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Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:06 PM

 

WATCH Hillary Shill-Bot Joy Reid Get Testy With Jeff Weaver As She Pushes The Clinton Talking-Points



Its beyond beyond obvious at what's going on with MSNBC Hosts.....The Shills have their marching orders......

Bernie Sanders Campaign Manager, Jeff Weaver, talks to MSNBC’s Joy Reid about Sanders continued fight for the nomination and Clinton’s pushing her stance on gun reform in recent weeks.

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Reply WATCH Hillary Shill-Bot Joy Reid Get Testy With Jeff Weaver As She Pushes The Clinton Talking-Points (Original post)
Segami Apr 2016 OP
Segami Apr 2016 #1
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #4
rhett o rick Apr 2016 #61
rhett o rick Apr 2016 #63
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #65
CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #60
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #2
CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #3
UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #5
grasswire Apr 2016 #7
FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #13
Segami Apr 2016 #15
grasswire Apr 2016 #6
azurnoir Apr 2016 #16
all american girl Apr 2016 #26
pdsimdars Apr 2016 #36
Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #55
pdsimdars Apr 2016 #66
uponit7771 Apr 2016 #8
rbrnmw Apr 2016 #9
apcalc Apr 2016 #10
mikehiggins Apr 2016 #11
bjo59 Apr 2016 #29
grasswire Apr 2016 #38
SidDithers Apr 2016 #12
Wilms Apr 2016 #27
Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #14
UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #20
Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #25
UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #49
Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #50
UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #52
Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #56
UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #58
Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #59
UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #62
forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #31
Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #34
forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #43
Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #45
redkwamya Apr 2016 #44
Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #46
pdsimdars Apr 2016 #37
Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #17
Segami Apr 2016 #19
Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #18
Agschmid Apr 2016 #54
jillan Apr 2016 #21
Beacool Apr 2016 #22
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #28
all american girl Apr 2016 #33
all american girl Apr 2016 #32
redkwamya Apr 2016 #47
grasswire Apr 2016 #40
Gregorian Apr 2016 #23
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #24
highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #30
redkwamya Apr 2016 #48
highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #67
floriduck Apr 2016 #35
grasswire Apr 2016 #41
pdsimdars Apr 2016 #39
grasswire Apr 2016 #42
kstewart33 Apr 2016 #51
Agschmid Apr 2016 #53
Gothmog Apr 2016 #57
Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #64

Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:07 PM

1. MSNBC is nothing more than a Shill-Fest Network...

 

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Response to Segami (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:10 PM

4. She's right though.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:17 PM

61. Not really.

 


Here are some important points made by Black Lives Matter Activist Ashley Williams:

“Here's the truth: the Clinton legacy has left our prisons bursting at the seams. Real lives have been destroyed as a result. It is an indisputable fact that millions of Black people were locked up for drug crimes and provided the bodies for the expansion of the prison industry.

The 1994 Crime Bill that she so vigorously defended not only expanded incarceration, but stripped funding for college education from prisoners. The Clinton legacy allowed for policies that prevented anyone convicted of a felony drug offense from receiving food stamps or income assistance. Clinton-led welfare reform fundamentally ripped apart the social safety net.”


“Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's efforts to push these policies resulted in the continued destruction of Black communities and the swift growth of our mass incarceration crisis.”

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:20 PM

63. Here is someone else that doesn't agree with Joy.

 

“Far from resisting the emergence of the new caste system, Clinton escalated the drug war beyond what conservatives had imagined possible a decade earlier. As the Justice Policy Institute has observed, “the Clinton Administration’s ‘tough on crime’ policies resulted in the largest increases in federal and state prison inmates of any president in American history.”99 Clinton eventually moved beyond crime and capitulated to the conservative racial agenda on welfare. This move, like his “get tough” rhetoric and policies, was part of a grand strategy articulated by the “new Democrats” to appeal to the elusive white swing voters. In so doing, Clinton—more than any other president—created the current racial undercaste. He signed the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, which “ended welfare as we know it,” replacing Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) with a block grant to states called Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF). TANF imposed a five-year lifetime limit on welfare assistance, as well as a permanent, lifetime ban on eligibility for welfare and food stamps for anyone convicted of a felony drug offense—including simple possession of marijuana.”
― Michelle Alexander, The New Jim Crow

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:27 PM

65. Joy Reid Is One Of The Biggest POS's on MSNBC! Total Effing SHILL FoR Hillary!

A HILLBOT of the FIRST order! No idea where they found her...

