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Sun May 8, 2016, 04:58 PM

 

My 10,000 Post & Almost 12 years on DU!

I'd like to start by thanking the admins for creating this site and helping keep me sane during the horrible Bush years: THANK YOU, SKINNER, EARLG and ELAD. You guys have created an AMAZING on-line community.

I joined this site during the summer of 2004 while volunteering for John Kerry, and it ended up dramatically impacting my life in a variety of ways. The first "big time" began on election night 2004 (while sick with bronchitis/unable to sleep) when I was able to identify some statistical anomalies in New Hampshire, and with the support of people here on DU, ended up leading the charge for a recount there, then got involved in election integrity issues; I made several friends "in real life" at that time (Andy Stephenson is still missed), and still pay attention to election integrity issues.

DU has been a strong support place for me in my personal life as well. My father passed in 2005, my twins were born in 2007, and I have shared family dramas and challenges in many a post, with support given and received. I was honored by a "front page" pin about my experience as a Red Cross volunteer during Hurricane Katrina, proud to announce having "beaten a bank" during an illegal foreclosure proceeding, and my efforts to help families of premature infants and special needs children were strengthened by the people on this board. I am grateful for all of you for those times.

Politically, I have evolved during the last twelve years. Originally, I was a "firm Independent", a status that didn't change until 2012 when President Obama made me realize it was time to embrace the fact that:
1) supporting Democrats with my votes,
2) volunteering and donating to them, while
3) agreeing with the party platform at an extraordinary high level
4) consistently for decades
meant that I really was a Democrat. I remain proud of President Obama's efforts, and grateful for his leadership.

On this board I have argued political positions and policies, debated the merits of candidates, jeered at Republican foolishness, and fretted over flame wars that burned brightly, then faded like the memory of candlelight. On two separate occasions my participation on this forum prompted (offline) death threats, which I am grateful were never more than bluster. I am at this milestone, having typed ten thousand posts, and wanting all of you to know how much I appreciate this board, and the people who have joined me in participating in it.

I made a decision to post this in "GDP" because I am going to mention this presidential election. I am currently a Bernie Sanders supporter. If Hillary Clinton becomes the Democratic nominee, I will not be able to support her, and will switch my voter registration back to Independent. I will continue to support down ticket Democrats, but not any "super Delegates" who vote for her at the Convention.

Like a large percentage of Americans, I believe Hillary Clinton is an untrustworthy liar who has used her political power and position to personally enrich herself and her family. I believe her judgment to be bad, her stated positions to be in opposition of her actions, and her pandering to be insincere because bluntly, I can't tell which team she is lying to. I don't trust her on abortion, LGBT, foreign relations, environmental concerns, civil rights, privacy, or even common sense use of computers. She has been an abysmal failure as an advocate for women and children, and I am honestly expecting her to be on the receiving end of a criminal indictment in the near future.

This change in my opinion from a simple concern about "immediate family of a living President running for office" (I considered it Republican corruption with the Bushes) to active disdain for her came as a shock to me, but has grown stronger the more I have investigated her actions, and should not be confused with support for the Republicans or even "passion for Bernie". I had previously supported and defended the Clintons against what I thought was unwarranted hostility, but Hillary's actions during her tenure as Secretary of State, combined with the questionable fundraising over at the Clinton Foundation, now has me angry at myself for having been fooled by the letter after their names because corruption is corruption and I know it when I see it.

I have been struggling with this issue since mid-March when I began to grasp the significance of what I had previously dismissed as "those stupid emails". I am lucky that DU is still in "primary season" but if the worst happens, and Hillary does get the nomination in July, then this place which has meant so much to me for the last twelve years, may not welcome me anymore. I have already begun my grieving process over that, but in the meantime, I choose to be hopeful. And yes, I know that my honesty about this issue has many people eager to type a "good riddance and don't let the door hit you!" reply.

I know you, DU. Kind words don't get near the views as a little bit of fussing at each other.

Maybe it's part of what I've grown to love about you so much?

Twelve years. Ten thousand posts. The primary is not over, and I hope to be here when it ends. If I am not, please take this milestone post as a positive memory because I REALLY want you to know this:

I appreciate you. I'm grateful for all of you. Thank you for EVERYTHING. You have been (and hopefully will continue to be) an amazing part of my life. No matter what happens --

THANK YOU!!!

