Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:18 PM

JaneyVee (19,877 posts)

FULL AUTOPSY statement on Bernie Data Breach

Didnt he only fire 1 out of 4 staffers? And...

Can. You. Imagine. The. Freakout. If. This. Were. Hillary?

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FULL AUTOPSY statement on Bernie Data Breach (Original post)	JaneyVee	Apr 2016	OP
Suit dropped by Sanders.	MineralMan	Apr 2016	#1
Suit dropped because continuing would be a	Hortensis	Apr 2016	#140
Suit dropped because Devine & Weaver convinced Sanders	stopbush	May 2016	#155
Thanks for posting.	cwydro	Apr 2016	#2
Interesting, Hillary nor O'Malley campaign accessed others information.	Thinkingabout	Apr 2016	#3
11 states. Eleven!	JaneyVee	Apr 2016	#5
I can't help but wonder which 11 states Bernie stole data regarding.	synergie	Apr 2016	#67
25 separate illegal searches by 4 people,	Hortensis	Apr 2016	#141
But hillary is supposedly the one running a corrupt campaign. nt	puffy socks	Apr 2016	#8
Ya know. Exactly. Nt	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#9
The lawsuit was weak and Sanders was going to be poured out	Gothmog	May 2016	#148
Frivolous, his staff was caught and they were locked out, cheap punishment.	Thinkingabout	May 2016	#152
So, conclusion. They stole data. Then Sanders sues wasting more DNC resources. Nt	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#4
They changed the headlines AND got to raise money off it too!	Lucinda	Apr 2016	#12
True that and paint the DNC as dark and corrupt, and smear DWS relentlessly because they stole data.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#18
Yup. It was crystal clear to me....so odd that people bought into it.	Lucinda	Apr 2016	#23
It always comes back to that damn homework, doesn't it. Nt	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#32
Four users, one hour, twenty five searches, eleven states, and downloaded information.	NCTraveler	Apr 2016	#6
"Clinton and O'Malley clean." And Sanders sues. That pisses me off. As he campaigns on integrity. Nt	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#7
And who knows if it was put on a thumb drive or where it is.	JaneyVee	Apr 2016	#10
I believe Clinton would have a solid suit here.	NCTraveler	Apr 2016	#11
A thumb drive . . . oh, you mean a flash drive.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#48
Four people were fired. Where'd you get your information?	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#49
Every article says one staffer, not plural. So, Sanders sues.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#51
Read these links which are neutral. Both say four. Three were recommended by DNC.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#80
I believe Clintons campaign has grounds for a suit if they can quantify possible damages.	NCTraveler	Apr 2016	#53
Russell Drapkin, Hawley Brett, and Ali Nikseresht were not fired.	joshcryer	Apr 2016	#106
They were definitely looking for something to use.	joshcryer	Apr 2016	#104
Not downloaded...	leftinportland	Apr 2016	#127
You are incorrect. NH information was exported. Nt	NCTraveler	Apr 2016	#143
Or it wasn't coordinated.	Igel	Apr 2016	#132
+1	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#138
Eleven? E-fucking-leven?!	NurseJackie	Apr 2016	#13
I wonder how many of those e-fucking-leven states went to Bernie...	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#28
There is A LOT of stuff like this	fun n serious	Apr 2016	#14
"he then played victim" Yes. And, still does play the victim. Even ahead of time before anything	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#19
They keep playing...	sheshe2	Apr 2016	#22
Yes they do.	fun n serious	Apr 2016	#26
I beg to differ. We are endlessly told that it is UNfair Democrats do not respond to Sanders. Nt	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#35
That's one way to look at it.	fun n serious	Apr 2016	#38
I commented yesterday at the meanness of HRC people and pointed out the graphics/comics	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#44
It's a cartoon	fun n serious	Apr 2016	#78
+1. Nt	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#34
You	sheshe2	Apr 2016	#40
I know....	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#47
Yep	Gothmog	May 2016	#149
GOHILLARY!!!!	asuhornets	Apr 2016	#15
As soon as I saw DNC Statement at the top I stopped reading. Ms. Payday Lender doesn't have a	Skwmom	Apr 2016	#16
Sanders steals, sues, tarnishes DWS and DNC and this is your comment? Man of integrity.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#20
You're expecting him to blame Daddy. That's too much and frankly out of line.	SaschaHM	Apr 2016	#46