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Response to Segami (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:17 PM

60. Where The Fuck Did THEY Find Joy Reid? Before This Year I NEVER Heard of Her!

Constructed SHIILL No "Journalism" HERE!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:08 PM

2. Yeah everyone is out to get Bernie...

 

Its a huge conspiracy. Bernie should be handled with kid gloves.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:10 PM

3. I wonder which stage this one is in?

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:11 PM

5. Bravo Joy!!!!!

 

He had no idea what hit him. I particularly liked that he made him answer for HIS candidate on the 2005 vote on guns and the crime bill when he tried to avoid it and throw it on Hillary. Joy is great. Its already been shown that Hillary has way more negative press than Sanders but ANYONE not kissing Sanders ass is a shill or corporate shrew or whatever. Joy is very respected. I'm glad I follow her on twitter. She wasn't lying about his failure with Black voters either.

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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:16 PM

7. you seriously underestimate Weaver.

Seriously.

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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:29 PM

13. BROCKWURST!

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Response to FlatBaroque (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:31 PM

15. Served piping hot with a side order of steamed Brockalini

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:15 PM

6. why does Joy think it's her job to push Hillary?

And I am disappointed in her for her unprofessional garb. She's a news professional, not a Hollywood gossip reporter. Not on FOX. Dress like a professional, Joy.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:32 PM

16. she's been handling the campaign like a gossip reporter IMO

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Response to grasswire (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:51 PM

26. Playing back Weaver and Bernie's own words?

The guns are a big deal. He's been able to have it both ways, now his people are asking to explain. Why is that wrong?

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Response to all american girl (Reply #26)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:14 PM

36. Did you know that picture you use as an avatar will be used as evidence against Hillary

 

in her FBI case. All those pictures people find cute of her using her Blackberry in public places while she was S0S. Evidence of her communicating in public on an un-secured line. Naughty, naughty.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #36)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:53 PM

55. Awesome response!

 

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Response to Ned_Devine (Reply #55)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:34 PM

66. Someone on TV made that point. I thought it was brillaint.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:17 PM

8. Team Used Car (Devine Weaver) sales number are going to go down soon, no one trust them

... seeing their strategy was so dismissive of 2008

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:17 PM

9. Joy wasn't even trying to hear that nonsense

She wanted av straight answer which she didn't get.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:18 PM

10. I have always thought MSNBC

favored Sanders, especially Chris Matthews , who I feel has always been at best cool when it comes to Hillary.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:27 PM

11. Two points

Reed is just carrying water for her bosses, who are HRC supporters. What she is doing has nothing to do with journalism, or with trying to find the truth. Instead it is a bald faced attack on one of the candidates and being sure to show a Hillary ad in the process.

Is there anyone at all--including Reed--that really thinks the NRA is going to be a target once the election is over? The only candidate free to attack them would be someone not taking money from them or their lobbyists. Clinton will forget those dead children and dead black youths minutes after winning the election. There will be more important issues at hand, such as "reforming" and passing TPP.

Second point? They must be getting scared that Sanders is on to something, fighting on until the convention. Let's see where those polls about national regard go in the coming weeks. Lets see how HRC deals with being the least popular Democratic candidate.

Lets see how long it takes Joy and Chris and Maddow and Chris to become Sanders' BFF if he does get the nomination?

We all know they are secretly supporting Bernie, just unable to say the words out loud.

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Response to mikehiggins (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:54 PM

29. Absolutely agree with you on every one of your points.

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Response to mikehiggins (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:19 PM

38. I do not believe at this point they are secretly supporting Bernie.

They have sold out to their corporate overlords, who want Hillary simply because the story line will produce GREAT drama and profit. HRC, with all her baggage, against Donald. Clash of the titans.