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Reply My 10,000 Post & Almost 12 years on DU! (Original post)
IdaBriggs May 2016 OP
Tarc May 2016 #1
bahrbearian May 2016 #17
Matariki May 2016 #36
Tarc May 2016 #39
Hortensis May 2016 #89
IdaBriggs May 2016 #91
Tarc May 2016 #94
WhiteTara May 2016 #101
bigwillq May 2016 #2
IdaBriggs May 2016 #43
ebayfool May 2016 #3
IdaBriggs May 2016 #44
CoffeeCat May 2016 #4
IdaBriggs May 2016 #45
CoffeeCat May 2016 #57
MFM008 May 2016 #5
Fawke Em May 2016 #37
LineLineLineReply .
leeroysphitz May 2016 #60
shraby May 2016 #6
Duckhunter935 May 2016 #10
Dragonfli May 2016 #13
IdaBriggs May 2016 #46
pmorlan1 May 2016 #7
IdaBriggs May 2016 #47
pmorlan1 May 2016 #112
2cannan May 2016 #8
IdaBriggs May 2016 #48
Duckhunter935 May 2016 #9
IdaBriggs May 2016 #49
Dragonfli May 2016 #11
IdaBriggs May 2016 #50
7wo7rees May 2016 #12
IdaBriggs May 2016 #51
bvar22 May 2016 #14
IdaBriggs May 2016 #53
kgnu_fan May 2016 #15
IdaBriggs May 2016 #55
OKNancy May 2016 #16
MelissaB May 2016 #26
IdaBriggs May 2016 #58
Sky Masterson May 2016 #18
IdaBriggs May 2016 #59
JaneyVee May 2016 #19
Duckhunter935 May 2016 #30
Fawke Em May 2016 #38
IdaBriggs May 2016 #93
Armstead May 2016 #20
IdaBriggs May 2016 #62
Armstead May 2016 #65
Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #21
IdaBriggs May 2016 #63
pdsimdars May 2016 #22
IdaBriggs May 2016 #64
PufPuf23 May 2016 #23
IdaBriggs May 2016 #66
Uncle Joe May 2016 #24
IdaBriggs May 2016 #67
MelissaB May 2016 #25
IdaBriggs May 2016 #68
kstewart33 May 2016 #27
IdaBriggs May 2016 #69
Mike Nelson May 2016 #28
Armstead May 2016 #41
IdaBriggs May 2016 #70
Agony May 2016 #29
IdaBriggs May 2016 #71
pat_k May 2016 #31
Armstead May 2016 #40
kgnu_fan May 2016 #56
IdaBriggs May 2016 #73
Punkingal May 2016 #32
IdaBriggs May 2016 #74
Punkingal May 2016 #111
shanti May 2016 #33
IdaBriggs May 2016 #75
moriah May 2016 #34
IdaBriggs May 2016 #78
moriah May 2016 #82
Matariki May 2016 #35
IdaBriggs May 2016 #80
ebayfool May 2016 #100
IdaBriggs May 2016 #106
Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #42
nolabels May 2016 #61
IdaBriggs May 2016 #81
EndElectoral May 2016 #52
IdaBriggs May 2016 #84
joshcryer May 2016 #54
IdaBriggs May 2016 #85
KoKo May 2016 #72
IdaBriggs May 2016 #86
NCTraveler May 2016 #76
IdaBriggs May 2016 #95
redwitch May 2016 #77
IdaBriggs May 2016 #87
unapatriciated May 2016 #79
IdaBriggs May 2016 #88
Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #83
IdaBriggs May 2016 #90
CTyankee May 2016 #92
IdaBriggs May 2016 #96
CTyankee May 2016 #97
TheBlackAdder May 2016 #98
IdaBriggs May 2016 #103
asuhornets May 2016 #99
IdaBriggs May 2016 #104
asuhornets May 2016 #107
IdaBriggs May 2016 #108
asuhornets May 2016 #109
IdaBriggs May 2016 #110
farleftlib May 2016 #102
IdaBriggs May 2016 #105
StevieM May 2016 #113

Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:00 PM

1. "If Hillary Clinton becomes the Democratic nominee, I will not be able to support her"

This pretty much invalidates the other 9,999 posts.

Haste la vista...

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Response to Tarc (Reply #1)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:07 PM

17. Vote for "I made a Mistake"

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Response to Tarc (Reply #1)

Sun May 8, 2016, 08:45 PM

36. Congratulations for getting the first reply

and making it such a grubby one.

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Response to Matariki (Reply #36)

Sun May 8, 2016, 09:17 PM

39. /tips cap

I'd say something snarky in return, but you have good taste in anime.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #1)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:32 AM

89. Don't know about the 9999, but what goes on

in people's heads? Has the GOP been implanting hillhate chips or something?

IdaBriggs, we are at a major crossroads in 2016. You'll either vote for Hillary in the fall or you are completely mistaken about who you are.


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Response to Tarc (Reply #1)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:52 AM

91. #10,035: Briefly unhiding you to write a "thank you note" --

 

Only to discover there was no need. Your post is exactly the opposite of what makes this board wonderful. Hopefully, regardless of how the Primary ends, the admins will reinstate the "be respectful and courteous" rules again.

So, since I can't say "thank you" for any kindness your post offered, I will say "thank you for being a bad example so I know what I don't want to become".

Everyone has a purpose in life, and if this is yours, you are a sucess!

