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Cal33

(7,018 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:54 PM Apr 2016

If it's true that Cruz's wife has a copy of Hillary's Goldman Sachs speech transcript, this is

my guess of what is likely to happen: The Republicans would wait until after the Democratic
Primaries are over before they make public the transcript. It would be highly foolish of them
to publish it in the news right now, since it would be helping Sanders to win -- which is
something they desperately wish to avoid. They know their chances of losing to him are very
real.

All they need to do is to wait until some time after the Democratic Primaries, and Hillary
would have to either stop the race, or resign if she were already president. The
Republicans would be sparing themselves a great deal of trouble.

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If it's true that Cruz's wife has a copy of Hillary's Goldman Sachs speech transcript, this is (Original Post) Cal33 Apr 2016 OP
I know this sounds crazy Trenzalore Apr 2016 #1
Maybe there's no transcript because there was no speech in the first place? Califonz Apr 2016 #2
Most people don't lie about money on their taxes Ruby the Liberal Apr 2016 #4
Yes, when has Hillary ever lied about anything? Califonz Apr 2016 #7
As far as the Republican Party is concerned, it wouldn't benefit them leaking after Cal33 Apr 2016 #14
I'm sure there's no video of them all pumping their fists and chanting "Screw the poor" speaktruthtopower Apr 2016 #3
They'd rather run against Hillary than Bernie. She's easier to beat. senz Apr 2016 #5
If they made the transcrips public after the Democratic Primaries and before the General Cal33 Apr 2016 #11
I dunno, a release in the GE could result in the Koch-favored cross-over vote from the GOP HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #6
That woman was found on the side of the road crying KingFlorez Apr 2016 #8
What do you think it is? Bear in mind that it *is* worth the price she's paid to keep it secret. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #9
It's highly doubtful she admitted to crimes or anything illegal in that speech KingFlorez Apr 2016 #10
Okay, if not crimes, then what is she keeping secret that is worth the grief she's gotten? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #13
A wild guess: Something very embarrassing to herself (if it became public news) Cal33 Apr 2016 #15
I've been to plenty of these type speeches at Regional meetings Yupster Apr 2016 #18
That's interesting to know. Cal33 Apr 2016 #19
Heidi Cruz has suffered from chronic depression. Please delete this riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #12
I agree spouses shouldn't be part of campaign fodder nt. rbrnmw Apr 2016 #17
What a bizarre viewpoint totally unsupported by any facts or information whatsoever Corporate666 Apr 2016 #16
I think you could read Yupster's post #18 above. Cal33 Apr 2016 #20

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
1. I know this sounds crazy
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:58 PM
Apr 2016

There are probably a few people at Goldman who support Senator Sanders. If a Goldman Sachs employee from Texas has access to the speeches I assume those people would as well.

 

Califonz

(465 posts)
2. Maybe there's no transcript because there was no speech in the first place?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

Thus the lack of even one Goldman eyewitness coming forward to give an anonymous account of what she said.

Pure payoffs for future services to be rendered.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
4. Most people don't lie about money on their taxes
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

by claiming receipt of hundreds of thousands that they never earned. Your experience may vary on that.

As for the leaks, it doesn't gain anyone in Camp RWNJ anything to release a single syllable before the GE...

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
14. As far as the Republican Party is concerned, it wouldn't benefit them leaking after
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

the GE, because then Hillary's Vice-President would become President after Hillary
resigns. There would still be a Democrat as President.

But, if some individual is leaking it for personal gain, then, of course, it would be a
different story

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
5. They'd rather run against Hillary than Bernie. She's easier to beat.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:40 PM
Apr 2016

And they are sitting on a huge pile of evidence.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
11. If they made the transcrips public after the Democratic Primaries and before the General
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:28 PM
Apr 2016

Election, they wouldn't even have to run against Hillary at all, because she would
have to discontinue the race. Does this mean Sanders would be back in the
picture, even though he will have lost to Hillary in the Primaries? If not, there
would be no Democratic competitor at all against the Republicans.

This is getting rather complicated. I wonder if there are any existing laws on
the above possibility.

I don't think the Republicans would wait until after Hillary has become
President to publish the transcripts, because her Vice-President would then
become President, when Hillary steps down.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. I dunno, a release in the GE could result in the Koch-favored cross-over vote from the GOP
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:06 PM
Apr 2016

IMO, if such were going to be used to stop HRC such would need to be released before the primary season ends.

It doesn't look like such will happen.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
8. That woman was found on the side of the road crying
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:13 PM
Apr 2016

She'd be stupid to mess with the Clintons, because they could do a lot more damage to her image than a transcript ever could. She'd be on the side of the road crying again once the Clintons got through with her.

With that said, whatever was said in that speech is not even remotely what people think it is.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
10. It's highly doubtful she admitted to crimes or anything illegal in that speech
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:22 PM
Apr 2016

If she did someone would have come forward by now and stated that she confessed to killing Vince Foster or whatever crime people think she confessed to in the speech.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
15. A wild guess: Something very embarrassing to herself (if it became public news)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

that would cause many of her supporters to switch sides and go over to Bernie.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
18. I've been to plenty of these type speeches at Regional meetings
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

The company brings in big shots to make you feel like you work for a great company.

The big shot rains praise on the company and its leadership. That's what you get for $ 50,000 and up.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
12. Heidi Cruz has suffered from chronic depression. Please delete this
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:53 PM
Apr 2016

She doesn't deserve your shameful distortion of that episode from years ago.

Shameful.



Mental illness isn't something to be belittled. I despise her husband but I really wish we'd lay off the spouses.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
16. What a bizarre viewpoint totally unsupported by any facts or information whatsoever
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:24 PM
Apr 2016

What exactly do you folks think is in the transcripts?

Moreover, what would be in there that would have he RESIGN as President if she wins? That is an absolutely ludicrous extrapolation.

She gave a speech to a specific audience, and the speech was obviously tailored to that audience. If transcripts were released, people would pick apart every word and sentence and take things out of context to attack her. There is literally NOTHING for her to gain by releasing them. People who won't vote for her on the presumption that there's something bad in there are no different than people who won't vote for BS on the presumption that he cheated on prior years taxes. There's just nothing to support the allegation.

The only thing that could be in the transcripts that would force her to resign at the dem candidate or (even more ridiculously) to resign as the President would be incontrovertible proof that the committed at least one or more felonies.

And if people think she stood up in front of a room of bankers to give a rah-rah speech and started confessing to high crimes, they have totally lost the plot.

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