2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow would Hilary Clinton "Create a Moral Economy"?
Its my understanding that Hillary Clinton is the candidate of Austerity which means taking away 'subsidies" like wage and labor laws and privatizing social and public services- to make them more profitable for big Corporations - including ones from other countries, at the expense of Americans. Still she wants our votes.
thats exactly the opposite of what Jesus told us, we should heal the sick and help the poor.
that is an immoral economy.
She is pushing trade deals that will funnel money to the lowest bidding firms which in many cases will be from the other side of the world, so government spending wont create jobs. They may build infrastructure but without jobs it will just sit unused, and jobs in the era of automation will require education.
This all looks very bad for most of us. how would Hillary reverse this and create a "moral Economy" and not one that just offered due process" for poor people imprisoning them and exploiting them for the benefit of her biggest donors?
dchill
(38,471 posts)Maybe Paul Krugman could advise... Oh, wait. Never mind.
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)She wants an "amoral" economy. You know, rich people, with wage-slaves to do their work.
dchill
(38,471 posts)But I can see it.
antigop
(12,778 posts)jack_krass
(1,009 posts)Wait until shes out of office
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)of which she is both a part while being subservient to her masters...
yourout
(7,527 posts)Once you have their money ... never give it back.
Never pay more for an acquisition than you have to.
Never allow family to stand in the way of opportunity.
A man is only worth the sum of his possessions. (From Enterprise, episode "Acquisition"; sloppy script-writing, as rule 6 (see above) was already given in DS9)
Keep your ears open.
Small print leads to large risk.
Opportunity plus instinct equals profit.
Greed is eternal.
Anything worth doing is worth doing for money.
A deal is a deal ... until a better one comes along.
A contract is a contract is a contract (but only between Ferengi).
A Ferengi without profit is no Ferengi at all.
Satisfaction is not guaranteed.
Never place friendship above profit.
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She can touch your lobes but never your latinum.
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The riskier the road, the greater the profit.
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Females and finances don't mix.
Enough ... is never enough.
Every man has his price. (DS9 season 6, episode 19 - "In the Pale Moonlight"
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Sleep can interfere with profit. (DS9 season 2, episode 7 - "Rules of Acquisition"
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Treat people in your debt like family ... exploit them.
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Everything is for sale, even friendship.
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Even in the worst of times someone turns a profit.
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Know your enemies ... but do business with them always.
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Let others keep their reputation. You keep their money.
Hear all, trust nothing.
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It's always good business to know about new customers before they walk in the door.
The justification for profit is profit.
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You can't free a fish from water.
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A wealthy man can afford anything except a conscience.
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When in doubt, lie.
Deep down everyone's a Ferengi.
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onecaliberal
(32,824 posts)Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)It was and is Obama who is the austerity guy. Clinton has an understanding of Keynesian economics.
2nd fuck what jEzuZ told us. Xtianity is a horrible moral system
Baobab
(4,667 posts)which would mean that wages here would have to fall a lot until they reached an equilibrium point closer to that of huge countries like India, than to wages here now.
"For a deeper understanding of how migration could equalize the price of labour in two trading
countries, consider figure one (from Senior Nello, 2005:145): There are two countries, Home
and Foreign. The total quantity of labour in the two countries is shown by the distance OhOf.
Before a fully free migration is allowed the distribution of labor is OhL in Home and OfL in
Foreign. The marginal product of labour is higher in Home than in foreign because the
capital/labor ratio is higher in Home. This is shown in the figure by the higher position of the
MPLh curve compared to the MPLf curve. Because of this the wage is higher in Home, at Wh
compared with the wage in Foreign at Wf. In short: Home symbolizes a developed country with
high automatization and high wages and Foreign a less developed country with abundant supply
of labour, low automatization and low wages. If migration is fully free between the two
countries and the workers are identical workers will migrate from Foreign to Home in pursuit of
higher wages. The migration will finally result in an equalized capital/labor ratio in the two
countries and thus equal marginal products of labor and equal wages, illustrated in the figure by
the wage level W' which could be seen as the world market price of labor as the world only
consists of the two countries Home and Foreign. The migration is illustrated in the figure by the
distance LL' which is the amount of workers that will move from Foreign to Home so that the
new distribution of labour becomes OhL' in Home and L'Of in Foreign.
Wages will thus decrease in Home and increase in Foreign resulting in a loss for the indigenous
workers in Home illustrated in the figure by the area a but a gain for the capital owners of the
areas a+b. In Foreign the workers get an increased income of areas c+d+e while the capital
owners lose areas d+e. The result in total is a net gain for the two countries by areas b+c which
is a gain resulting from higher efficiency in the use of the total resources of the two countries.
This simplified model of reality shows not only that there is a net gain but also that the
migration has clear redistributional effects, something that will be discussed below"
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)So your answer to global competition is closing the border as well?
Another response would be for "home" to spend lavishly on infrastructure, education, and building a social safety net. But if building a wall is your goto then you just be you.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Also some background in the March 4 issue.
I said nothing about Trump. You should read up a bit on US trade commitments to economic integration globally.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)dchill
(38,471 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)If I have to swallow it, move on I will. Indeed.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Horrible meme from the Clinton camp. Horrible.
Vinca
(50,261 posts)Wouldn't want seniors to be able to afford a better grade of cat food.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)You don't even talk about Sanders. You talk about Clinton, a person you hate. {Sigh.}
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dchill
(38,471 posts)what YOU think it means.
Edited to add: She's earned the hatred. But who knows? Maybe I'll just flip flop on that, right?
randome
(34,845 posts)Parental leave rights across the board.
Stronger union representation.
Limits on CEO compensation.
Hell, you could even throw in outlawing voting restrictions as part of a healthy economy.
Mostly what we hear from Sanders is some variation on "Break up the banks!" without explaining what that means, either.
I'm sure some here will castigate Clinton for trying to push for raising the minimum wage but coming in below $15/hr. I believe she's trying to get Republicans to come on board with this because, like it or not, nothing will change until they do.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]
Baobab
(4,667 posts)is created. So no, its very risky . Countries need to set their wages for the entire future high enough before signing any trade deals or they run the risk of having to compensate multinational corporations for that change.
So, all a company has to do is move to another trading partner and then they have to be compensated for any change that effects their bottom line, smart huh?
demwing
(16,916 posts)and my first thought was - did that back in the 90's friend. Been there, done that.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Hillary Clinton commits to Big Banks to keep profits Rising By taking Away Public Services And Deregulation
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)onecaliberal
(32,824 posts)Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)Why do you guys post this stuff? It won't change or mind or the result...she won...try will instead of would.