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JPnoodleman

(454 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:36 AM May 2016

Hillary Clinton Promises A More Muscular Foreign Policy As President


WASHINGTON — In the lead-up to the 2008 presidential election, Hillary Clinton’s vote to authorize the Iraq War six years before haunted her on the campaign trail. It put her in stark contrast with then-Senator Barack Obama, who touted his foresight in opposing the ill-fated war. But if Clinton was scarred by the perception that her foreign policy agenda is too hawkish for the Democratic Party, she showed no signs of it Wednesday morning in a speech detailing her plan to counter Iran after the implementation of the nuclear deal.

While Clinton was instrumental in paving the road for the nuclear negotiations with Iran in 2012 and supports the accord reached between Iran, the U.S., and five world powers in July, she made clear on Wednesday at the Brookings Institution that she does not view the agreement as marking a shift in U.S.-Iranian relations.

“I don’t believe Iran is our partner in this agreement. Iran is the subject of the agreement,” Clinton said, using rhetoric that notably contrasts with that of the Obama administration, which has been consistenly cautious about not upsetting Iran.


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See, since we won't have college, or jobs, she will ensure there will be plenty of wars going on for us all to fight in. So I guess Hillary has a full employment plan after all..... We all get to kill us some Syrians! I wonder if she will raise the pay for your average soldier?

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Hillary Clinton Promises A More Muscular Foreign Policy As President (Original Post) JPnoodleman May 2016 OP
Flashback: Clinton engages in pay-for-play with reporter to describe foreign policy as "muscular" JonLeibowitz May 2016 #1
She's covered in sleaze... AzDar May 2016 #3
I had forgotten pugetres May 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #2
Love how the corporate media uses "muscular" as a code word for the evisceration of foreign bjo59 May 2016 #5
So, she's still twisting arms... Ino May 2016 #11
so she's NOT hugging Obama anymore? grasswire May 2016 #6
Yup, but we all get to see new exotic foriegn lands, like Iran and Syria.... JPnoodleman May 2016 #7
She decided Henry K is more huggable Art_from_Ark May 2016 #12
Like this? Dragonfli May 2016 #8
Hillbo! DJ13 May 2016 #9
I'm not too worried about Hillary evolving on this issue Fumesucker May 2016 #10
Who cares if we lose a few thousand more muscles? n/t Orsino May 2016 #13
Hillary pretends to have muscle... 99Forever May 2016 #14

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
1. Flashback: Clinton engages in pay-for-play with reporter to describe foreign policy as "muscular"
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:39 AM
May 2016
Former Atlantic contributing editor* Marc Ambinder is showing appropriate contrition for having participated in some dubious journalistic practices back in July 2009. As exposed by some Freedom Of Information Act documents secured by J.K. Trotter of Gawker, Ambinder was pursuing a copy of the speech that then- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was to make at the Council on Foreign Relations. So he emailed renowned Clinton advocate and spokesperson Philippe Reines.

The back-and-forth confirms anyone’s worst suspicions about access journalism. The transaction went like this:

• Ambinder asks for a copy of the speech;
• Reines says he’ll send it, with conditions;
• Ambinder writes back, “ok”;
• Reines lays out the conditions:

1) You in your own voice describe them as “muscular”
2) You note that a look at the CFR seating plan shows that all the envoys — from Holbrooke to Mitchell to Ross — will be arrayed in front of her, which in your own clever way you can say certainly not a coincidence and meant to convey something
3) You don’t say you were blackmailed!

• Ambinder writes, “got it.”

The story, it turns out, rated Clinton’s speech “muscular” and indeed made reference to the seating thing: “The staging gives a clue to its purpose: seated in front of Clinton, subordinate to Clinton, in the first row, will be three potentially rival power centers: envoys Richard Holbrooke and George Mitchell, and National Security Council senior director Dennis Ross,” wrote Ambinder, completing his compliance with Reines’s conditions.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/02/09/corrupt-journalism-doesnt-pay-nor-does-abetting-it/

Ethics? Who needs that? Certainly not the President of these United States...

Response to JPnoodleman (Original post)

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
5. Love how the corporate media uses "muscular" as a code word for the evisceration of foreign
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:50 AM
May 2016

countries that leaves death, mutilation, and total misery spread across the land. Ho, ho, ho... "muscular" like a football player! Go team!

Ino

(3,366 posts)
11. So, she's still twisting arms...
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:00 AM
May 2016

to get journalists to describe her as "muscular"? We've heard that word before...

From: Philippe Reines
Sent: Wednesday, July 15 2009 10:06 AM
To: Ambinder, Marc
Subject: Re: Do you have a copy of HRC’s speech to share?

3 (conditions) actually

1) You in your own voice describe them as “muscular”

2) You note that a look at the CFR seating plan shows that all the envoys — from Holbrooke to Mitchell to Ross — will be arrayed in front of her, which in your own clever way you can say certainly not a coincidence and meant to convey something

3) You don’t say you were blackmailed!


One minute later, Ambinder responded:

From: Ambinder, Marc
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:07 AM
To: Philippe Reines
Subject: RE: Do you have a copy of HRC’s speech to share?

got it

JPnoodleman

(454 posts)
7. Yup, but we all get to see new exotic foriegn lands, like Iran and Syria....
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:59 AM
May 2016

I mean I cannot wait to celebrate these new cultures by fire bombing a fuck ton of it.

HORRAY! GLORIOUS HILLARY GIVES FREE EXTENDED KINDA PAID VACATIONS! AND GUNS!

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
14. Hillary pretends to have muscle...
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:28 AM
May 2016

... young Americans and brown skinned "furriners" die to make big profit$$$ for Hillary's cronies.

Clinton, the war profiteer candidate.

Tell me again why I would EVER support such a immoral person.

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