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Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:48 AM

Actual NYT headline: Hillary Clinton Warns Voters About Donald Trump’s Evolving Image

States that voters should judge him by his prior comments and actions, rather than what he's saying now to win votes.


CENTRAL FALLS, R.I. — If Donald J. Trump starts to soften his image, Hillary Clinton has a warning for voters.

Don’t believe it.

“Trump,” she said at a rally here on Saturday, “keeps saying things like, ‘Well, you know, uh, I didn’t really mean it. It was all part of my reality TV show.’”

“Well, you know what?” she added. “If we buy that, shame on us. Because he’s already showed us what he believes and he’s already said what he wants to do, and he wants to go after every one of the rights we have.”...


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/23/hillary-clinton-warns-voters-about-donald-trumps-evolving-image/


Wow. Just, wow. Pot, kettle and all that. Don't believe it, and, "shame on us", indeed.

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Reply Actual NYT headline: Hillary Clinton Warns Voters About Donald Trump’s Evolving Image (Original post)
Barack_America Apr 2016 OP
winter is coming Apr 2016 #1
Kittycat Apr 2016 #2
astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #3
Bonobo Apr 2016 #4
Joob Apr 2016 #5
Metric System Apr 2016 #6
Fumesucker Apr 2016 #9
Hatchling Apr 2016 #7
Fumesucker Apr 2016 #8
cui bono Apr 2016 #10
uponit7771 Apr 2016 #11
cui bono Apr 2016 #12
uponit7771 Apr 2016 #14
cui bono Apr 2016 #15
uponit7771 Apr 2016 #18
cui bono Apr 2016 #37
Broward Apr 2016 #16
uponit7771 Apr 2016 #19
uponit7771 Apr 2016 #34
Broward Apr 2016 #36
cui bono Apr 2016 #39
Broward Apr 2016 #43
Barack_America Apr 2016 #22
uponit7771 Apr 2016 #35
cui bono Apr 2016 #40
Autumn Apr 2016 #30
nc4bo Apr 2016 #13
Broward Apr 2016 #17
Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #20
pampango Apr 2016 #21
Barack_America Apr 2016 #24
pampango Apr 2016 #26
Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #23
NCTraveler Apr 2016 #25
smiley Apr 2016 #27
Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #28
Doctor_J Apr 2016 #29
Autumn Apr 2016 #31
Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #32
FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #33
lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #38
Barack_America Apr 2016 #45
azurnoir Apr 2016 #41
EndElectoral Apr 2016 #42
opiate69 Apr 2016 #44

Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:52 AM

1. Holy cow.

Bernie's got a town hall on MSNBC on Monday night. Imagine the audience laughter if he referred to this.

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:18 AM

2. +225,000 Come on now, Cut it out.

I read today that Annie Oakley is packing heat again.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:43 AM

3. Things like this

Make it easier to understand POV of people who don't see much of a difference between the two. Who is allowed to evolve in this race?

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:45 AM

4. Ha ha ha ha! Boom!! nt

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:31 AM

5. "He's not evolving, he's acting, trust me. I know. Don't believe it!!"

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:51 AM

6. Yes, because Hillary and Trump are so alike. Some of you have lost all sense of reality.

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Response to Metric System (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:25 AM

9. Close but not quite..

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:12 AM

7. What!?

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:20 AM

8. Shame on us if we believe evolving politicians

Because they've already shown us what they believe and they've already said what they want to do.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:54 AM

10. Good. Now we can use this reasoning without complaints from the Hillary fans.

Can't wait!

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Response to cui bono (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:56 AM

11. Yeap, so can we on Sanders immoral gun stance... oh wait, he still has an immoral gun stance cause

... being wrong and honest about being wrong is way better than

progressing

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:58 AM

12. Did you google who Kissinger is yet?

Or do you still think what he did isn't as bad as a black man criticizing Obama with a term you dislike?

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Response to cui bono (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:00 AM

14. Yeap, still better than an immoral gun stance that is hurting 10s of thousands of Americans now

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:02 AM

15. So Kissinger isn't so bad??? Okay, you're either completely morally depraved or you didn't

actually find out who Kissinger is. You really shouldn't post opinions about someone you know nothing about. It makes you look really stupid. But you are brave for posting such tripe, even if you are losing your nak... er... knack for words.

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Response to cui bono (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:08 AM

18. Strawman, Did he vote for corporate immunity and against the Brady Bill 5 times? Could give

... a shit what another shit head did 1234p01n years ago

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #18)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:03 PM

37. You're telling me my post is a strawman? Read upthread, your first reply to me.

If that isn't a strawman then it most certainly is deflection of the most egregious kind. Do you even remember what the OP headline is? Here's a refresher for you:
Actual NYT headline: Hillary Clinton Warns Voters About Donald Trump’s Evolving Image

Funny, I don't see Sanders in that headline at all. Oh, my, guess what? He's not mentioned in the body of that OP either. I wonder why and how his name got brought up? Oh yeah, deflection from the hypocrisy of your own chosen candidate.

And actually, you thinking Cornell West is worse than Kissinger is extremely relevant. It shows you don't know what you are talking about and that there's not much point discussing things with you since you don't have the facts to have a good political barometer for comparing and contrasting various politicians.

