Why is this, MSM and FBI?

[grasswire]

Why is it that the FBI has to tip toe about the possibility of recommending action against a presidential candidate because no one wants politics to enter the election in this manner, but...........

the ABSENCE of action if the evidence warrants it ALSO is political.

The people have a RIGHT TO KNOW if a candidate is at risk of prosecution for criminality, corruption in office, money laundering etc. Before there is a nomination. Before there is an election.

I believe it's time to start pressuring the MSM to get this show on the road. Not doing so gives aid and comfort to Republicans.

[BreakfastClub]

1. Hillary did nothing criminal and there is no tiptoe going on. nt

[TM99]

2. And you are certain of this because?

[k8conant]

9. Dream on...

[CoffeeCat]

57. Dreaming? This is a Democrat's worst night nightmare.

I am gob smacked that HRC hired an IT guy to build an unsecured server on which she conducted all of her State business--that included classified and Top Secret information sent via email. 2000 classified emails; 22 Top Secret.

No one thinks this is funny. It's serious and it's God awful. This could throw this election and our party into a tailspin.

Spinning this situation away, by attacking any one who DARES to bring up this very serious topic, is childish.

We're not engaging in "dreaming" as you said. But you're engaging in pure fantasy if you don't think this year-long FBI investigation of HRC's server isn't as serious as a heart attack.

[pdsimdars]

31. You should go do some research before you make declarations like that. She broke several laws

You don't know anything about it if you think she didn't. It will come out but you should do research and stop hiding your head in the sand.

[Gwhittey]

49. So are you one of the FBI agents working on case?

If not you are just as bad as someone saying she is going to jail for sure. Because you don't have a clue except your "gut' feeling cause you think a Clinton could never do anything illegal.

[Maedhros]

56. That's what Republicans say about Bush and Cheney.

Just wishing something is true doesn't make it so.

[Firebrand Gary]

3. There's nothing there that is why.

[Dragonfli]

12. I did not know you were a lead member of the FBI team investigating this. shush, leaks bad /nt

[Blue_In_AK]

28. If there's nothing there,

they need to say so.

Personally, I think it's fairly foolish to be running a candidate with this kind of cloud hanging over her, but if this is what the PTBs want, then Hillary's name needs to be completely cleared NOW. Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if they decide to indict in August or if the matter is still hanging when November rolls around?

[pdsimdars]

32. You don't know what you are saying. Go do some research.

You're talking out or your

[Ferd Berfel]

36. “Anonymous” is threating a Clinton "Info" Dump

Anonymous Hacker Video To Hillary: “We Are About To Expose Everything!”

http://www.occupyliberals.com/2016/04/24/anonymous-hacker-video-hillary-expose-everything/#comments

“Anonymous” is a loosely associated international network of activists and hackers. Their members are known as “Anons” and are sometimes seen in public wearing the Guy Fawkes masks as seen in the movie “V for Vendetta”.

The anarchist group has hacked the sites of several government agencies around the world, the Church of Scientology, child pornography sites, and several large corporations.

Now, they have apparently have a new target: Hillary Clinton.

This week, the esoteric group posted a video calling out many of Hillary Clinton’s lies. The video proclaims that she is no different than all the other politicians we have had in the past, and she will only bring negative change to the nation.

Speaking directly to Clinton, the mysterious figure in the video states, “It appears that lying has become second nature to you,”and “You are backed by the same dark suits that have supported every other past president.”


Video at link

[FourScore]

46. Anonymous has become pretty irrelevant, I'm sorry to say.

They make a lot of threats but never follow through. They were going to "mess up the election" if it looked like election fraud was happening. Unless they are working for Hillary purging voters, they haven't done a damn thing.

[Ferd Berfel]

52. yeah, and it ashame too.

M$M cannot be counted on any longer to sift through the BS and tell the truth. I was kinda hoping these folks would take up the banner.

[Gwhittey]

51. Holy cow how many FBI agents are on DU

Because so many people seem to either think there is nothing. Only people who know are people in FBI task force on this and a few people in charge of FBI. I don't even think Obama has the information at this point. He might but I think he would not want it to not appear he is trying to sway them.

[highprincipleswork]

4. I also want this concluded and settled, once and for all. Either do it, or abandon it, and let it

be over with.

Letting it drag on into the actual GE is a horror story.