How about, DWS working on behalve of payday lenders, HRC working on behalf of fracking,banking,pharm	insta8er	Apr 2016	#57
WTF Does that have to do with Sanders stealing, Suing, and deflecting it on DWS and DNC?	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#60
He is not deflecting anything, have you seen who wrote that piece? maybe you should try to look at	insta8er	Apr 2016	#62
Sanders stole data, sued DNC, painted them as evil, blamed everyone else. Integrity my ass.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#66
Yes you are right, he did it himself..went in there, hacked the system..etc. There are couple	insta8er	Apr 2016	#69
Sanders people stole. Sander sued using our resource when he is responsible for his people	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#71
yeah Yeah..stealing...Lying...good night LOL	insta8er	Apr 2016	#77
The campaign of integrity. Stealing? Meh...	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#81
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Again, what does that have to do with Sanders stealing, Suing?	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#87
Read this very slowly. y o u s a i d c a m p a i g n o f i n t e g r e t y....I s h o w y o u 1 3 m	insta8er	Apr 2016	#91
Got to love your faux outrage, sure you don't watch Faux News?	insta8er	Apr 2016	#86
Here is the insults from you, now. You guys are predictable.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#89
I'ts an observation and a question...it was going to be an insult if I said that you actually watche	insta8er	Apr 2016	#94
I bet you did not read the Bernie report on this incident right? just the HRC..eh DNC one.	insta8er	Apr 2016	#95
Nope, it's deflection	obamanut2012	Apr 2016	#124
Oh and where do you get your regular "news" from? it might help in answering some of the questions	insta8er	Apr 2016	#65
Nothing -- it's deflection like always	obamanut2012	Apr 2016	#123
Sanders has a copy of the full report. He is free to publish it if anything is incorrect	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#113
Do you want to place a bet on this happening?	Gothmog	May 2016	#150
Will the Bernie 2016 offer the DNC and the other two campaigns an apology? Will the media announce	Jitter65	Apr 2016	#17
What? No Alert? Surely this is "hurtful" "insensitive" "off topic"	Jitter65	Apr 2016	#21
Thanks so much for posting, JanyVee.	sheshe2	Apr 2016	#24
Sounds like some of Bernie's staff did wrong, were busted, and someone paid the price.	aikoaiko	Apr 2016	#25
So Sanders sues, paints DNC and DWS as evil, unfair, and waste our donations because of a suit.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#36
Sounds like they worked it out based on the DNC press release.	aikoaiko	Apr 2016	#97
I think that your reaction would be very different if Hillary's team did this.	yardwork	Apr 2016	#121
You're probably right. One candidate has a different reputation than the other.	aikoaiko	Apr 2016	#130
Thanks for your nice reply.	yardwork	Apr 2016	#139
This thread has turned into a comic book. Spin, spin, spin. I'm having some fun for a change.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#76
Sounds like NGP-VAN, shutting them down, and locking them out...	joshcryer	Apr 2016	#107
Probably true.	aikoaiko	Apr 2016	#131
Wow! k&r	DesertRat	Apr 2016	#27
JaneyVee posting FACTS! Not innuendo. Not speculation.	yallerdawg	Apr 2016	#29
Course we will. Except I got my facts from LATimes/Politicus. DNC is the defendant-hardly neutral.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#59
Four perpetrators. One scapegoat.	beastie boy	Apr 2016	#30
1=4...more Bernie math!	Sancho	Apr 2016	#31
Now this is a post worth bookmarking. Thanks, JaneyVee	Thinkingabout	Apr 2016	#33
If it were Hillary? In 2008, there was a similar incident	Blue Meany	Apr 2016	#37
Thanks for knowing that. Of course, HRC's will ignore your information.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#42
No, I searched. And searched and searched some more. I found ONLY Sanders accusing Clinton of this	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#54
I couldnt find anything either. But on Reddit a post was removed that referenced this.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#96
2008 by Sanders own words was “unintentional transmission of confidential information”, Not theft.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#45
link to Sanders accusing Clinton please. I'm interested in reading. You mean Obama?	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#55
It is in Sanders law suit. It was his way to deflect from his own theft. So he could sue and waste	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#58
Explanation from NGP VAN	Blue Meany	Apr 2016	#93