You are welcome to the last word - please don't be offended if I don't reply, since it is easier for me to use "ignore" when personal attacks like the one you made at me are the norm from a poster.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #91)

Mon May 9, 2016, 12:08 PM

94. /slow clap


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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #91)

Mon May 9, 2016, 03:08 PM

101. Why would you want to stay

on a DEMOCRATIC board if we have a president you don't want? Seems this is your early "I'm leaving post."

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:02 PM

2. Congrats on 10,000 posts and 12 years!

 


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Response to bigwillq (Reply #2)

Mon May 9, 2016, 08:59 AM

43. #10,001: Thank you for your awesome bouncy congratulations!

 

Totally made my day!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:05 PM

3. I've been here almost as long, but post way less. Congratulations, Ida - you've long been ...

a cherished DUer! And you do much better landmark posts - when I hit my 1st thousandth post ... I forgot, and posted something memorable like 'oh shit'.

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Response to ebayfool (Reply #3)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:02 AM

44. #10,002: Thank you -- and I almost missed it, too!

 

And in the past, there is a good chance some of my other milestone posts might not have been so thoughtful/more similar to your thousandth, also!

"A cherished DUer!" Thank you so much!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:08 PM

4. What a heartfelt, honest and kind post

Congrats on your 10,000 milestone.

Thanks for sharing so much of your life; and your insightful thoughts and opinions as well.

I appreciate that you are here. 🌟😃🌟

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #4)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:03 AM

45. #10,003: Thank you so much!

 

You know you are one of my favorites, right?

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #45)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:38 AM

57. That is too sweet

I'm very flattered.

Well, right back at you, friend.

I appreciate your research and discussion into the FBI investigation of Clinton's email server. It's an important issue and good Democrats need to be informed. There's a great deal of bullying going on now, trying to chill discussion of this critical issue. I applaud you for refusing to ignore the 'elephant in the living room.'

I look forward to your next 10,000 posts!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:09 PM

5. congrats on your perseverance

I just disagree with your position on HRC. Im not going to let republicans tell me shes a liar.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #5)

Sun May 8, 2016, 08:58 PM

37. What if she tells you she's a liar?

In 2008, she promised labor unions she would oppose those lousy trade deals that steal our jobs, but emails at the time say the opposite.

In an email on Oct. 8, 2011, to Clinton from her aide Huma Abedin gave notes about the state of play in Congress on the proposed trade pacts. The notes provided Clinton “some background before you make the calls” to legislators.

Two days later in an email titled “FTA calls,” Clinton wrote to aides indicating she had spoken to Sens. Jack Reed of Rhode Island and Jim Webb of Virginia, both Democrats. She told the aides she had talked with “Webb who is strong in favor of all 3” trade agreements, and then asked, “So why did I call him?” — indicating she was otherwise phoning to try to convince wavering lawmakers to support the deals.

There: not a Republican mentioned....

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #37)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:46 AM

60. .

 

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:10 PM

6. I always enjoy reading your posts, but this time I fear you have missed a very big point.

I don't trust Hillary any more than you do. I could say more, but won't. The point I fear you're missing is by not voting for Hillary, you take a chance on trump winning. That is not a chance I'd take because the Supreme Court cannot fall into republican hands. Absolutely not!
She may be Democrat light, but I trust her to put a much better person on the court than any republican in the country would.
We as women have too much to lose with a right leaning court, not to mention the other hard won rights that will go down the tubes.

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Response to shraby (Reply #6)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:23 PM

10. Depends if your state counts

 

Mine is so red, my missing vote at the top will not matter. I will of course vote blue down ticket.

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Response to shraby (Reply #6)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:36 PM

13. I only trust her to place a Supreme Court nominee that will vote to uphold citizens united

Due to some recent trianguations, I don't even believe her (well because of recent remarks and her well known propensity for lying)

To even be concerned overly much about Roe v Wade. Since I live in a Blue State, my concerns and votes won't matter to anyone anyway, so don't sweat it.

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Response to shraby (Reply #6)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:12 AM

46. #10,004: Thank you for your kind words, and sharing your concerns.

 

I hear you; this is a terrifying election cycle, with so much riding on it. It seems like she keeps speaking in "code" to the right wing, and my instincts are not to trust her (maybe because being a female Democrat can give her cover to screw us over?). The New York Times video on Libya gave me chills: standing with Gaddafi's son, pontificating about "partners" and then cackling about "we came, we saw, he died" -- she met his son...



I understand the concerns. I know you do, too. No matter what, we will all continue to fight for what we believe in, and that is always a better world, isn't it? It's just that sometimes we have different ideas of how to get there.

But we will get there, eventually. Thank you for being part of the journey.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:11 PM

7. Congratulations

on your 12 years and your 10,000 posts.

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Response to pmorlan1 (Reply #7)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:14 AM

47. #10,005: Thank you!

 

I love your avatar (it totally fits you!) and your smilies made me smile!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #47)

Mon May 9, 2016, 05:50 PM

112. Back at you!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:15 PM

8. Congratulations, Ida! Love reading your posts! nt

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Response to 2cannan (Reply #8)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:17 AM

48. #10,006: Thank you! That means a lot!