[HooptieWagon]

8. Comey said the timetable is not determined by the election.

The investigation is done when they've dotted the i's and crossed the t's. They're doing a thorough job, and it's done when it's done.

[highprincipleswork]

10. All reasonable people should factor this in when evaluating who we select as the nominee. That's

just being realistic. And all the more reason to have Bernie stay in the race.

[HooptieWagon]

15. I agree it is preferable to have it done.

But the timetable happened because of 2 years of Clinton stalling, refusing to turn over emails, not disclosing the private server, and deleting emails. It could have been finished 2 years ago had she cooperated. Plus she'd have less criminal liability had she cooperated.
Yes, it would have been better to have the matter settled before people started voting in primaries...or at least before the convention. Doesn't look like that will happen. We're probably going to nominate damaged goods. Could be a bloodbath all down ticket if the hammer falls on her during the GE.

[highprincipleswork]

17. if that happens, it truly will be a sad day. I would love for it to be done at least before the

convention.

If not, and it causes damage during the GE, that will be a tragedy. There will be a whole lot of people with culpability for that one.

I, for sure, will not be one of them.

[jwirr]

47. IF this leaves one party without a candidate in the GE or

even worse we elect her what happens to the election or her term in the WH. The consequences are really dire here.

[FourScore]

48. They need to come out with a statement then, letting the electorate know that

Hillary is either the focus of the investigation or not.

[DJ13]

5. Theres nothing there, its not criminal, others did it in the past

(None of which I agree with...)

But, by their silence, as you said, they ARE making a political decision.

The closer to the convention they allow this to fester, the more the eventual decision ends up being pure politics.

[TM99]

7. No, others did not do it in the past.

No other SoS or Cabinet member has ever run their own private off-site email server that served as a communication hub for classified and non-classified material. Period.

[DJ13]

11. I know, I was just reciting ......

.....a few of the standard fall back positions the Hillary supporters have used.

[TM99]

13. Oh, sorry, I am so

used to the denial and bullshit here, I missed your sarcasm.

[grasswire]

14. thank you for getting the point.

The longer it goes, the more political it is.

[winter is coming]

22. I doubt the FBI *wants* it to be a political matter.

My wild-assed guess is that if they can wrap things up in the next three months, they will. Justified or not, it would be bad PR for the FBI to be seen as messing with an election.

[TM99]

6. It is a serious investigation of a serious matter.

So many Democrats refuse to see it but it is true nonetheless.

They will do their best not to politicize it. These sorts of investigations, if done properly, take time.

The MSM has all but ignored it, and the only reason Fox hasn't is because, well the GOP abhors the Clintons.

It will end when it ends.

[snot]

16. My worry is that the FBI is accumulating info in order to gain leverage on her . . .

so they can control her whenever – the power their info confers might actually be more useful if/when she WERE Prez.

Gawd knows they've got nothing on Bernie.

[HooptieWagon]

18. Comey is no J Edgar Hoover.

The FBI is not gathering info for blackmail purposes.

[840high]

19. How would you know?

[HooptieWagon]

21. Comey is regarded as a straight shooter.

He's not a cross-dressing wacko on a power trip.

[840high]

29. He is a decent guy. I still think

he's under pressure.

[sheshe2]

26. If you say so.....

[Chan790]

20. Again.

Because the FBI and DoJ are not amateurs and they don't compromise their investigations by leaking.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1846507

Not even Lynch or Obama likely knows if she's going to be indicted...and that's intentional.

[HooptieWagon]

23. Lynch probably has an indication.

Since the DoJ is being updated by the FBI, and they're reviewing evidence together. Lynch probably has a feeling one way or another if she'll bring an indictment, but is waiting for the FBI to finish. I think Obsma is keeping himself separated, but i don't know that for fact. I just don't think he'd risk his legacy at this point by interfering. Only harm could come by doing do...he has nothing to gain.

[grasswire]

25. ..unless the taking down of Hillary would do him worse harm

Depends on what their relationship is. Does she have something on him? What kind of pact did they make after last campaign? Those are matters that could influence him.

I hope someone is writing a book about this dramatic six months.

[HooptieWagon]

27. I don't think they're buddy-buddy.

And I don't think he has anything to gain by involving himself. He's had no scandals on his end, why start one with a coverup? Or why hurt the Dem party by pushing for an indictment? Either way he loses by interfering. If he stays out of it, his hands are clean, legacy intact.