And somehow Sanders' supporters read that as Sanders' campaign did nothing wrong.	Hoyt	Apr 2016	#39
Nobody said that. It was wrong and people were fired. Why do you spin it?	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#41
I am pretty sure I saw an Op or two saying they were exonerated.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#50
He fired four. If they were exonerated, great. I sourced LA Times and Politicus.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#52
They weren't exonerated as this OP shows. The OPs left that part out. I see only one fired.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#56
This OP not neutral-DNC was defendant; Try politicus. Try LA Times. You want spin? Try DNC.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#63
Lots of people falsely said that the investigation vindicated Sanders,	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#114
Hard to put away bad feelings when so much smearing from HRC continues and lies.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#43
Post removed	Post removed	Apr 2016	#61
Post removed	Post removed	Apr 2016	#70
Seriously?	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#73
Just responding to your claim.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#74
You excused/justified/rationalized theft.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#75
Big words for little guy/girl. Do you know what they mean?	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#83
So bring out the nasty card of insults..... Hey stealing? Meh. Insult? Thumbs up.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#85
I've answered every post honestly. Maybe you should read what you write.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#90
Obviously referring to the 4 Sanders staffers who stole the data.	Fla Dem	Apr 2016	#134
Oh, give it up already.	bvf	Apr 2016	#64
shameful. I have lost all respect for the guy. Drop out Bernie!	boston bean	Apr 2016	#68
I wonder why I don't think that's a great loss...	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#72
Every day the creep factor grows...	Squinch	Apr 2016	#79
"creep factor" - no smear or slime there.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#82
He stole. Then he sued to try to distract from the fact that he stole. That's creepy.	Squinch	Apr 2016	#88
K&R	brer cat	Apr 2016	#92
"We're running a clean campaign".	George II	Apr 2016	#98
Is THIS why this forum is even more panic-filled and idiotic than usual today??!	Number23	Apr 2016	#99
Garbage OP	AgingAmerican	Apr 2016	#100
What do you mean? It's an official statement.	Renew Deal	Apr 2016	#120
The Sanders camp committed the breach, and tried to very it up by throwing a fit	Renew Deal	Apr 2016	#101
The OP contains no source	AgingAmerican	Apr 2016	#118
"a user exported a statistical summary of a search using HFA scoring in New Hampshire."	SunSeeker	Apr 2016	#102
And we still don't have the actual details of the investigation.	joshcryer	Apr 2016	#103
4 accounts. 3 of them were the same guy who was fired.	jfern	Apr 2016	#105
He had Drapkin, Brett, and Nikseresht's login details?	joshcryer	Apr 2016	#108
I heard he created the other 2 accounts	jfern	Apr 2016	#115
I didn't hear that.	joshcryer	Apr 2016	#116
The logs for the time period show the 2 accounts created	jfern	Apr 2016	#117
BS fired 4 staffers-Sanders camp suspends two more staffers over data breach & apologized to Hillary	Cha	Apr 2016	#109
Kick	Hekate	Apr 2016	#110
Full autopsy with no link. mmkay...	cui bono	Apr 2016	#111
Thanks for posting this!	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#112
Interestingly, none of the Sanders supporters seem to be reccing it! Go figure!	Squinch	Apr 2016	#119
"Can. You. Imagine. The. Freakout. If. This. Were. Hillary?"	sufrommich	Apr 2016	#122
They're like: "Except for the data we stole, NO DATA WAS STOLEN!" And ...	NurseJackie	Apr 2016	#137
If the suit was really a smokescreen, more heads need to roll. nt	oasis	Apr 2016	#125
Sanders lawsuit had no merit and had to be dismissed	Gothmog	Apr 2016	#126
K&R	NEDem	Apr 2016	#128
DU rec...	SidDithers	Apr 2016	#129
I remember thinking	NastyRiffraff	Apr 2016	#133
The paragraph that is 3rd from the bottom is DAMNING.	MADem	Apr 2016	#135
Mmmm. Mmmmm. Mmm.	Hekate	Apr 2016	#136
Thank you for posting this! K & R nt	Persondem	Apr 2016	#142
Where is the actual report?	TheRickles	Apr 2016	#144
"going through stuff that I wasn't supposed to have access to."	NCTraveler	Apr 2016	#145
They can't handle the truth.	NurseJackie	May 2016	#146
K&R	Gothmog	May 2016	#147
More obfuscation of Debbie-gate- the early and sustained collusion between the DLC and	silvershadow	May 2016	#151
K&R	Jamaal510	May 2016	#153
kick.	JaneyVee	May 2016	#154