 

Especially since every time I see a post from you, the similarity to my maiden name make me wonder if we're distant relations! So glad you decided to start posting more!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:21 PM

9. Awesome achievement

 

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #9)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:18 AM

49. #10,007: Thank you!

 

I am shocked at how many of them have been during this primary season - lol!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:30 PM

11. From another twelve year member that just recently reached 10,00 posts and have similar concerns

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #11)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:21 AM

50. 10,008: Thank you! I know I am not the only one...

 

and I know the admins are feeling some anxiety about this situation. Perhaps it is the nature of things, to always be changing?

So glad you have been a part of this adventure -- hard to believe it's been this long and we are still here, eh?

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:34 PM

12. You are much loved! Congrats for your many years here as

a valuable member of this community.

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Response to 7wo7rees (Reply #12)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:23 AM

51. #10,009: Thank you -- there are days when I wonder! Lol!

 

So "thank you" for being so kind!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:47 PM

14. Congrats.

I've read your posts for 12 years, but can't remember all 10,000.
I DO remember that you are a thoughtful, sincere individual with a strong moral compass who will speak with conviction from your heart, like you have done today.

I am too old and tired to AGAIN be forced to vote for the least of the worst.
The Poor are being ignored, the Middle/Working Class is collapsing, and I don't believe we can survive another 3rd Way "Democrat".

I inherited the Democratic Party of FDR and JFK from my parents. I am ashamed of the 3rd Way Party and country we are leaving to our kids. The bright spot is that "the kids" seem to have awakened, and are fighting for their heritage and rightful legacy.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #14)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:29 AM

53. #10,010: Thank you! One of the nicest things about the Democratic Party

 

has always been that it fights for people. That is not a small achievement, especially when it is "easier" to look the other way/ignore those we do not wish to see.

I think it is when we pretend that we cannot make a difference that we feel the most despair. The legacy of the Party that you helped inspire me to join by holding up the beacon that enabled Obama to become President is one of social justice, even when being sneered at, and told it is impossible.

Thank you for that. Forever and a day, thank you for that!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:57 PM

15. Thank you so much for beautiful post. Very rare nowadays to find a truly intelligent

and thoughtful post on DU and I know what you mean by "grieving". I still long for the sense of comradely we had during the early years sometime. Illusion falls away and truth and beauty remain. So wonderful to know you. Stay in touch in the spirit of Democracy!

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Response to kgnu_fan (Reply #15)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:33 AM

55. #10,011: Thank you so much!

 

In the early days, this was such a refuge - a sea of like minded individuals who couldn't believe the outside world had gone quite so crazy as it had. Times have changed, and now our community has grown; with that growth comes change, which is not always a bad thing. Who would have believed we could go from "Bush the Buffoon" to "Obama the Wise"? I think this site gave people the courage to fight for that to happen, and even the failure of 2004 only strengthened the resolve...

With hope, all things are possible. First the vision must be declared, before it can come true.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:05 PM

16. You need to thank me too, because you wouldn't have made it past a week

if I hadn't voted not to ban you. I was the lone no vote.
We can say this out loud now because there is no confidentiality clause any more.

Although, you can guess my thoughts now.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #16)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:47 PM

26. Oh jeeze!

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #16)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:39 AM

58. #10,012: Truth! Thank you so much for that!

 

I know you aren't happy with my current views, but I also know you respect my right to have different ones which is why you are forever and a day one of the reasons DU is such a great place. Thank you for helping me in the early days as I learned the rules and responsibilities that came with participating in this forum. Does it feel strange to know that lives have been changed because of your volunteering back then? Someday we will have to sit, drink tea, and I will show you pictures of children whose happiness can be traced back to this site -- and we will smile, because you are always going to be one of the important strands in that experience.

Thank you for being my friend for these long years.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:10 PM

18. Ditto on that

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Response to Sky Masterson (Reply #18)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:40 AM

59. #10,013: Thank you!

 

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:12 PM

19. Hillary will be the best Democratic president in decades.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #19)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:59 PM

30. way to throw Pesident Obama

 

under the bus

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #19)

Sun May 8, 2016, 09:00 PM

38. ...to the 1 percent.

To the rest of us... not so much.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #19)

Mon May 9, 2016, 12:02 PM

93. #10,036: We obviously disagree, but different opinions happen on

 

discussion boards. Have a good day.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:17 PM

20. Congratulations on 10,000

 

Share your frustration.

Hope this election turns out better than it seems to be moving towards. Started as a cionbtest of idea -- but is likely to end up a simple case of each party's message being "Your candidate is worse than ours."