So go learn who Kissinger is. Your idol respects him and I think might have even said something about him being a mentor, though that might not be correct. But she pals around with him and considers him a friend. It's something that's important to know about someone.

It's also important to know that mass murder of innocent people is quite a lot worse than calling a public figure a name in your criticism of their policies. If you honestly don't think that is true there's no point in anyone discussing anything with you as you have shown that you have no moral compass what so ever and will defend anything at all if you think it's a defense of Hillary.

And if you are going to make statements about people you have admitted knowing pretty much nothing about then again, there's no point taking anything you say seriously and you have shown yourself to be willing to post about things of which you admit to being ignorant.

But I bet your socks are comfy and that's really all that matters, isn't it?

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:03 AM

16. Are you saying Hillary is progressing? Some people will believe anything

or at least pretend to.

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Response to Broward (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:08 AM

19. I'm saying Sanders isn't and that's a bad thing

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Response to Broward (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:25 AM

34. I don't hate Hillary Clinton so its different for me, I understand you don't trust her

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #34)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:01 AM

36. You're blinded by love.

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Response to Broward (Reply #36)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:06 PM

39. And ignorance.

She told me she doesn't know much about Kissinger but that Cornell West criticizing Obama is worse than what Kissinger did.



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Response to cui bono (Reply #39)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:22 PM

43. Wow, that speaks for itself.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:36 AM

22. You have read Clinton's recent quotes PRAISING guns, no?

AKA, her "white people, non-inner city" position on gun control.

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Response to Barack_America (Reply #22)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:27 AM

35. Hopefully she's praising guns, I never thought she was against them just against immoral corporate

... immunity years after Sanders was helped by the NRA.

Americans aren't against guns, just the immoral ties Sanders has to the industry

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #35)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:08 PM

40. You have no moral compass to make any judgment on morality because

you think that Cornell West criticizing Obama is worse than Kissinger's mass murder of innocent lives.

And Sanders has no such immoral ties to any industry. You know very well he has a D- from the NRA. We all know who you are. Why you get a pass is beyond me because you just bring this site down to tabloid levels.

Not that it matters much any more. It already has nowhere near the level of intelligent posts and people it had when BushCo was in office. After that the cheerleading squads arrived and most insightful analysis and critical thought was met by immature retorts and smileys.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:29 AM

30. Annie Oakleys back


“I want to be really clear about this, because I learned how to shoot a gun behind our cottage in Lake Winola,” Mrs. Clinton said. “And I know how important gun ownership and particularly hunting is here in northeastern Pennsylvania.”
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/23/hillary-clintons-pennsylvania-visit-is-another-welcome-home/


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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:58 AM

13. LOL! who would know better than Hillary, the expert evolutionist.

Whats she up to now? 5.0, 10.1, 20.9?

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:06 AM

17. Shame on us is right.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:17 AM

20. So I take it that this means that Hillary is supporting Bernie.

After all, he's the only candidate who doesn't have to constantly "evolve" or retract his statements.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:40 AM

21. So Trump is not the "tell it like it is", anti-"political correctness" 'outsider' that

he pretends to be? He's an actor playing a role and playing his supporters for fools.

Bernie and Hillary had both better be prepared to emphasize Trump's 'evolution' during the GE.

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Response to pampango (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:40 AM

24. Trump as a populist is as believable as Clinton being "tough on Wall Street".

Shame on whomever fell for either schtick.

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Response to Barack_America (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:47 AM

26. Agreed. Trump is no 'populist' though he does play one on TV.

It does bother me that some liberals seem to believe that the rhetoric that Trump spews is some kind of 'proof' that he is a real populist - or more Democratic or more liberal than our candidates - while discounting any rhetoric coming from our own candidates as insincere 'mere rhetoric'.

Political rhetoric is just that and always has been.

Shame on whomever fell for either schtick.

Exactly!

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:38 AM

23. You can cut hypocrisy with a knife

Hillary is Tofu.
She takes on any flavor around her.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:42 AM

25. Take him head on Clinton. Don't hold back. Nt

 

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:11 AM

27. The irony of her own words.

She is amazing.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:17 AM

28. I"m more concerned about CLinton's Revolving Image

if they manage to rig enough primaries and she gets the nom, we will see a 180 deg turn back to her right wing roots of epic whiplash proportions.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:22 AM

29. I'm guessing the comments on that article are a pretty good laugh

 

She has become such a prodigious liar that she can't even tell how ridiculous she sounds

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:31 AM

31. Positively mind blowing.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:34 AM

32. Coming from someone who has been evolving every day

Not supporting Trump but Hillary can't complain about evolving

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:05 AM

33. I see it somewhat differently

Her has been a consistent liar throughout her career. The fact that her lies have to change to match the circumstances does not change her true nature, an unrepentant cheat.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:04 PM

38. Some jokes just write themselves. n/t

 

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Response to lumberjack_jeff (Reply #38)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:12 PM

45. Right? I can't imagine Trump having anything to say about this...

...criticism.

Talk about setting yourself up for a takedown.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:09 PM

41. well she has personal experience with 'evolution in politics' doesn't she?

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:10 PM

42. I thought Hillary was also an "evolver" on issues.

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Response to Barack_America (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:29 PM

44. damn.. there goes another one....

 

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