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:26 PM

MineralMan (145,003 posts)

1. Suit dropped by Sanders.

End of story.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:24 PM

Hortensis (55,682 posts)

140. Suit dropped because continuing would be a

bad, bad, bad mistake. End of story.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #140)

Tue May 3, 2016, 10:01 AM

stopbush (24,131 posts)

155. Suit dropped because Devine & Weaver convinced Sanders

that spending $ on lawyers would cut into their own compensation.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:29 PM

cwydro (49,065 posts)

2. Thanks for posting.

I've not seen any news on it, of course.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:31 PM

Thinkingabout (30,058 posts)

3. Interesting, Hillary nor O'Malley campaign accessed others information.

It has determined there was information exported. For the Sanders team to withdraw their law suit is a good move on the Sanders team since it would have released more information about the breach and would not result in a decision in favor of Sanders team. Guess who did not file a suit, the two who had their information breached.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:38 PM

JaneyVee (19,877 posts)

5. 11 states. Eleven!

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:19 PM

synergie (1,901 posts)

67. I can't help but wonder which 11 states Bernie stole data regarding.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:27 PM

Hortensis (55,682 posts)

141. 25 separate illegal searches by 4 people,

and Sanders, instead of apologizing honestly, files suit against the DNC. From The Donald we would expect that.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:45 PM

puffy socks (1,473 posts)

8. But hillary is supposedly the one running a corrupt campaign. nt

Last edited Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to puffy socks (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:46 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

9. Ya know. Exactly. Nt

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #3)

Sun May 1, 2016, 04:21 PM

Gothmog (126,648 posts)

148. The lawsuit was weak and Sanders was going to be poured out

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #148)

Sun May 1, 2016, 04:57 PM

Thinkingabout (30,058 posts)

152. Frivolous, his staff was caught and they were locked out, cheap punishment.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:38 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

4. So, conclusion. They stole data. Then Sanders sues wasting more DNC resources. Nt

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:53 PM

Lucinda (30,874 posts)

12. They changed the headlines AND got to raise money off it too!

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Response to Lucinda (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:07 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

18. True that and paint the DNC as dark and corrupt, and smear DWS relentlessly because they stole data.

Totally fucking amazing, right? Not like all of us didn't know the truth of it. As they tell us we need to feel shame for voting for our Democratic candidate that has spent a lifetime doing the best she can, for others.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:14 PM

Lucinda (30,874 posts)

23. Yup. It was crystal clear to me....so odd that people bought into it.

But then again, I've done my homework.

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:40 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

32. It always comes back to that damn homework, doesn't it. Nt

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:43 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

6. Four users, one hour, twenty five searches, eleven states, and downloaded information.

And one person got fired. It's was coordinated.

Clinton and O'Malley clean.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:44 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

7. "Clinton and O'Malley clean." And Sanders sues. That pisses me off. As he campaigns on integrity. Nt

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:47 PM

JaneyVee (19,877 posts)

10. And who knows if it was put on a thumb drive or where it is.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:53 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

11. I believe Clinton would have a solid suit here.

I don't recommend it but I believe they do against the Sanders campaign and the tech company. I think the DNC would be difficult because it looks like they at least acted quickly and appropriately.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:04 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

48. A thumb drive . . . oh, you mean a flash drive.

Well, I hope you find it someday. It seems real important to you. BTW, any proof that it has been used by anybody or that it was important to anybody or that it changed the future of the nation?

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:05 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

49. Four people were fired. Where'd you get your information?

BTW, Clinton couldn't sue. It would have to be the DNC . . . why don't you know these things? If you're going to give advice, at least make it somewhat correct.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #49)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:08 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

51. Every article says one staffer, not plural. So, Sanders sues.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #51)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:32 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

80. Read these links which are neutral. Both say four. Three were recommended by DNC.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-04292016-bernie-sanders-drops-lawsuit-against-dnc-1461967648-htmlstory.html
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/29/bernie-sanders-withdraws-lawsuit-dnc-proven-correct-data-breach.html

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #49)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:09 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

53. I believe Clintons campaign has grounds for a suit if they can quantify possible damages.

Glad to hear the got rid of all for of the users. My apologies for improperly stating the numbers.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #49)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:28 AM

joshcryer (62,168 posts)

106. Russell Drapkin, Hawley Brett, and Ali Nikseresht were not fired.

There was talk of suspensions, but they needed Nikseresht to run the NGP-VAN software process since he was intimately familiar with the software and is considered one of its architects. Drapkin was the lead coordinator, so he wasn't fired either. Brett is the only name that could fall under the suspension they talked about. No names were mentioned under the "suspension" language.

But certainly they picked Josh Uretsky as the fall guy.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:21 AM

joshcryer (62,168 posts)

104. They were definitely looking for something to use.

It's a good thing NGP-VAN stopped their illicit searches and locked them out, this could've been way bigger than it was.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:41 AM

leftinportland (247 posts)

127. Not downloaded...

Saved within the VotBuilder system...big difference

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Response to leftinportland (Reply #127)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:33 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

143. You are incorrect. NH information was exported. Nt

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:04 PM

Igel (33,516 posts)

132. Or it wasn't coordinated.

"Eleven states," but one computer system and one interface. I can imagine the following.

One worker--let's call the worker Taylor--tries something and finds that it's possible to access proprietary information. Wrong, but in the spirit of "my privacy is sacred, you don't get privacy" thinking that many seem to like, Taylor decided to run some searches. The thrill of forbidden fruit. Or perhaps it was personal, and he liked putting one over on the enemy. That's always righteous.

Then Taylor can't help pointing out the new-found information to three colleagues--perhaps in the same room, perhaps a text. "Hey, guys, look what I did!" The thrill of narcissism. So then four Bernisians were running the searches.

At some point somebody said, "Hey, what if we're caught?" Or perhaps they had some task to finish and realized lunch was over. Or perhaps their supervisor came in the room and said, "Aren't you supposed to be doing ________?" The fear of getting in trouble.

Suddenly one person gets fired--our "Taylor"--and you get precisely the data on which many base the claim of coordinated and intentional action by the campaign, but without the coordination and intent.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:09 PM

uponit7771 (88,616 posts)

138. +1

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:55 PM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

13. Eleven? E-fucking-leven?!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:29 PM

beastie boy (5,866 posts)

28. I wonder how many of those e-fucking-leven states went to Bernie...

Wouldn't be surprised if the number is e-fucking-leven.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:57 PM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

14. There is A LOT of stuff like this

that happened and he then played victim

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Response to fun n serious (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:08 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

19. "he then played victim" Yes. And, still does play the victim. Even ahead of time before anything

has happened.