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Response to Armstead (Reply #20)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:05 AM

62. #10,014: Thank you, especially because as one of the oldest members

 

of this forum, you helped set the standards for the community it has become, and I am so very grateful for that! You have been an amazing part of DU and I appreciate your kind words in this thread!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #62)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:12 AM

65. Thanks...

 

though i prefer to think of it as "longstanding" rather than oldest

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:23 PM

21. Congrats and rock on, IdaBriggs!

I always find your posts interesting and informative, and I identify with almost everything you wrote here. I even lost a parent in 2005 too. You're 4 years ahead of me on DU though.

A beautiful post.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #21)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:08 AM

63. #10,015: Thank you -- and I am sorry for your 2005 loss.

 



It has been strange to realize how long this has been a "daily stop" for me; through good times and bad, it has been an Internet "home". I am so glad you are a part of it!



ON EDIT: Forgot to number the post - doh! Lol!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:33 PM

22. Do another in similar form for 1008. . . that's the spiritual number

 

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #22)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:12 AM

64. #10,016: Well, that one became a "thank you note" for a fellow

 

DUer, so I am good with that type of energy for that number.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:40 PM

23. Congradulations on your 10,000 posts and strong Democratic values IdaBriggs.

It is not easy to see the Democratic party go so wrong.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #23)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:16 AM

66. #10,017: Thank you! We are an opinionated group of people,

 

and I keep reminding myself that it will work out in the end - it may be hell getting there, but it will work out, right? All we can do is our best -- and I believe most of us are doing that. It isn't easy, but your kind words of encouragement definitely help!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:43 PM

24. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for sharing, IdaBriggs and peace to you.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #24)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:20 AM

67. #10,018: Thank you! Peace unto you as well.

 

I love your avatar - I believe "President Gore" would have done an amazing job, and my utter respect for him for his efforts in bringing awareness of the dangers we all face over climate change is boundless. His story is simply inspirational -- thank you for reminding me of him today!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:44 PM

25. Congratulations, Ida!

I think we joined about the same time, and it has been one heck of a ride.

I hope things work out here. DU has been my home for so many years as well.

I always look for your posts and will continue to do so.

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Response to MelissaB (Reply #25)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:21 AM

68. #10,019: Thank you! There are people I "look for" in threads and --

 

you are one of mine, too!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:52 PM

27. Congratulations Ida.

10,000 posts is a very big deal. I don't often agree with your posts, but congrats nonetheless!

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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #27)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:26 AM

69. #10,020: Thank you! One of the joys of being on an actual "discussion board"

 

comes when we actually discuss different things. I confess that sometimes I learn things here (lol!) and my mind sometimes does get changed (emails!) when people share information or ideas that are new to me. The power of this type of communication - sharing ideas and opinions - is so valuable! Thank you for being a part of it!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:56 PM

28. Congratulations on...

10,000 and 12 years! Yes, this was a good place to come during he GWB years. I do disagree with you on the upcoming election - I hope President Clinton surprises you! Even if you're not feeling welcome, hope to see you remain a member and post when it's possible.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #28)

Sun May 8, 2016, 09:20 PM

41. This is a classy post

 

kudos

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #28)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:30 AM

70. #10,021: Thank you for your kind, classy words, Mike!

 

Hopefully the admins will find a respectful way to deal with the deep divisions our passionate community is facing.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 06:59 PM

29. Rock and Roll is here to stay!

I am also angry… I have voted for a Clinton at least six times to represent me in the federal government,
not happening again… for all of the reasons you state and more.

Cheers!

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Response to Agony (Reply #29)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:32 AM

71. #10,022: Thank you for your support!

 

This is a tough time to care about politics, but we are a stubborn people - we will get through this!



ON EDIT: Misnumbered post - doh!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 07:04 PM

31. To some of those we have lost.

Andy Stephenson, July 2005
http://www.democrats.com/node/5312


Dusty Kiegel (Senator), June 2011
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002750566


Karyn Altman (karyninmiami), Dec 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1146&pid=2622

I know how important DU was to each of them.

I hope it remains a source of inspiration and activism into the future.

On Edit: I like to imagine Andy, Karyn, and Dusty leading the effort to lobby the metaphysical forces of the universe for a miraculous Sanders victory.

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Response to pat_k (Reply #31)

Sun May 8, 2016, 09:18 PM

40. Klephra

 

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Response to pat_k (Reply #31)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:35 AM

56. Yes...

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Response to pat_k (Reply #31)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:36 AM

73. #10,023: And so many others, all missed!

 

The circle of lives touched never ceases to amaze me! And I am a believer in miracles....

Thank you for this post.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 07:06 PM

32. You express so well what many of us feel.

Thank you!

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #32)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:41 AM

74. #10,024: Thank you! You've also done more than one post

 

that I've read and said, "yes, that is exactly the right way to explain that unexplainable thing!" It makes DU feel like a classrom sometimes, which I especially like -- a place of learning, teaching and community.

Thank you for being a part of it!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #74)

Mon May 9, 2016, 05:00 PM

111. Thank you, that means a lot to me!

I hope we get to stay around here.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 08:02 PM

33. congrats!

it really does add up, doesn't it?

