2016 Postmortem
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(12,769 posts)Dem2
(8,177 posts)Stupid humans - when will they be perfect like robots!
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)no human intervention involved. Centralized electronic voter registration integrated into the (required) State central vote tabulation software was rolled out (and federally subsidized) for this election.
Dem2
(8,177 posts)Clearly an error was made, these happen ALL THE TIME - I've seen so many in my years watching returns roll in that I barely blink and eye when I see an obvious mistake corrected. These corrections are often mentioned on TV broadcasts too - they are very common.
Math.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)is different from all before it due to the software change. There were no humans transcribing numbers onto a screen as in previous years.
Dem2
(8,177 posts)I would assume that the NYT feed is tied in directly (or whatever feed that misguided blogger was using), but I've heard the geeks on cable news mention transposition errors, it does seem odd that a human would be transcribing this information, but somewhere along the line an error was made. Perhaps the ballots aren't all machine tabulated in DE and the error started there where votes are counted and flowed through from there?
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)error runs first, uncovering the error. The error producing set of conditions may have originated any number of ways and therefore can't be diagnosed without a forensic investigation. The flag here is a software algorithm issue generated a false result which should spur a software forensic investigation except, smack, the software is proprietary & a trade secret.
questionseverything
(9,983 posts)get the word out
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)BradBlog
(2,938 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)questionseverything
(9,983 posts)Response to ViseGrip (Reply #4)
questionseverything This message was self-deleted by its author.
questionseverything
(9,983 posts)Tarc
(10,548 posts)And once again, there is no comment or challenge by an actual Sanders campaign official. Just blogs and their "theories".
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)But, I hear that campaign officials are not the ones who analyze electronic voting, nor verify anything here. Isn't that just amazing?
You can pick me up a box of Reynolds Aluminum Foil, too, Tarc.
Tarc
(10,548 posts)Funny how they have not done so.
peace13
(11,076 posts)AZ was a prime example. Hurry up and vote for her because these problems will not be resolved by her administration. She doesn't see it as a problem. Same as you. Kiss your rights goodbye!
Tarc
(10,548 posts)The rest of the "fraud!" cries are largely Camp Sanders nonsense.
peace13
(11,076 posts)Election fraud has been rampant in most states this primary. Have you ever worked an election poll or witnessed a 'recount'? If you had you would not be so certain of your view. I have stood on the streets of Columbus, Ohio day after day trying to make certain that the vote count was true for all Americans. That election went down...stolen.. With one hundred people on the street. That was it. That is how apathetic our citizens are. Go ahead and dance the last nail in the coffin. You, represent the majority. Pity that!
peace13
(11,076 posts)It is nothing to be laughed at.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)pacalo
(24,727 posts)in one county in Deleware.
How does a candidate get votes subtracted?
The percentages reported tell the story, he couldn't possibly have that many votes with the percent that had reported at the time.
I'm certain is was a transposed pair of numbers or a typo, it happens all the time. I've seen so many of these corrections, but I think nothing of it as I know these numbers are typed in by fallible humans. I spotted the issue in the link with this post within 30 seconds. Easy stuff for numbers people.
pacalo
(24,727 posts)Considering who it is & the ambition so fierce she made sure she had a stacked deck before she had a Democratic opponent, I'm not convinced this is human "error".
Elections have been projected just as quickly.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Dem2
(8,177 posts)Where people who can't comprehend what happens hundreds of times on Election night - a tabulation error - say something that's inherently obvious?
Do you actually have an opinion or ...?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Dem2
(8,177 posts)You haven't proven anything - you can't just keep asking the question over and over again when you know the answer -it's silly.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Maybe you need to concentrate on your reading comprehension.
Dem2
(8,177 posts)I have the feeling you aren't getting the math.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)... which you don't think you can answer...
I think it's time you just played with someone else, because YOU don't even get what is being question. Well, you do, but why would you care?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)pacalo
(24,727 posts)Response to pacalo (Reply #21)
rjsquirrel This message was self-deleted by its author.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Have at me.
I dealt with bullies when I came out in junior high school this poor unfortunate poster can handle whatever bullishit you want to throw at me.
Lol.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)You want to be mentioned by name, to which I say, "why bother enticing something like your posts when you can pity their source?"
Sorry you, like many, many (too many) were bullied in junior high school, but this is a discussion board. You'll have to throw your own shit, because non of it sticks here.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)You did.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)But, if you insist... I'm sorry referring to what you said was from an "unfortunate" poster hurt your feelings.