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Response to fun n serious (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:13 PM

sheshe2 (78,210 posts)

22. They keep playing...

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:23 PM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

26. Yes they do.

They bused in boat loads of people to different states, had " how to commit voter fraud" presentations at Caucasus and then CRY unfair closed primaries... He simply loses closed primaries because he does not appeal to DEMOCRATS.. thats it. Nothing unfair

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Response to fun n serious (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:42 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

35. I beg to differ. We are endlessly told that it is UNfair Democrats do not respond to Sanders. Nt

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #35)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:46 PM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

38. That's one way to look at it.

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Response to fun n serious (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:01 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

44. I commented yesterday at the meanness of HRC people and pointed out the graphics/comics

just like yours. How many of those do you see on the Bernie side? Ours our uplifting and supportive of Bernie. Yours constitute an in-your-face mockery of Bernie. Several of you do it. When you can show me a similar device against Hillary on this blog, I might finally believe that we are as mean spirited as you.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #44)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:31 PM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

78. It's a cartoon

I think calling Hillary a corrupt liar and thief without evidence thread after thread is way more offensive than this cartoon. Y'all are too sensitive.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:40 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

34. +1. Nt

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #34)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:50 PM

sheshe2 (78,210 posts)

40. You

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:04 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

47. I know....

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #22)

Sun May 1, 2016, 04:22 PM

Gothmog (126,648 posts)

149. Yep

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:59 PM

asuhornets (2,405 posts)

15. GOHILLARY!!!!

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:59 PM

Skwmom (12,685 posts)

16. As soon as I saw DNC Statement at the top I stopped reading. Ms. Payday Lender doesn't have a

reputation for being a truth teller.

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Response to Skwmom (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:09 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

20. Sanders steals, sues, tarnishes DWS and DNC and this is your comment? Man of integrity.

My ass.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:04 PM

SaschaHM (2,897 posts)

46. You're expecting him to blame Daddy. That's too much and frankly out of line.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:12 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

57. How about, DWS working on behalve of payday lenders, HRC working on behalf of fracking,banking,pharm

a etc. And you are enraged about an old socialist guy? talk about having your priorities mixed up.

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Response to insta8er (Reply #57)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:13 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

60. WTF Does that have to do with Sanders stealing, Suing, and deflecting it on DWS and DNC?

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #60)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:17 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

62. He is not deflecting anything, have you seen who wrote that piece? maybe you should try to look at

that first. Its written by the same DNC that is holding their finger on the scale for HRC, the same DNC that is run by DWS who is holding her finger on the scale for HRC. Very objective now isn't it?

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Response to insta8er (Reply #62)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:19 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

66. Sanders stole data, sued DNC, painted them as evil, blamed everyone else. Integrity my ass.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #66)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:23 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

69. Yes you are right, he did it himself..went in there, hacked the system..etc. There are couple

of "senior" people here that you can borrow a tinfoil hat from, in case you didn't have one. Just believe the DNC since they have had such a stellar reputation when it comes to fairness..especially with DWS heading it. Whatever you need to tell yourself to make you go to bed. Sleep tight!!!!

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Response to insta8er (Reply #69)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:26 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

71. Sanders people stole. Sander sued using our resource when he is responsible for his people

stealing.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #71)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:30 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

77. yeah Yeah..stealing...Lying...good night LOL

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Response to insta8er (Reply #77)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:32 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

81. The campaign of integrity. Stealing? Meh...

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:36 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

87. Again, what does that have to do with Sanders stealing, Suing?

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #87)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:38 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

91. Read this very slowly. y o u s a i d c a m p a i g n o f i n t e g r e t y....I s h o w y o u 1 3 m

i n o f i n t e g r e t y o n v i d e o. F u n n y h o w t h a t w o r k s r i g h t?

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #81)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:36 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

86. Got to love your faux outrage, sure you don't watch Faux News?

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Response to insta8er (Reply #86)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:37 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

89. Here is the insults from you, now. You guys are predictable.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #89)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:39 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

94. I'ts an observation and a question...it was going to be an insult if I said that you actually watche

d it.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #89)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:40 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

95. I bet you did not read the Bernie report on this incident right? just the HRC..eh DNC one.

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Response to insta8er (Reply #62)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:37 AM

obamanut2012 (23,832 posts)

124. Nope, it's deflection

Sea is right.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #60)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:18 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

65. Oh and where do you get your regular "news" from? it might help in answering some of the questions

that are raised by looking at the level of knowledge about the subject matter on the side of the Hillary cheersquad.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #60)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:36 AM

obamanut2012 (23,832 posts)

123. Nothing -- it's deflection like always

You are right, Sea.

