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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
1. Well, I don't know about outliars but the last few polls (3/4) have shown
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:30 PM
Mar 2012

Brown opening up a lead. The latest showed her ten points down and Obama leading Romney by 18. I don't know if he's been heavily advertising or not. I still think it will be a close election and that EW will win.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
2. I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why it
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:38 PM
Mar 2012

should even be "close".

I'd have thought that the Repub war on women would have pretty much sunk Brown. It sure should.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
3. I don't get it either. If MA trends right, we might as well kiss off the rest of the country
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:41 PM
Mar 2012

and into a corporate dystopia with a bunch of lambs.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
4. The vote on the Blunt Amendment was just yesterday
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:49 PM
Mar 2012

It may take some time for Scott Brown's vote on THAT to register with the Massachusetts electorate. Warren is not officially the nominee either and doesn't have a lot of name recognition as of yet. There's still time to make up the gap. I have a hard time believing that Scott "finger in the wind" Brown is going to just run away with this election. The thing that I find strange about this is that Warren was closing in on if not slightly ahead of Brown at one point but then polls started coming out showing Brown wildly ahead. Did Warren say or do something between those two time periods that were controversial or caught a lot of flak for (I mean, other than with the Fox News crowd)? Brown seems to be somewhat of a moderate and has voted to the left on some things of course but I'm not sure how easy it will be for him to explain away his otherwise obstructionist behavior not to mention his vote on the clearly extremist Blunt Amendment.

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
5. Even if Blunt ammendment isn't factored in yet, Brown shouldn't be ahead.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:29 PM
Mar 2012

I hope that women aren't voting their fantacy, but the issues. Brown is for the banking sector, where he gets most of his donors, Elizabeth raises money out of state "Hollywood", to compete with Karl Rove and banking interests giving to Brown.
She has the peoples interests and their financial challenges in mind, to even playing field.
Look at Browns votes for banking, big oil , insurance, and now womens contraception health issues. She may very well vote for the next supreme court justice, that will have to revisit progress that the repugs are intent on undoing.
I'm surprised that it is even a contest in a state like Mass.
If money were brains she would be US mint, Brown would be bankrupt.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
7. He's ahead because our local media loves giving him long, sloppy blowjobs.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:53 PM
Mar 2012

The Boston Herald and the Telegram & Gazette fucking love him. They won't say anything negative about him.

I expect once they both begin campaigning, however, Warren will start swinging a bigger bat and Brown won't know what hit him. Also, this Blunt Amendment stuff is going to hit him HARD with women in MA.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
6. Massachusetts Doesn't Vote for Women
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:44 PM
Mar 2012

Look it up. If they don't vote for Warren, then they can all go to hell.

Fuck Mass. and Fuck the Red Sox.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
8. Brown is a recently elected incumbent Senator
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:49 PM
Mar 2012

Nobody ever said this was going to be a cakewalk for Warren.

ShadowLiberal

(2,237 posts)
9. Brown is a skilled politician, that's how he won in a deep blue state last time
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:43 PM
Mar 2012

Some people here are getting a bit too excited about beating Brown being a sure thing. The fact is Brown showed himself to be a skilled politician with his win of the senate seat a few years ago, and our own candidate showed herself to be less skilled then the average politician.

Is it possible to defeat a skilled politician like Brown? Certainly, it's been done before by both parties in states that should favor them. But we need to run a good campaign, and Elizabeth Warren needs to prove herself as a skilled politician, and not a mediocre one.

If you want evidence of how far skilled politicians can go in deeply red/blue states that seem unlikely to elect them just look at plenty of other senators who broke through anyway, like Snowe in Maine, Kerrey in Nebraska, etc.

I'm not saying we won't win Brown's seat, I'm just saying it's going to be a tough fight, not a shoo in for us.

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