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Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:53 PM

Howard Dean lost the 2004 Democratic Primary

However, in losing, he transformed how candidates raise awareness and money through use of the internet.

As a stalwart Hillary Clinton supporter, I hope she wins all of the states tomorrow. However, Bernie Sanders campaign will probably shape the narrative for the next 2-3 Presidential election cycles in much the same way that Howard Dean's loss built a foundation on which Barack Obama 's team built a successful campaign.

I have done more than my share of grousing about "I-VT" and that he won't join the party. Let me ask Sanders supporters this:

For the sake of discussion let's suppose that Hillary Clinton wins the nomination. If Bernie Sanders would switch from "I" to "D", could we consider him for the next Chair of the DNC? After all, Dean did a pretty good job, IIRC.

Just throwing it out there....

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Reply Howard Dean lost the 2004 Democratic Primary (Original post)
Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 OP
winter is coming Apr 2016 #1
Gwhittey Apr 2016 #2
winter is coming Apr 2016 #6
Gwhittey Apr 2016 #8
Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #11
jfern Apr 2016 #4
JI7 Apr 2016 #3
AllyCat Apr 2016 #5
Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #12
StevieM Apr 2016 #16
NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #7
Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #9
AllyCat Apr 2016 #19
Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #20
Major Nikon Apr 2016 #13
NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #15
Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #18
quaker bill Apr 2016 #17
Lucinda Apr 2016 #21
Autumn Apr 2016 #10
artislife Apr 2016 #14

Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:54 PM

1. Sanders is the last person on Earth the DNC would accept as Chair. n/t

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:57 PM

2. Amasing how someone could say that

 

It is like they do not see how DNC loves money in politics. Hell DWS at start of the primary changed DNC rules so they could take lobbyist money, a Rule that Obama implemented.

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Response to Gwhittey (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:00 PM

6. Well, if you look at it from the perspective of drawing in the next generation

of voters, it makes perfect sense. If you look at it from the "status quo" perspective, it's lunacy. IMO, too much of the Party leadership thinks we can continue relying on scare tactics to attract people.

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:04 PM

8. Well it kidna worked

 

They status quo is working because HRC is doing better. I wonder how long it will take for all MSM low information voters to die off so only people who don't get feed bullshit from Cable news are no longer largest voting block. I bet if we have a Hillary White House we are going to see a big time SOPA deal come down. They are going to start filtering the internet.

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:10 PM

11. My feeling is that that was what Dean did

Clinton appealed heavily to the Baby Boomers. Dean appealed more to the late boomers and GenXers who were more technologically savvy and had different concerns and perspectives.

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:59 PM

4. Yup, this is a pretty absurd OP

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:58 PM

3. he has no interest in being DNC chair

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:59 PM

5. Remember, they ousted Dean when he was actually successful.

For whatever reason, the DNC feels the need to continue to lose statehouses, governorships, and Senatorial seats. We need Sanders in Congress if we do not have him in the White House.

Thank you for your post and your questions. And thanks for not posting in the HRC group since we are all banned for asking similar but smaller questions.

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:11 PM

12. There was a turf war over who was responsible for 2006

Was it Dean? Was it Rahm Emmanuel?

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:21 PM

16. I don't think it is fair to say that Dean was ousted.

He served for four years, which is the longest that party chairman usually serve for.

When Obama became president he appointed Tim Kaine to the job. Every incoming president chooses their own party chair. There was no "they" involved in the process. It was strictly Obama's decision.

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:03 PM

7. Not my call, obviously ...

... but I wouldn't trust Bernie in respect of anything to do with the Democratic party.

He bashed the Democrats for decades - then asked to run on their ticket - and went right back to bashing them.

He can drag his sorry loser as back to Vermont - I don't even want to hear his name again.



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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:08 PM

9. It's not my call either

Obviously, I'd call you before I'd call Bernie for the job running the party.

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:35 PM

19. So why are you asking if he would be a good chair?

Why even pose the question if you think a fellow DUer who hates him is better ?

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:46 PM

20. Ummm...because I consider Nance to be a friend

In a DU sort of way.

Do you not have friends?

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:55 PM

13. Results...

On Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:47 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Not my call, obviously ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1832252

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Hillary will be the nominee we need to unite DU and the party this is not the way to do it

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:54 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nope. The Hillary bashers accuse her of being in cahoots with the Kochs, much worse than this.
Besides this should all end on Wednesday morning.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sounds as dumb as something Trump would say, but not really hide worthy.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: While I agree that bashing the "other" candidate (whichever one it is) does nothing to unite the party, I don't see it as "disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate."

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:10 PM

15. Amazing.

Given the anti-HRC/anti-Dem garbage that is allowed to be posted here 24/7, it's laughable that someone thought that post should be alerted on.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:11 PM

18. Give it 24 hours, I reckon

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:41 PM

17. I find Bernie a breath of fresh air.

It is long past time that we had a career Democratic Politician standup and speak bluntly about economic issues. I am tired of weak tea and triangulation.

That aside, we agree, I would not want Bernie to spend his time attempting to fix the DLC. "22 State" Hillary will fix it all on her own.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:37 AM

21. My response would have been many words shorter, yours is MUCH nicer, so I'll just

+1 you, and save my potty mouth for another day.

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:09 PM

10. The DNC would accept any republican over Bernie, hell they would disband the democratic

party before they would do that.

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:00 PM

14. No.

 

Her platform will not be up to snuff.

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