.
The Republicans can only claim a whopping 19%.
This leave a huge crowd of indies who are free to vote for anyone but Hillary.
And if you think people won't vote for her because she is female, maybe you should consider:
She is under investigation for her role in The Clinton Foundation.
The wars in the Middle East that her State Department helped to spread have reduced many of the cities and even nations there into big piles of rubble.
Her alliance to Big Financial firms is not pleasing to many in the middle class.
She also is firmly entrenched in her support for NAFTA, and her recent statements that she supports TTP.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Yes.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Making up sexist bullshit,
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)They like that she usually ignores the nuances of gender and race struggles in favor of vague class struggles.
Logical
(22,457 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Youre voting for the only candidate running who actually has voted to deregulate Wall Street.
Logical
(22,457 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)The myth of Bernie Sanders overtake the actual Bernie Sanders. Hint: Bernie voted to deregulate wall Street. Not Hillary. Look it up.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Problem solved. But she knows the shit she said will destroy her.
if you think hill does not worship wall street then no reason not to release them.
Hekate
(90,645 posts)....applied to her regarding speeches.
Where are the goddam tax returns for Jane and Bernie? Why so coy? What are they hiding? Or is it a matter of simple incompetence?
We need to know.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Maybe because Liz Warren stands now as she has always stood, with the middle class,
Unlike Ms "I have never met a Banker or Corporation I didn't absolutely love to help!" Clinton.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)The candidate with the overwhelming majority of feminist support, middle class support, communities of color support, or that guy with the bad hair, the tangerine terror.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)an eternity, Bernie Sanders!
msongs
(67,395 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Lolololololol
Hekate
(90,645 posts)Please inform us.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I'm stunned that you think that subbing an "acceptable" woman proves anything but the fact that you seem to think that women are interchangeable? Warren isn't qualified to be President, and she knows that. That's why she isn't running.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Liking hillary because she is a woman shows you are clueless. It is because she is a right leaning bad candidate.
But keep using the sexist excuse if it makes you feel better.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Warren is not qualified to be President. Thus, comparisons to HRC on this regard suggest a maladaptive approach to gender.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Seems a little disingenuous
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)It like you want someone to respond to the quote as if it came from someone besides you
I dont understa d tbe quote marks when you weren't qouting so much as repeating yourself..and only yourself
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)on quotation marks, the administration at this website does not allow for emphasized speech in the titles. So I can neither bold nor italicize in titles. Take it up with Skinner.
So if you are attempting to be a grammar Nazi with me, perhaps you missed the thread where I stated that due to diminishing eyesight I rely on a voice to text app. It is limited as to what it will do for me. It misspells constantly. It also does not do single quotation marks. Nor Asterix.
A simple diagram of the parts of speech of my sentence with reveal the purpose of the quotation marks. It's a skill worth having.
Logical
(22,457 posts)And it has nothing to do with her being a woman?
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)
Autumn
(45,057 posts)
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I can't fucking believe how fucking stupid the premise of this post is.
But then I saw your link and it all made perfect sense.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)boomer55
(592 posts)ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)
griffi94
(3,733 posts)But a male who is trailing by hundreds of delegates
and millions of actual votes.
The only hope he's ever had is if she drops out.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)You got to love the bernie bros. Their sexism knows no bounds
Gore1FL
(21,128 posts)
cui bono
(19,926 posts)This playing the gender card knows no bounds. I'm tempted to use the term HillaryHags just to counter your slur of "bernie bros" but I won't.
But it's pretty fucking ironic when you use a sexist term at a time when you think you are fighting against sexism. You are using a slur that defines Bernie supporters as misogynists and racists for all Bernie supporters and he happens to have a lot of female supporters, of which I am one. I am no where near a Bernie Bro yet you are calling me that with your post. So you are calling WOMEN "bernie bros" while playing gender card. Hey, it's a twofer! Being sexist and making a mockery of feminism in one post. Bravo.
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Gothmog
(145,130 posts)
BlindTiresias
(1,563 posts)
kiva
(4,373 posts)people shouting SEXIST! in situations that clearly aren't about gender - like your post, for example.
There many genuine cases of sexism that are affecting women, and faux sexist outrage makes it harder to fight actual problems.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)As a (male) lawyer, what I noticed was that no evidence is adduced for the allegation that opposition to Clinton is sexist.
For everyone who's not a lawyer, though, I think your point is likely to be more persuasive.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)And trivializing women's fight for equality.
But then this isn't the only ism that is being exploited to support Hillary and smear Bernie. It's truly disgusting.
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basselope
(2,565 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)The #hashtag is so silly and means nothing. Let the primary play out and winner is the winner of the primary. Then we can each work on deciding who to vote for in the Primary.
I don't think it is sexist at all...I think Hillary is just heavily disliked by some. Don't let it trouble you.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)"You need a strategy," Obama said, adding passion and anger are not enough to effect political change and encouraging them to embrace compromise. "Not just hashtags but votes."
- President Obama
Hillary supporters came out and voted.
Bernie supporters stayed home and clicked their mouses.
revmclaren
(2,515 posts)because they know he will campaign for her full force when the primary is over. Its so very obvious but totally futile.
Last gasps. July 29th coming fast.
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)in pledged delegates and actual votes.
3 million more votes.
So it seems that in between clickety clicking
Hillarys supporters actually went out and voted.