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Response to shanti (Reply #33)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:42 AM

75. #10,025: Thank you, and yes!

 

If I had spent half the energy cleaning my house, the basement would be clutter free! Lol!

But it wouldn't have been nearly as much fun!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 08:21 PM

34. In 2008 I know there was no "purge"..

... Unless the person continued to post attacking the Nominee or other Democrats (which, since that now includes Bernie Sanders, may also change TOS unless there are other independent "Democrat or betters" in gubernatorial or federal Senate or House races more likely to win than the Democratic candidate -- or it may stand as a reminder that the potential still exists for a younger version to hit the national stage in the future).

Even then, there's always been a more politically debating forum here (Politics 2016 possibly) while leaving General Discussion, the Lounge, and the many other forums open, such as state forums working for Senate and House wins.

The only people actively excluded, to my knowledge, were those that continued any efforts to sabotage the Democratic Nominee on Skinner's bandwidth. Those loathsome creatures who maligned a beautiful feline.

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Response to moriah (Reply #34)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:56 AM

78. #10,026: To be honest, with my twins being born in late February of 2007,

 

there is a big "sleep deprived blur" through much of my memory of the following year, and when I finally came up for air (as it were) I think much of the in-fighting was either over with or didn't feel as "important", particularly as I live in Michigan, and our primary votes were scheduled to be ignored due to having "moved the primary". At that time I was completely comfortable supporting either candidate, with a preference for Obama because of my strong dislike of "immediate family" running for President. You may have noticed we have some Hillary supporters who delight in taunting Bernie supporters with "ha! ha! you are going to get banned!" type posts, and even though the admins have categorical stated we are still in Primary mode, those type of bullying posts cause anxiety, especially when a "pile-on" occurs.

I hope you are right. Empty echo chambers are no fun, but neither are food fights. I miss the old rules, when being respectful was a valid community standard, but I haven't left yet, either.

This place is still my home, until the admins say differently. Thank you for always trying to reach out to people who disagree with you -- I've noticed.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #78)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:05 AM

82. I try to be a good example, and yes, I miss rules.

But it looks like they are coming back!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 08:41 PM

35. I can relate to this post so much

I've always appreciated your posts. I've also been here since 2004 and have made over 18k posts. This place has been a important refuge on the interwebs for me. I share your opinion of Clinton, and even share the shock at my changed opinion of her, but the more I've learned about her the more I'm certain she's the last thing we need right now. If she's the Democratic candidate, I think it will be an enormous disaster for the party. And frankly I'm not sure I won't feel that they'll get what they deserve - I say 'they' even though I've been a lifelong Democrat because I'm not sure I can abide with the DLC/Thirdway takeover of the party.

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Response to Matariki (Reply #35)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:02 AM

80. #10,027: Thank you, and the shock to my perception of Clinton

 

was STRONG. I once got into a verbal altercation with a relative during a holiday dinner defending them, and now I am wondering if my natural propensity to "defend the underdog" was taken advantage of by the constant "creation of victimhood" which in hindsight seems really stupid.

Thank you for your kind words and support -- the roller coaster ride of this election is still going on!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #80)

Mon May 9, 2016, 02:55 PM

100. You just gave me a 'frisson' of realization and put in the perfect description!

my natural propensity to "defend the underdog" was taken advantage of by the constant "creation of victimhood"

This is me. ^^^ And I so resent my potentially being put in that position AGAIN.

Perfect. And this is why you were guided/sent/drawn to DU. You are one of those voices that gives those little frissons, those shocks of realization, to others.

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Response to ebayfool (Reply #100)

Mon May 9, 2016, 03:48 PM

106. Wow! THANK YOU! What an unbelievable compliment!

 

And yes, I think that is why they are going for the "Biggest Victim" award -- have you noticed how EVERYBODY is against her?

I don't have the energy to keep fighting battles for someone who has a "poor me" on a weekly basis - I need someone in the White House who can fight for me. It's pretty much the job description, and she can't even get her email without starting a multimillion dollar scandal.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun May 8, 2016, 09:27 PM

42. The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe

 

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. Friedrich Nietzsche

If all of us who refuse to conform and pledge our support to Hillary are bounced out of here, it's gonna be a bit lonely for the party purists.

K&R

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #42)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:03 AM

61. Sometimes the individual just might just want to stay away from the tribe

Finding yourself on a planet with 5 billion+ rapacious locusts trailing you could become a daunting task. No need to flaunt at people who think they need no answer, they often get whats coming to them more sooner than later.

Absolutes and puritanical leaning is also kind of nonsense kind of idea, but letting it play out when the herd is at a gallop makes more sense.

And many congrats on 50,000+ posts in advance

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #42)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:05 AM

81. #10,028: I love that quote - it speaks to so much of the struggle to stand up

 

for what we believe in, while still conforming to our community norms. I agree with the emptiness of the echo chamber if our voices of dissent are silenced; this appears to be one of the growing pangs of defining how social media maintains its relevance.

