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GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:11 AM Apr 2016

Who gets to decide how we vote in the Primaries? If we wanted to change to ranked voting, eg,

is it done with the Platform or some other way?

I think ranked voting, even when down to two candidates would be very helpful. You could rank the candidate of your heart in first place, the candidate of your head in the second place, and assign no vote or a 0 to one who gets a vote of no confidence. This would give the party a whole lot more detailed picture of who we want to support.

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Who gets to decide how we vote in the Primaries? If we wanted to change to ranked voting, eg, (Original Post) GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 OP
It's done with the State Party or State Government... brooklynite Apr 2016 #1
But the party decided the convention rules, supers numbers, etc. morningfog Apr 2016 #5
But not voting mechanics at Primaries and Caucuses. brooklynite Apr 2016 #6
For primaries, the state governments decide. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #2
It would be nice if we could get everyone to switch over! GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #3
State parties and state government sometimes are involved Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #4
the state parties in most cases set the state rules.....actual primary dates are beachbum bob Apr 2016 #7
OK, but what do you think of using ranked voting in the way I had suggested? GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #8
State by state. That's how it works. MineralMan Apr 2016 #9
Glad your state is giving it a go. Maine thought about it, but the town clerks fought against GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #10
I've voted twice using ranked choice voting. MineralMan Apr 2016 #11
If they dislike IRV, they would really hate Condorcet. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #14
How are the Green Party primaries going? OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #12
No idea. I changed my affiliation so I could caucus for Bernie. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #13
Okay. Prior to changing your affiliation... OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #15
Sorry to say, I never made it to a Caucus. I do know they favor IRV in general. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #16
No! No! That would be too democratic for the Democratic Party. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #17
It must be, or Dem Administrations would have pushed for it by now GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #18
Cui bono? Who benefits from the two-party system? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #19
Indeed! GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #20

brooklynite

(94,270 posts)
1. It's done with the State Party or State Government...
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:14 AM
Apr 2016

...all the DNC does is allocate delegates, and give a basic frame for the Primary calendar.

Demsrule86

(68,447 posts)
4. State parties and state government sometimes are involved
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:20 AM
Apr 2016

There is no Democratic one primary fits all... I am for closed primaries because I have seen the GOP trash Dem primaries before. Also, Democrats pick a Democratic candidate and that is as it should be. I live in Ohio which is an open primary state.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
7. the state parties in most cases set the state rules.....actual primary dates are
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:13 AM
Apr 2016

negotiated between DNC and the state parties. Thats why we see changes of the dates for states between election cycles. Primaries should and are in most cases, closed...so outside forces can't interfere with choices...the way it should be.....if a voter wishes to participate in the process...first rule is to UNDERSTAND the process....and not whine about after the fact....

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
9. State by state. That's how it works.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:58 AM
Apr 2016

Elections are state-run things, even party primaries.

It would have to be changed in each individual state. Here in Minnesota, we're experimenting with ranked-choice voting. So far, only for local elections. Some voters like it. Others do not like it. Will it be expanded to all elections? Probably not within the next four years. It's still in the testing phase.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
10. Glad your state is giving it a go. Maine thought about it, but the town clerks fought against
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:38 AM
Apr 2016

the extra work, and understandably so. Still, if we'd had it in place, we might not have had LePage for two terms.

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
11. I've voted twice using ranked choice voting.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:45 AM
Apr 2016

Both times it was for city officials in St. Paul. It worked OK, but the ballot is a little confusing, as many voters said. It also increases the size of the ballot considerably, and would do that even more in a large ballot with many candidates.

The worst part, from the general point of view, is that it's hard to understand as the votes are counted. Watching the TV news folks trying to explain it demonstrated why that is.

I like the idea, since it prevents costly run-off elections, but I can see how it will be unpopular with many people. Personally, I don't care. I'll vote intelligently on any ballot put in front of me. I understand ranked choice voting, so it doesn't bother me at all. Given the number of objections to it here in St. Paul, though, not everyone agrees with me.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
19. Cui bono? Who benefits from the two-party system?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:19 PM
Apr 2016

Poor people? Uneducated people? Sick people? Old people?

Or...

Capitalists?

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