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Response to Skwmom (Reply #16)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 03:48 AM

pnwmom (107,640 posts)

113. Sanders has a copy of the full report. He is free to publish it if anything is incorrect

in the DNC's statement.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #113)

Sun May 1, 2016, 04:22 PM

Gothmog (126,648 posts)

150. Do you want to place a bet on this happening?

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:00 PM

Jitter65 (3,089 posts)

17. Will the Bernie 2016 offer the DNC and the other two campaigns an apology? Will the media announce

the findings 24/7 as they have the unsubstantiated and mostly disproved charges of voter fraud everywhere Hillary won? Don't hold you breath!

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:12 PM

Jitter65 (3,089 posts)

21. What? No Alert? Surely this is "hurtful" "insensitive" "off topic"

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:14 PM

sheshe2 (78,210 posts)

24. Thanks so much for posting, JanyVee.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:23 PM

aikoaiko (33,305 posts)

25. Sounds like some of Bernie's staff did wrong, were busted, and someone paid the price.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:43 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

36. So Sanders sues, paints DNC and DWS as evil, unfair, and waste our donations because of a suit.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #36)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:46 PM

aikoaiko (33,305 posts)

97. Sounds like they worked it out based on the DNC press release.

I know the Bernie haters are loving this but the suit stopped all the public squabbling, they agreed on a way to deal with it, and its over for the most part.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #97)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:25 AM

yardwork (56,006 posts)

121. I think that your reaction would be very different if Hillary's team did this.

Sanders ran on "integrity and honesty" and he and his campaign routinely point at Hillary as being dishonest and corrupt. There are posts from right-wing sources deflecting in this very thread.

It's disingenuous to pretend that this is nothing.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #121)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:40 AM

aikoaiko (33,305 posts)

130. You're probably right. One candidate has a different reputation than the other.

Last edited Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:19 PM - Edit history (1)

And bad behavior of people you like always seems less bad than bad behavior of people you don't like.

I don't think this is nothing, but I don't hear the HRC campaign and DNC trying to make it any bigger than as reported. I can live with that.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #130)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:16 PM

yardwork (56,006 posts)

139. Thanks for your nice reply.

This issue has been laid to rest, I think.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:29 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

76. This thread has turned into a comic book. Spin, spin, spin. I'm having some fun for a change.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #25)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:30 AM

joshcryer (62,168 posts)

107. Sounds like NGP-VAN, shutting them down, and locking them out...

...prevented a much bigger scandal from occurring.

This is a detailed overview of what they did: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251927056#post19

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #107)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:41 AM

aikoaiko (33,305 posts)

131. Probably true.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:24 PM

DesertRat (27,995 posts)

27. Wow! k&r

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:31 PM

yallerdawg (16,104 posts)

29. JaneyVee posting FACTS! Not innuendo. Not speculation.

And, of course, we know opinion trumps fact every time!

Won't mean a damn thing to them there...

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #29)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:13 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

59. Course we will. Except I got my facts from LATimes/Politicus. DNC is the defendant-hardly neutral.

I'm sure there are facts in the spin. Too bad you won't know which is what.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:35 PM

beastie boy (5,866 posts)

30. Four perpetrators. One scapegoat.

Integrity my ass.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:37 PM

Sancho (8,857 posts)

31. 1=4...more Bernie math!

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:40 PM

Thinkingabout (30,058 posts)

33. Now this is a post worth bookmarking. Thanks, JaneyVee

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:44 PM

Blue Meany (1,947 posts)

37. If it were Hillary? In 2008, there was a similar incident

with Hillary staff accessing Obama data. But in that case, there was no sanction taken against Hillary's campaign, whereas in this instance, they immediately cut off their access to the database, which was in violation of their contract This was one of the reasons the campaign was complaining about unfair treatment -- that and the fact that it was the DNC's contractural reponsibility to keep the data secure, and the there had been warnings from IT professionals in the past about relying exclusively on one company.

According NP VAN, the searches were not--and could not have been--saved in such a way that allowed the campaign to access the searches once the breach was fixed. The only thing that was capable of being exported for future use was the statistical summary mentioned above. This does lend some credence to the fired staff persons statement that he was doing search to document the extent of the breach rather than to use it for the advantage of the campaign.

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Response to Blue Meany (Reply #37)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:56 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

42. Thanks for knowing that. Of course, HRC's will ignore your information.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #42)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:09 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

54. No, I searched. And searched and searched some more. I found ONLY Sanders accusing Clinton of this

He stated unintentional unlike his outright theft. Snopes said they have no verification that happened with Clinton. SO, like you say four staffers where fired, and Clinton staff stole in 2008, link it.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #54)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:41 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

96. I couldnt find anything either. But on Reddit a post was removed that referenced this.

So I think it is dubious. I wouldn't spread it.

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Response to Blue Meany (Reply #37)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:03 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

45. 2008 by Sanders own words was “unintentional transmission of confidential information”, Not theft.

Snopes said it is unverified. No proof.

I googled different ways and found NOTHING, but Sanders accusing Clinton of it in 2008. Where is the information?

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #45)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:11 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

55. link to Sanders accusing Clinton please. I'm interested in reading. You mean Obama?