[karynnj]

38. He has a lot of reputation to lose if he tries to interfere

Consider that many Nixon supporters deserted him after the Saturday night massacre. There Nixon was the target, here (if there is one) it is HRC. I agree with you he won't.

However, Obama will be somewhat harmed if his Secretary of State is even reproached by the DOJ, much less indicted or one of her people indicted. It is his administration.

[senz]

60. I'll bet Obama regretted giving her SOS many times

Her lawlessness, recklessness, weapons deals and warmongering did not work out well for his legacy.

Kerry as SOS has been like night and day.

I cannot imagine what she would do as president and hope we never have to find out.

[karynnj]

62. Not to mention, Kerry always is completely respectful and praises Obama for allowing him

to work on things like the Iran deal and climate change when both were more likely to fail than succeed. The praise always sounds heart felt and genuine. Kerry is both incredibly talented and a very honorable person.

[snot]

24. The thing is,

we keep hearing rumblings of serious charges against Hillary; yet nothing concrete is brought out.

This has been going on for a pretty long while now.

If there's anything concrete behind it, either there's a prosecutorially strategic reason not to disclose the details – in which case, why all the leaks/rumblings about it? – or there's no prosecutorial reason, but rather some kind of extortionate reason, which makes more sense, because you're letting Hillary know you've got the goods on her, without giving up your power over her.

Other theories welcome.

[Demsrule86]

41. the 'rumblings are right wing crap

You hear about it because it is leaked in order that you hear about it. You just want it to be true.

[Gwhittey]

54. Actually the FBI investigation is not been that long

Patrick Cannon was Mayor of Charlotte that got caught in a FBI sting take bribes in 2010 while he was a city council member. They did not arrest him until 2014 after he was elected mayor.

[jwirr]

55. It started with the Benghazi hearings and at the end of them

the revelation that she was using a private server out of her home. Then the State started investigating but finally handed it over to the FBI who have kept the things they have been looking at secret as they should until they have a final report.

[uponit7771]

30. EMAILGAHZI!!!!

[JoePhilly]

33. + 1

[pdsimdars]

34. Hey, how about this, . . . One of the reasons Hillary gave was that she stayed in

her race with Obama was the Robert Kennedy assisination.

“My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it,” she said, dismissing calls to drop out.
(you can go look it up there are lots of sources including a video of Tweety reporting on it)

Shouldn't Bernie start saying that one reason he is staying in the race is in case Hillary is indicted?

[pdsimdars]

35. I think the reason it isn't more in the news is because the FBI hasn't released anything yet.

But once they do. They will have to report it and start taking it as seriously as it is.

[Ferd Berfel]

37. Sounds like “Anonymous” is planning to toss a monkey wrench in to the works....

Anonymous Hacker Video To Hillary: “We Are About To Expose Everything!”

http://www.occupyliberals.com/2016/04/24/anonymous-hacker-video-hillary-expose-everything/#comments

“Anonymous” is a loosely associated international network of activists and hackers. Their members are known as “Anons” and are sometimes seen in public wearing the Guy Fawkes masks as seen in the movie “V for Vendetta”.

The anarchist group has hacked the sites of several government agencies around the world, the Church of Scientology, child pornography sites, and several large corporations.

Now, they have apparently have a new target: Hillary Clinton.

This week, the esoteric group posted a video calling out many of Hillary Clinton’s lies. The video proclaims that she is no different than all the other politicians we have had in the past, and she will only bring negative change to the nation.

Speaking directly to Clinton, the mysterious figure in the video states, “It appears that lying has become second nature to you,”and “You are backed by the same dark suits that have supported every other past president.”


Video at link

[winter is coming]

39. Interesting. I wonder if they'll actually do anything. n/t

[winter is coming]

42. That's been linked on DU several times before now. n/t

[Ferd Berfel]

43. just realized that and deleted - Tx

[Vattel]

44. I trust the FBI not to politicize this, but the DOJ? I don't trust it at all.

[FourScore]

50. By virtue of not making any statement, they are politicizing it.

I think the electorate and, especially, the democrats have a right to know who is a person of interest and who isn't.

We knew with Patreus.

[Vattel]

58. I see your point

[NCTraveler]

45. Funny. You aren't projecting the appearance of comfort. Nt

[gordianot]

53. When is the last time anyone can remember a quick federal investigation?

[antigop]

59. didn't you get the memo? It's a "security review". nt

[gordianot]

61. I guess not even though one staffer got immunity.