Thank you for your support.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:26 AM

52. Ida, also been here about that time. Also cannot support HRC in the GE.

As you say corruption is corruption.

Her Wall St ties and constant evolving and flat out lies are reason enough, but her neo-conservative foreign policy is the boundary point for me. I cannot get past this. I won't be voting for her, and her supporters have told me that they won't need my vote as she will trounce Trump, which makes me feel a lot better as I don't have to sully myself voting for the worst Democratic candidate for President in my lifetime.

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Response to EndElectoral (Reply #52)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:08 AM

84. #10,029: Thank you; we are not alone.

 

The question of whether our voices will be loud enough to make a difference still remains. Thank you for being here and making DU such a wonderful place to be!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 09:31 AM

54. Clinton was left to Obama in 2008.

I'm unconvinced.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #54)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:13 AM

85. #10,030: People change, and what we want changes, too.

 

That doesn't make it a bad thing, but it can be uncomfortable. You've been here since 2002, and you have been a big part of this board, so you know what I mean. Although we have different opinions on the best candidate for this election cycle, you are still one of the stalwarts who helped build this place into the community it has become.

Thank you for that, and thank you for listening to me, even if you disagree.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:33 AM

72. Congrats on the 10,000th, Ida!

Enjoyed reading your post and memories. Having been here since 2001, I remember your all efforts on the ground and here on DU for the Dem Party, and I sympathize with where you are at this point in this current election season. After my years of local activism for Dem Party and participation here on DU I'm pretty much where you are in your assessment of Hillary and whether she and Bill deserve that Third Term, given the storm clouds that hang over them from their past dealings.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #72)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:25 AM

86. #10,031: Thank you, Koko! It is a very strange place to be, indeed!

 

You are one of the "old timers" on this board for whom I am especially grateful, and I recall many possible exchanges with you over the years.



As for the Clintons, it is distressing to realize my trust may have been misplaced so badly, and worse, that I was ignoring data that disagreed with my belief that "they care about people". I remember being so proud of Obama for appointing her Secretary of State -- it felt like she could take advantage of previous positive relationships developed during her tenure as First Lady, and work to better the planet, especially with issues regarding women. Now, knowing they were taking money from countries that perpetuated human rights abuses ($500k from the Libyan Foreign Minister two days after the Benghazi attacks - wtf?), I feel sick to my stomach about it.

I keep telling myself it will get better, but I also know that we have to make the change happen.

Strange times indeed!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:47 AM

76. Did you ever think when you started that this place would become about Clintons sex life....

 

Or that whole ops would be promoting Fox News? Amazing the changes that have happened here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511810912

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511824133

Most Fox News readers/viewers and those obsessed with the Clintons sex life won't be voting for her. It's really no a surprise.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #76)

Mon May 9, 2016, 12:35 PM

95. #10,037: Thank you for linking to those posts - I am very proud of them!

 

And the first has some great information for anyone who wants to learn more about the emails.

As for the Clinton's sex life, it has been a part of public discourse for decades, and one of my first "greatest page posts" was a snarky ode to the size and power of the Clenis compared to the small, wimpy one of Junior. (Advanced search to the old DU2 isn't working right now, otherwise I'd link.) I expect they will face more questions on the topic, especially as the blackmail potential for future indiscretions is notable.

And yes, it has been a shock when old myths - "vast right wing conspiracy" for example - were challenged and found wanting; FOX News doing actual reporting definitely surprising.

Big thing I want to say to you, personally, though is an apology for mistaking you for another poster (NRaleighLiberal) who I have long held in high esteem. I am rather embarrassed by that, and hope you can understand the confusion -- "liberal" versus "traveler" = doh! Some of your posts to me were especially distressing while I was under the mistaken impression you were my favorite "tomatoe guy" which probably confused you when I referenced our (apparently imaginary) previously long respectful relationship.

I am glad you enjoy participating in DU.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 10:54 AM

77. Glad you're here!

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Response to redwitch (Reply #77)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:26 AM

87. #10,032: Thank you! And you as well!

 

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:01 AM

79. congrats

been reading and lurking since 2003, also while campaigning for Kerry. I didn't join until 2007 (didn't always have internet).

I have not been a very active poster and don't see that changing if Clinton becomes our nominee. I may have to vote for her but will not have the heart to campaign and get out the vote (started registering new voter in 2002) like I have done in the past.

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Response to unapatriciated (Reply #79)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:30 AM

88. #10,033: Thank you, and I totally understand!

 

I am glad you are here. On a positive note, if we aren't volunteering for a candidate, there will be some free time available.

Maybe I can get back to some of my other hobbies, without the excuse of "no time!" There is always a silver lining, right?

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:06 AM

83. You're on my short list of must read posters.

Thank you for your thoughtful and kind contributions!