I did read that she'd done the same to Obama and DNC ignored it.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #55)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:12 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

58. It is in Sanders law suit. It was his way to deflect from his own theft. So he could sue and waste

DNC money and paint them as evil because he was caught stealing. There is no verification, but Sanders, that Clinton did the same in 2008.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #45)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:39 PM

Blue Meany (1,947 posts)

93. Explanation from NGP VAN

First, a one page-style report containing summary data on a list was saved out of VoteBuilder by one Sanders user. This is what some people have referred to as the “export” from VoteBuilder. As noted below, users were unable to export lists of people.

Second, there has been independent confirmation that NGP VAN has not received previous notice of a data breach regarding NGP VAN. Josh Uretsky, the former National Data Director for the Sanders campaign confirmed on MSNBC (at 5:47), and also on CNN, regarding the previous incident: “it wasn’t actually within the VAN VoteBuilder system, it was another system.”

https://blog.ngpvan.com/news/data-security-and-privacy

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:47 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

39. And somehow Sanders' supporters read that as Sanders' campaign did nothing wrong.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #39)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:54 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

41. Nobody said that. It was wrong and people were fired. Why do you spin it?

DNC was the defendant. They are not neutral observers. But I can accept their view. But your comment is a lie.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #41)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:06 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

50. I am pretty sure I saw an Op or two saying they were exonerated.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #50)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:09 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

52. He fired four. If they were exonerated, great. I sourced LA Times and Politicus.

I don't want people not culpable to be penalized.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #52)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:11 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

56. They weren't exonerated as this OP shows. The OPs left that part out. I see only one fired.

I saw no article with google that all four were fired.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #56)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:17 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

63. This OP not neutral-DNC was defendant; Try politicus. Try LA Times. You want spin? Try DNC.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/29/bernie-sanders-withdraws-lawsuit-dnc-proven-correct-data-breach.html
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-04292016-bernie-sanders-drops-lawsuit-against-dnc-1461967648-htmlstory.html

BTW, I didn't say they were exonerated. I said they were fired. I don't know beyond that.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #41)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 03:53 AM

pnwmom (107,640 posts)

114. Lots of people falsely said that the investigation vindicated Sanders,

for example, here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511866782

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:59 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

43. Hard to put away bad feelings when so much smearing from HRC continues and lies.

What is wrong with you people?

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:27 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

73. Seriously?

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #73)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:28 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

74. Just responding to your claim.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #74)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:29 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

75. You excused/justified/rationalized theft.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #75)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:34 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

83. Big words for little guy/girl. Do you know what they mean?

I don't think you do since they are irrelevant to my post. You told me that I was going to steal from you. "Sanders people steal." Didn't you?

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #83)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:35 PM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

85. So bring out the nasty card of insults..... Hey stealing? Meh. Insult? Thumbs up.

Campaign of integrity never ends.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #85)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:37 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

90. I've answered every post honestly. Maybe you should read what you write.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #83)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:20 PM

Fla Dem (20,907 posts)

134. Obviously referring to the 4 Sanders staffers who stole the data.

Reading comprehension is fundamental.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:18 PM

bvf (6,604 posts)

64. Oh, give it up already.

Amnesty isn't forever.

Sheesh.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:20 PM

boston bean (35,339 posts)

68. shameful. I have lost all respect for the guy. Drop out Bernie!

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Response to boston bean (Reply #68)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:27 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

72. I wonder why I don't think that's a great loss...

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:31 PM

Squinch (47,333 posts)

79. Every day the creep factor grows...

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Response to Squinch (Reply #79)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:33 PM

snowy owl (2,145 posts)

82. "creep factor" - no smear or slime there.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #82)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:37 PM

Squinch (47,333 posts)

88. He stole. Then he sued to try to distract from the fact that he stole. That's creepy.

That's not a smear. That's a fact.

The guy is a thief, and nothing like the pure grandpa his followers want him to be.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:38 PM

brer cat (20,866 posts)

92. K&R

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:47 PM

George II (67,782 posts)

98. "We're running a clean campaign".

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:58 AM

Number23 (24,544 posts)

99. Is THIS why this forum is even more panic-filled and idiotic than usual today??!

I could smell the flop sweat coming out of GDP even before fully typing "democraticunderground" in my browser bar.

The screams that Bernie's campaign didn't really, REALLY spend more money than Hillary's when every bit of evidence says he did and the folks still K&R'ing the "bbbut she's a CORPORATIST111!!" posts as if by doing so, it will overturn the fact that she is whipping Sanders' butt up and down the electorate are filling this forum and are even more laughably stupid than usual.