I still think what you say here is designed to hurt others, so why don't you throw THAT out.
KPN
(15,995 posts)We need a voting system that has unquestionable integrity. Getting that would probably take a lot of human-power, especially if it is balanced. The first step is accepting these irregularities at face value. Then monitoring closely but in balanced fashion. I doubt that the first will occur though. The entrenched interests have too much (in their view) at stake and a lot of money. The commoner has a lot at stake too -- but far less money and must rely on movements to protect their interests. Tough rowing in the face of divide and conquer planning and operations with big money backing it.
On the other hand, real revolutions don't get put down. Are we seeing a real revolution? .... It is if we want it so. Do we?
pacalo
(24,727 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)This should be taken seriously and investigated.
Those who want it to be ignored should be ignored themselves.
Let's get to the bottom of it.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I'm making myself sick responding to the distractions around here.
vintx
(1,748 posts)2000, 2004...
This isn't the party it used to be.
Andy Stephenson would be so proud of so many people here.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Hate her policies, hate her deeds, hate her cheating and lying.
Dem2
(8,177 posts)Just admit you hate her guts and would believe the most over-the-top made up tinfoil bullshit against her.
Also, see http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511845492#post57 for the math.
peace13
(11,076 posts)...about voting irregularities is very odd. Winning at all costs. Even if she didn't rig it, there are questions that she should address! Either way it's dishonest.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)in pretend elections. I know it irritates some people, but that is the reality.
snot
(10,649 posts)Can anyone provide more info about the source?????
I find it all only too plausible; just want to make sure we're not being Ratherized.
snot
(10,649 posts)If you have any actual evidence/bases for discrediting the source, PLEASE SHARE.
djean111
(14,255 posts)The Democratic tent is pretty much in rags and tatters. I won't be in it.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)dchill
(39,875 posts)But then I realized, you've got to be kidding yourself.
When Hillary jumped on the Obama bandwagon, she went all in.
dchill
(39,875 posts)Which, of course, she denies.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)... and she did so behind the scenes ... gracefully ... which is what I'm talking about. I'm guessing Bernie's gonna go out like the people flouncing on message boards going on about how they'll never vote for her.
dchill
(39,875 posts)"Gracefully!"
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Try to keep up!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)steal elections. We are fighting for lives in the 99% that the Rich And Powerful don't care about.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)... and the side of my family.
You know nothing about me. According to half the people who have fired at me in the past week, I'm a paid troll and not even a real person. If I'm not a real person, then I don't even have a choice so why are you concerned about it?
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)lmbradford
(517 posts)Dem2
(8,177 posts)There was a total of 15,973 votes total cast in Sussex County Delaware last night, see http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/delaware
At the time the screenshot was taken, it was reported that 16.4% of the vote was in:
Bernie: 6247
Hillary: 1250
So one would have to believe that 6247+1250 = 7497 votes was 16.9% of 15,973!
Actually, that works out to be 47% of the vote (7497/15973.)
This is impossible and was clearly a typographical error.
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After they fixed the typo, the numbers make more sense:
39.7% reporting
Hillary: 3592
Bernie: 2383
5,975 votes combined or 37.4% of the total votes cast.
The reason the % reporting and actual percent of total don't match exactly is due to variations in the size and turnout of various precincts within a county.
So, in conclusion, the numbers of votes reported when 16.4% had reported was clearly a typo which was later corrected.
Case closed.
DookDook
(166 posts)I only vote because I like to think that I can be the mote in God's eye.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Democracy.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)The UNADJUSTED exit poll indicated a close race. Hillary led by just 52-48%, an 11.8% discrepancy from the recorded vote. There were 1391 respondents and a 2.6% exit poll Margin of Error. Clinton led by a whopping 62-38% in the vote count with 33% of precincts reporting.
At 9:03 pm, there were 1307 exit poll respondents, Clinton led the actual count by 680-627 (52.0-48.0%). With just 84 additional respondents (1391 total), Clintons lead increased to 802-589 (57.7-42.3%). She had 122 additional respondents and Sanders had 38 fewer.
How can Clinton gain 122 of 84 respondents? How can Sanders total drop? They cant. It is mathematically impossible. Therefore the final vote has to be impossible as well. . The exit poll was forced to match the recorded vote with impossible adjustments.