She crushed Bernie.
Hundreds more delegates and millions more votes.
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)It's time for Donald Trump to drop out of the race for president of the United States.
People who run for public office typically perform a great public service, regardless of whether they win on Election Day. That's particularly true of presidential candidates, most of whom must devote two years of their lives to hard-fought campaigns that involve staggering personal and financial sacrifices, all in an effort to serve their country.
And then there's Trump.
- Des Moines Register
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry delivered a blistering critique of Donald Trump Wednesday, decrying the real estate mogul's "barking carnival act" and likening it to a "cancer."
"Let no one be mistaken - Donald Trump's candidacy is a cancer on conservatism, and it must be clearly diagnosed, excised and discarded," the 2016 presidential hopeful said during remarks in Washington D.C. "It cannot be pacified or ignored, for it will destroy a set of principles that has lifted more people out of poverty than any force in the history of the civilized world - the cause of conservatism."
Perry, who is also seeking the GOP nomination for president, called for Trump to drop out of the race on Saturday after Trump made comments questioning John McCain's military service.
- NBC News
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)Meanwhile, a prominent civil rights group on Monday called for Trump to drop out of the race on account of his consistent "perpetuation of bigotry, fear and hatred."
"Since entering the race for the Republican Nomination, Trump has spewed hate rhetoric that has incited an increase in the number of attacks targeting Arab and Muslim Americans," officials with the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC), said in a statement.
"His campaign is based on the perpetuation of bigotry, fear and hatred.” Time and time again Trump has shown that he has no respect for the U.S. Constitution, and American values," they added.
"Trump is an embarrassment to the American electoral process, the Republican Party, democratic principles and the country. His words and actions continue to exhibit the worst America has to offer by playing into people's fears and biases through lies, deception and faulty logic," the statement read.
- NY Daily News
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)The go-to excuse for everything.
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)Republican U.S. Senate candidate David Jolly says Donald Trump needs to leave the race for president and wants other candidates to join him in that call.
"While ISIS is beheading innocent people for their religious practices, Trump is betraying our freedoms," Jolly said in a statement. "His brutal, bullying bigotry runs contrary to the very principles our forefathers fought so hard to defend. We are either a party of protecting the constitution and religious liberties or we're not. America should insist on a security test but never a religious test."
- Tampa Bay Times
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)Anthony Evans, president of the National Black Church Initiative, called for Trump to drop out of the race, saying in a statement, “We will oppose him and others through our moral goodness.” Neichelle Guidry, a minister at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, tweeted Tuesday morning, “currently in Ramallah, hearing the call to prayer outside of the window. if only Trump could hear this. hard to hate something so beautiful.”
- Time
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)In December, the prince called for Trump to drop out of the race, calling him "a disgrace not only to the GOP but to all America."
Trump responded to that tweet by calling Alwaleed "dopey" and accusing him of wanting to control the U.S. politicians "with daddy's money."
- Politico
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)have past 8 months being some of the most noxious jerkholes the internet has ever seen--- while themselves ironically laying down a neverending pot-calling-kettlicious stream of bullshit about "berniebros" and the like.
I doubt too many people really think she's gonna drop out. But if it pisses off the Brock bots (Cough. "bluenationreview". Cough.) , I suspect it is mission accomplished for whoever started it.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Very weak sauce. But I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
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Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)But that's something your side has never wanted to discuss, is it?
coyote
(1,561 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Let me put that in Hillary supporter terms: "stop mansplaining" to us women. Whine, whine, whine, without taking any responsibility as a HUMAN BEING. You guys just keep setting back feminism every time you play the gender card to try to boost Hillary. Is she that weak of a candidate? Is she that weak a woman? If so, she should drop out. Pronto. At this point she should drop out to save feminism.
How fucking ridiculous. Bernie is being told to drop out every day by Hillary supporters to make way for a woman.
What a crock of shit, but then isn't this from that smearmongerer Brock's site? Shame on anyone posting his smears on here. Disgusting.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...which hashtag came first: #DropOutBernie vs #DropOutHillary
My recollection is that #DropOutBernie came first.
Maybe if Hillary's minions hadn't picked that fight, there would be no #DropOutHillary hashtag in the first place.
But no, that's too rational. I know, let's accuse the BernieBros of sexism! Yeah, that's the ticket!!
Vinca
(50,267 posts)Poor, poor Hillary. Women shouldn't be as oppressed as she apparently is. It's a shame they kept her locked in the kitchen for the past 25 years. She might have made something of herself if the old, mean men had allowed it. 
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Vs Trump, we will be forced to hold our nose to vote for the lesser of two evils and that's so fucking sad!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And the white knucklers are demanding she drops out. Pretty obvious, isn't it?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)You can count on that!
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Like, "How do you like it when people say it to your candidate?"
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Twitter is big now, so there are hashtags which say "DropOutBernie" and "DropOutHillary."
If Twitter had been big 8 years ago, there would have been hashtags saying "DropOutBarack" and "DropOutHillary," regardless of Obama being the lead.
David Brock is making money by portraying Sanders' supporters as sexist, but the rest of America should realize David Brock is a slimeball.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)You spend the entire primary telling us how misogynist we are. Then you ask to vote for a woman in the general. That makes no sense.
Unless you are lying about the whole misogyny thing. But you wouldn't do something that disgusting.
