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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:17 AM May 2016

Sanders: I will upset Clinton and defeat Trump in November

Fresh off his victory in Indiana, Bernie Sanders expressed confidence that he can pull off "one of the great political upsets" in American history to defeat Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton and presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump.

At a Tuesday night press conference, the Vermont senator touted the momentum of his campaign while acknowledging that it's an uphill battle for him to clinch the nomination.

"We feel great about tonight, not only in winning here in Indiana ... but also gaining the momentum we need to take us to the finish line," Sanders said. "I sense some great deal of momentum. I sense some great victories coming."

"I sense some great victories coming, and I think while the path is narrow — and I do not deny that for a moment — I think we can pull off one of the great political upsets in the history of the United States and in fact become the nominee for the Democratic Party," he continued. "And once we secure that position, I have absolute confidence that we are gonna defeat Donald Trump in the general election."

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Sanders said he believes he's the best candidate to take on Trump in November. The real estate mogul is now the presumptive GOP nominee after his landslide victory in Indiana prompted Ted Cruz to suspend his campaign.

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http://www.thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278627-sanders-i-will-upset-clinton-and-defeat-trump-in-november

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Sanders: I will upset Clinton and defeat Trump in November (Original Post) Purveyor May 2016 OP
Yes, I believe he will. Betty Karlson May 2016 #1
His victory in Indiana left him further behind than he was before today. Garrett78 May 2016 #2
Oh Bernie, your senescence is showing... anotherproletariat May 2016 #3
Not math The Second Stone May 2016 #12
Hillary was upset by Bernie a long time ago! cui bono May 2016 #4
... UMTerp01 May 2016 #5
I love his drive and his determination dana_b May 2016 #6
That's my "Seabiscuit"! Peace Patriot May 2016 #7
Yup pmorlan1 May 2016 #29
Hey, that was wonderful Thanks pdsimdars May 2016 #34
You're Welcome pmorlan1 May 2016 #39
I've no doubt that he will... meanwhile, let's upset her as well by asking for those Transcripts. AzDar May 2016 #8
Poor Bernie if he really believes any of this. Onlooker May 2016 #9
"Feel The Bern" vs. "Trudge Up The Hill" says it all. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #10
Good Lord, how? Zynx May 2016 #11
It means his path to victory got steeper. Garrett78 May 2016 #13
He doesn't believe it... Corporate666 May 2016 #14
Money Stuckinthebush May 2016 #22
Bernie weakens himself everytime he makes these silly statements. Alfresco May 2016 #15
Feel The Burn. randome May 2016 #16
"But I'm gonna need cash. . ." nt Codeine May 2016 #17
I think the stress of the long campaign is getting to him Nonhlanhla May 2016 #18
Here's how he could believe it rock May 2016 #28
Elections are about change pinebox May 2016 #19
Go Bernie! jack_krass May 2016 #20
BS and Kasich will still be campaigning come December. grossproffit May 2016 #21
He is delusional Demsrule86 May 2016 #23
Bernie's pretty good at predictions. Like the time in Iraq. Octafish May 2016 #24
No, no he isn't, not even remotely close metroins May 2016 #27
Bernie started out at a relative disadvantage. Octafish May 2016 #32
Man, metroins, that sure sounds like despiration. . . . pdsimdars May 2016 #35
No metroins May 2016 #36
"fraudulent campaign of untruths" The projection...it's OVER 9000!!! Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #40
I'm glad you like dbz as well. metroins May 2016 #42
Fun stuff, innit? Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #43
You got it backwards. . . and I am not going to explain it to you now if you don't see it already. pdsimdars May 2016 #44
Bernie. Its. Over. JaneyVee May 2016 #25
We are Berniecrats and We are behind you all the way, Bernie / FlatBaroque May 2016 #26
....! KoKo May 2016 #37
Good luck with that St Bernard you old socialist loser! beaglelover May 2016 #30
I coud write something equally shitty about Hillary but, I won't. Hiraeth May 2016 #38
Stay classy farleftlib May 2016 #45
He's a good orator and uses rhetorical devices to great effectiveness in political speeches. nt LanternWaste May 2016 #31
Ca-Ching Ching! carburyme May 2016 #33
Bye, low-post-count Felicia! Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #41
Sure, Sanders, don't reality and facts get in your way.......... Beacool May 2016 #46
Oh yes! Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #47

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
2. His victory in Indiana left him further behind than he was before today.
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:24 AM
May 2016

The reality is that Sanders now needs an even greater percentage of the remaining delegates than he needed prior to the Indiana primary.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
12. Not math
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:28 AM
May 2016

"democratic socialist math". That means you use a method of counting in every jurisdiction that puts the best spin on your actual outcome. Kind of like how advertising is done.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
6. I love his drive and his determination
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:36 AM
May 2016

He's been up against the Democratic establishment, the MSM, people not knowing WHO he is, precarious voting results in many states, very rich/powerful super pacs on the other side, and of course probably the most well known woman in politics and he is STILL winning some states! Bravo!