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Response to Juicy_Bellows (Reply #83)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:32 AM

90. #10,034: Thank you and what a wonderful thing to say!

 

I am so glad you are here!!!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 11:58 AM

92. I came to DU at the exact time you did! I was so hopeful that John Kerry would win and

I was aghast when Bush won. DU and Stephanie Miller saved me because I was in deep despair. But we go through it!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #92)

Mon May 9, 2016, 12:39 PM

96. #10,038: Thank you, and Yes!

 

I have also always loved your username (Mark Twain reference!), and am so glad you helped make this place so wonderful!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #96)

Mon May 9, 2016, 01:04 PM

97. Ida, you just made my day!

This is exactly what I meant in my appreciation that we had DU at a difficult time. I used to listen to Steph's show and laugh my head off. When I was down I would go on DU and shared the real despair I felt after the election. I was up and I was down a lot during that time.

Buona fortuna, Ida!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 01:17 PM

98. Congrats! #MILESTONE

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #98)

Mon May 9, 2016, 03:27 PM

103. Thank you! And I love your username!

 

The show was hysterical!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 01:29 PM

99. You became a Democrat only three and a half years ago,

And now that your candidate Bernie Sanders is losing - you say you will be become an Independent once again. Bernie Sanders has only been a Democrat for 10 months--mmmm. BYE.

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #99)

Mon May 9, 2016, 03:40 PM

104. The post was long, so you might have missed this bit --

 

when President Obama made me realize it was time to embrace the fact that:
1) supporting Democrats with my votes,
2) volunteering and donating to them, while
3) agreeing with the party platform at an extraordinary high level
4) consistently for decades
meant that I really was a Democrat.

The sticking point for me had been being associated with the Clintons and their never ending scandals which I personally found embarrassing.

You may not be aware of this, but Independents usually lean toward one side or the other. President Obama made me proud to publicly acknowledge what I was already doing - one of my favorite photos of my babies has them with me in the local Democratic offices stuffing envelopes for a fundraiser, while I had to miss a (Democratic fundraiser event) Helen Thomas speech the year before because of vomiting the meal in the parking lot during my challenging pregnancy.

As I said, I will not support Hillary. Fortunately, the primary is still going on, so yeah! And unlike Hillary's latest donors, never have been and NOT a Bush loving Republican.

Talk about stinking up the "big tent" --

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #104)

Mon May 9, 2016, 04:11 PM

107. Big tent? You won't even vote for the Democratic nominee...n/t

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #107)

Mon May 9, 2016, 04:26 PM

108. If it's Hillary, you are right. I have explained why in some detail.

 

To quote another DU person, I do not vote "for the laundry". If she's the leader of the party, I'm out. I like Bernie, Biden, Warren, O'Malley, Kerry, and probably a dozen other Democrats who do not come with her baggage and scandal.

She is a divisive figure in politics, and for the good of the party should not have entered the race.

I frankly have no idea why she is running, despite having watched her in multiple debates and town halls. She is not interested in serving the people; she wants more power, and I do not consent to give her my support.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #108)

Mon May 9, 2016, 04:40 PM

109. You are taking this way to personal...

Divisive?--because Repugs have had a 25 year on going smear machine against her and her husband.

Sanders is not remotely qualified but Ill vote for him.

She wants power? She already has it. Sanders want power as well or he would not be running.. Why is it different for him?

Baggage? Sanders is from Vermont--ain't nothing going on there. But he has baggage, but no one thinks he can win so there is no use of releasing that information.

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #109)

Mon May 9, 2016, 04:48 PM

110. We have different opinions, which is what happens with people

 

who are on a discussion board. I think Sanders wants to help people, and I support him in this. He has old fashioned FDR Democratic Socialist values. He has not used his position to enrich himself or his non-existent "charitable foundation". I trust his judgment to keep our country and its people safe. I think Hillary is going to make decisions that would result in unnecessary deaths and loss of Liberty, based on her MANY mistakes in the past, specifically her tenure as Secretary of State and Senator (IWR and cluster bombs).

Thank you for participating in this thread. I am glad you enjoy DU.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 03:14 PM

102. Congratulations, Ida

 

You are exemplary poster and DU member. I'm so glad you're a Bernie supporter. Whenever I click
on one of your posts I know I'm going to read something intelligent, well thought out and straight
from the heart. I hope you stick around for a another decade or two!

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Response to farleftlib (Reply #102)

Mon May 9, 2016, 03:42 PM

105. Thank you so much!

 

Your kind words are much appreciated!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 06:19 PM

113. Congratulations on your 10,000th post!! I joined at about the same time that you did (27 days later)

But I only have 4000 posts in the same amount of time.

I hope you will change your mind about voting for Hillary. But let's say you don't and she wins anyway. I think you will be very relieved when a lame duck congress confirms Merrick Garland, and relieved again when when Hillary replaces Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer with like-minded justices.

And I suspect that she will wind up doing a lot of things that you approve of. Especially if we can take back the congress.

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