2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumVoters DESPISE both Clinton & Trump...yet Sanders is *unelectable*
Clintons average strongly unfavorable rating in probability sample polls from late March to late April, 37 percent, is about 5 percentage points higher than the previous high between 19803 and 2012. Trump, though, is on another planet. Trumps average strongly unfavorable rating, 53 percent, is 20 percentage points higher than every candidates rating besides Clintons.
No major party nominee before Clinton or Trump had a double-digit net negative strong favorability rating. Clintons would be the lowest ever, except for Trump.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/?ex_cid=538twitter
But according to *Very Serious People*...
Bernie Sanders is unelectable!?!
This game is RIGGED!
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I can't figure it out either.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)and is responsible for the ongoing
middle east crisis.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...Princess Weathervane's record of warmongering alone should prevent anyone even remotely progressive from voting for her.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Any candidate running on both sides. Womp womp.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Our party chose to ignore it, and work together with the media in the Bernie Blackout. Earned media counts have proven this correct.
Sanders owes them NOTHING!
It's rigged indeed. The game has changed. Sanders knows this.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)that candidate can't be taken seriously
as a *democrat*
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)By virtue of the fact that he couldn't even win his own Party's nomination (and I use that term loosely), makes him unelectable. That's just common sense.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)This primary has been a debacle from the jump.
It would be pathetic to pretend
that the DNC, the Media, and
assorted cronies have been even handed.
FFS, when the Koch oligarchs tepidly endorsed
Clinton it is OBVIOUS to anyone with
two working brain cells whats going on.
Washington (CNN)Oil tycoon and conservative mega-donor Charles Koch had kind words for both Bill and Hillary Clinton in an interview Sunday, saying there was an outside chance he could support her in November.
"We would have to believe her actions would be quite different than her rhetoric. Let me put it that way," he said on ABC's "This Week" Sunday. "But on some of the Republican candidates we would -- before we could support them, we'd have to believe their actions will be quite different than the rhetoric we've heard so far."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/politics/charles-koch-hillary-clinton-2016/
Tarc
(10,476 posts)and reject Sanders'.
It's a shame that your day isn't complete until 10 conspiracies are uncovered before breakfast.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Destroying Syria?
or
maintaining wealth inequality?
or
rejection of single payer healthcare?
or
What? Her fight to keep wage slavery?
What is her vision people prefer?
She has NOTHING but a bunch of disjointed
policy statements that essentially maintain
the current status quo.
Her campaign is one big middle finger to 99%
of the public.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Yea nearly 60% of the vote has gone her way thus far, so I'd say that not many share your perception of events at hand.
Btw, any particular reason you post in some sort of neo-haiku format? Reading these things is...interesting.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts):rolleyes:@PeopleWhoShyAwayFromReality
apcalc
(4,463 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Interesting how low information voters
always seem to vote against themselves!
Millions of them!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Buns_of_Fire
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Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)What an excellent icon!
DookDook
(166 posts)You are free; to do as we tell you.
Bill Hicks had it right.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Voted for Sanders? Doesn't work that way.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)This board has gone batshit crazy since it has become evident that sanders will not be the nominee.
I think I've read less anti-Hillary nonsense on a RW site.
Pathetic and funny at the same time.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts). . .either Owned (Clinton) or OwnERS (Clinton and Trump)
The whole 'We never met a big corpat who would kill your Mother and Theirs for profit whom we didn't LOVE" problem is...well....a Problem.
And as we all know, only an expert can deal with the problem:
polly7
(20,582 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Where Hillary voted after donations was made.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Big money, Wall Street, the Military Industrial Complex, on and on, yada yada, the oligarchs win either way.
We should have non profit health care. We should have a progressive tax system. We should slash the Hell out of our Defense budget.
Back to taxes....loopholes should go as well....no massive corporation should be able to file out of some tropical Island with one employee there to answer one phone just in case.
Would Hillary make any kind of effort to do any of this? No.....but since she would be running against a dangerous crackpot she would be the best choice.....and that is the frustrating thing for millions of us.
How long, how long, till real change takes place to level the playing field as much as possible? Hint...no real chance till we get public financing of elections to do away with this corrupt system of legalized bribery.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Cost over runs and Sanders wants to continue funding Lockheed Martin. Just think how far that trillion dollars could gone on paying down college tuitions.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)collides with reality, don't waste your brain on trying to combine the two.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And Sanders couldn't win the primary. That isn't some cheap shot or anything like that. When your campaign manager states soon after Iowa that he didn't know the rules in Iowa, there might be a problem other than "This game is RIGGED!"
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,166 posts)7 out of 8 if you consider Gore won the popular vote in 2000.
That pretty much nullifies the unfavorability factor as decisive to me. (Hopefully it doesn't support Trump, as he's far more unfavorable than both Clinton and Sanders.)