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
7. That's my "Seabiscuit"!
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:46 AM
May 2016

I called it, early on. Bernie Sanders is Seabiscuit--that squat, knock-kneed, empathetic horse with the heart of a great warrior who became the greatest and most loved race horse of all time, with utterly improbable victories that almost no one believed to be possible, who galvanized the American people in the darkest days of the Great Depression.

I just happened to be reading about Seabiscuit when I first became aware of Sanders' presidential campaign back in July-August 2015. As Sanders rode to one improbable victory after another--with, of course, big setbacks and dark moments all along the way (as with Seabiscuit) and with the entire establishment ridiculing him and trying their very best to ignore him (just as with Seabiscuit), I felt the heart of a great warrior arising among us. I wrote about it here. It's in my journal.

Americans do love an underdog--the come-from-behind winner, the one who fools "the experts," the one with all the handicaps and all the odds against him, the ragamuffin with the undiscovered genius, the one with a GREAT HEART who NEVER gives up.

That is Seabiscuit.

That is Bernie Sanders.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
29. Yup
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:58 AM
May 2016

Last edited Wed May 4, 2016, 10:13 AM - Edit history (1)

Seabiscuit beats WAR Admiral.

Seabiscuit was the underdog, the Cinderella Man of racing. “He was the horse from the other side of the tracks who became a champion,” Hillenbrand said.

War Admiral was the regal ruler of racing, the son of the great Man O’War (though Seabiscuit was related as well) who had won racing’s Triple Crown in 1937, an aristocratic horse that seemed unbeatable.

“A little horse with the heart of a lion and the flying feet of a gazelle yesterday proved his place as the gamest thoroughbred that ever raced over an American track.
 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
8. I've no doubt that he will... meanwhile, let's upset her as well by asking for those Transcripts.
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:58 AM
May 2016




Go, Bernie... GO!
 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
9. Poor Bernie if he really believes any of this.
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:06 AM
May 2016

He can't beat Hillary. He can't beat Donald. If he didn't run for office in a white liberal state like Vermont, he probably wouldn't even be in politics.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
10. "Feel The Bern" vs. "Trudge Up The Hill" says it all.
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:15 AM
May 2016

(Obama was so right about that being a better slogan for her.)

I'll definitely go with "Feel The Bern". I think Bernie's right that most voters would too.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
11. Good Lord, how?
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:21 AM
May 2016

A pathetically low turnout election in Indiana that netted him five delegates doesn't mean much.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
13. It means his path to victory got steeper.
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:44 AM
May 2016

He needs a greater percentage of the remaining delegates than he needed prior to the Indiana primary.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
14. He doesn't believe it...
Wed May 4, 2016, 04:03 AM
May 2016

but he has a legion of naive doe-eyed sycophants that will keep throwing money at him believing his bullshit.

And he is only too happy to continue selling them an impossible dream to keep filling his coffers with cash.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Feel The Burn.
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:20 AM
May 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
[/center][/font][hr]

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
18. I think the stress of the long campaign is getting to him
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:35 AM
May 2016

Because how he could possibly believe this, I don't know. And I would like to think he's not deliberately lying.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
19. Elections are about change
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:36 AM
May 2016

and Hillary is borrowing a page from the Obama 2012 play book.
Sorry, Hillary changes nothing. Bernie does. Hillary is more of the same and Bernie is fresh. In a GE, Bernie does better than Hillary and that is all to it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. Bernie's pretty good at predictions. Like the time in Iraq.
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:44 AM
May 2016

Another good example is Offshoring and the Panama Papers for Tax Dodgers.

So, it's a very likely he's correct on his chances in November, too.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
27. No, no he isn't, not even remotely close
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:53 AM
May 2016

His chances in November are Zero.

He has already lost the nomination since early March.

He won't get to November because he won't get past July.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
36. No
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:03 AM
May 2016

It's an incredulous feeling of amazement that people believe this fraudulent campaign of untruths.

I personally did not care if Bernie stays in, but I'm extremely upset at him and his supporters spewing falsehoods about a path to the nomination and his calculated raising of money from people by selling false hope.

It's disgusting to me.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
44. You got it backwards. . . and I am not going to explain it to you now if you don't see it already.
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:33 PM
May 2016

But maybe you can answer this question.




Which of these issues are the ones you support so strongly? Which ones are the ones you give money to her campaign for?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. He's a good orator and uses rhetorical devices to great effectiveness in political speeches. nt
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:02 AM
May 2016

He's a good orator and uses rhetorical devices to great effectiveness in political speeches.

carburyme

(146 posts)
33. Ca-Ching Ching!
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:45 AM
May 2016

Money drying up huh Bernie?

As long as his supporters are buying into his lies and deceit he'll keep on keeping on.

This is so sad..

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