This OP may help explain some of that. Though it's clear that some folks are still seriously grappling with their grief too. Glad that Sanders finally dropped his absurd lawsuit against the DNC but the damage to his campaign has already been done.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:06 AM

AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)

100. Garbage OP

No link. The usual garbage from the usual suspects.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #100)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 07:40 AM

Renew Deal (80,790 posts)

120. What do you mean? It's an official statement.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:10 AM

Renew Deal (80,790 posts)

101. The Sanders camp committed the breach, and tried to very it up by throwing a fit

But there was never really any doubt what happened. Glad it's finally proven.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #101)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:26 AM

AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)

118. The OP contains no source

The OP is crap

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:12 AM

SunSeeker (49,133 posts)

102. "a user exported a statistical summary of a search using HFA scoring in New Hampshire."

In other words, Sanders STOLE Hillary data.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:19 AM

joshcryer (62,168 posts)

103. And we still don't have the actual details of the investigation.

Because suppressing them in exchange for dropping a useless lawsuit is better for unity than releasing the details, the actual investigation, and demanding Weaver show his hand, which is an 2/7 off suit.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:23 AM

jfern (5,204 posts)

105. 4 accounts. 3 of them were the same guy who was fired.

And he was recommended by the DNC to be hired.

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Response to jfern (Reply #105)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:39 AM

joshcryer (62,168 posts)

108. He had Drapkin, Brett, and Nikseresht's login details?

I find that utterly hard to believe. Particularly the details that Nikseresht needed to do the privilege escalation that he did before the NGP-VAN system noticed and locked them out.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #108)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 03:55 AM

jfern (5,204 posts)

115. I heard he created the other 2 accounts

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Response to jfern (Reply #115)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:06 AM

joshcryer (62,168 posts)

116. I didn't hear that.

And I searched for it and it's hard to believe, given that that would mean he committed a cyber crime and he's not in jail.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #116)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:25 AM

jfern (5,204 posts)

117. The logs for the time period show the 2 accounts created

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:52 AM

Cha (283,906 posts)

109. BS fired 4 staffers-Sanders camp suspends two more staffers over data breach & apologized to Hillary

Sanders personally apologized to Clinton for his staffers' actions on the debate stage in New Hampshire on Saturday.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/bernie-sanders-suspends-two-staffers-217007

Mahalo, Janey~

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 03:27 AM

Hekate (82,840 posts)

110. Kick

Kick-ass report. --->.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 03:40 AM

cui bono (19,926 posts)

111. Full autopsy with no link. mmkay...

And it's a statement from the DNC, the head of which started the smearing of Sanders over this by unprofessionally going to the press rather than take the appropriate steps, and who also doled out unusually harsh and probably illegal denial of access to his own voter database. The same DNC who tried to limit debates because their/her favorite candidate didn't want them. Oh sure... anything coming out from them is a "full autopsy" and not at all biased.

In fact, we don't even know if that's actually from the DNC since you didn't bother to provide a citation/link.

What a joke.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 03:45 AM

pnwmom (107,640 posts)

112. Thanks for posting this!

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #112)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 07:37 AM

Squinch (47,333 posts)

119. Interestingly, none of the Sanders supporters seem to be reccing it! Go figure!

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:26 AM

sufrommich (22,871 posts)

122. "Can. You. Imagine. The. Freakout. If. This. Were. Hillary?"

Isn't it ironic ?

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #122)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:07 PM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

137. They're like: "Except for the data we stole, NO DATA WAS STOLEN!" And ...

They're also like: "Not including the people who had access, NOBODY HAD ACCESS!"

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:46 AM

oasis (48,811 posts)

125. If the suit was really a smokescreen, more heads need to roll. nt

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:20 AM

Gothmog (126,648 posts)

126. Sanders lawsuit had no merit and had to be dismissed

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:02 AM

NEDem (1,513 posts)

128. K&R

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:12 AM

SidDithers (44,228 posts)

129. DU rec...

But remember. Josh Uretsky was a Clinton campaign / DNC / Illuminati agent, planted into the Sanders campaign to discredit them.

Sid

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:13 PM

NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)

133. I remember thinking

when it was reported that the Sanders campaign was suing the DNC after their own data breech, what the fuck? Read it again: the Sanders campaign was suing the DNC after their own data breech

UFB! First, let's call it by its right name: theft. They stole data from the Clinton database. Then they sue the DNC because poor, poor them...they got temporarily cut out of the system. Four users, 25 searches, 11 states, all within an hour. There is no way to sanitize that, yet the Sanders campaign sued.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:32 PM

MADem (135,425 posts)

135. The paragraph that is 3rd from the bottom is DAMNING.

Cheating. Plain and simple.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:51 PM

Hekate (82,840 posts)

136. Mmmm. Mmmmm. Mmm.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:31 PM

Persondem (1,923 posts)

142. Thank you for posting this! K & R nt

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:54 PM

TheRickles (1,407 posts)

144. Where is the actual report?

This statement represents the DNC's official interpretation of the independent investigation done by CrowdStrike. Not surprisingly, their interpretation differs by 180 degrees from the Sanders' team's conclusion that the report vindicates Sanders (see an earlier DU post here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511866782)

Can anyone provide a link to the actual CrowdStrike report, so we can decide for ourselves?

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