If Hillary does not get the nom, the story will still be epic. Populist v. poseur. But it will be a shorter story. And Bernie won't bring glamour to Washington, or lavish entertaining, or K-street largesse.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:28 PM

12. Jeff Weaver is a clown...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:52 PM

27. Look again.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:31 PM

14. Blacks are not the base of the votes for the Democratic Party, they just have no where else to go

In the 2012 Presidential Election Obama got 36,000,000 non-hispanic white votes and only 16,000,000 black votes. In fact, in 2012, more non-hispanic white voters voted for Obama than all PoC (blacks, latino/hispanic, asian) combined (36,000,000 vs. 32,000,00).

Thus, whites are the base of the votes for the Democratic Party, at least according to the 2012 Presidential Election results.

This myth that the "blacks are the base of the party" is false.

What is true is that blacks have no where else to turn. Given this, Romney only received 1,000,000 black votes in 2012 by comparison. Though this is relatively few (16:1 ratio), it's still a million more than I would expect.

Here's the link with the numbers:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/26/demographics_and_the_2016_election_scenarios.html

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:39 PM

20. In terms of overall numbers no. In terms of most reliable voting bloc, yes!

 

Blacks are the most loyal voting block to the Democratic Party. Latinos/Hispanics are more split, although they have been trending more Democrat ever since Republicans have gone bat shit crazy. Black women in particular are a very reliable voting block for Dems. So we may not be the base in terms of raw numbers but in terms of overall representation by any demographic we are the most reliable and most loyal.

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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:50 PM

25. Loyalty does not mean or equal base. I am tired of the lie.

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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #49)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:43 PM

50. 36,000,000 > 16,000,000 Hello!!!

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #50)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:45 PM

52. YES HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!

 

In politics, the term base refers to a group of voters who almost always support a single party's candidates for elected office. Base voters are very unlikely to vote for the candidate of an opposing party, regardless of the specific views each candidate holds.

You are twisting what base means in politics. Ugh...bye Felicia!!!

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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #52)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:04 PM

56. You are confusing loyalty with a base of voters...

36,000,000 or 16,000,000....

Which is more?

Go ahead, you can say it.

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #56)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:11 PM

58. Actually the loyalty and base go hand in hand

 

In terms of numbers yes...most Democrats are White. But the base of the party to me is not White since most Whites vote Republican. So I think we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #58)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:14 PM

59. Well if you need to cling to your illusions to feel better have at it.

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #59)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:19 PM

62. I don't need to cling to shit nt

 

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:55 PM

31. wow what the fuck

 

and you wonder why Bernie is losing the black vote 80-20.

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Response to forjusticethunders (Reply #31)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:57 PM

34. I am sorry if you don't like reality but math matters.

And the reason blacks go for Clinton have nothing to do with what we do or don't say on DU.

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #34)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:23 PM

43. how deep are you guys going to dig -nt-

 

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Response to forjusticethunders (Reply #43)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:25 PM

45. The primary is over for the most part. So my question to you is...

Why do you not like numbers?

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #34)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:25 PM

44. I think that you are missing what the word "base" means

Its the foundation of the Democratic party, because that is where you start. On a sports team its the first names that you write on the lineup every game. There will not be an election soon where Democrats say, well we really need to shore up the black vote. Less reliable voters gave us Presidents like Reagan and Bush.

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Response to redkwamya (Reply #44)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:26 PM

46. 36,000,000 > 16,000,000

Hence, the base is white.

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Response to forjusticethunders (Reply #31)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:15 PM

37. There are uninformed voters of every race and color.

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:33 PM

17. I love the way they flashed the delegate numbers that included the superdelgates

MSNBC is Clinton Superpac

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Response to Sky Masterson (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:39 PM

19. The shill had everything working as planned....

 

...she also pulled out a lonely NBC poll graphic showing Bernie and Hillary tied against Trump....while a majority of other major polls has Bernie well ahead of Hillary.....of course Joy NEVER referenced any of those polls.


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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:34 PM

18. As much as I love Bernie and hate Hillary, I really don't think he should try to flip supers...

if he is behind in the popular or pledged delegate count.

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Response to Bread and Circus (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:50 PM

54. +1

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:41 PM

21. Why do Hillary supporters always ignore democrat leaning independents? They are a YUGE voting bloc.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:42 PM

22. Weaver is delusional if he thinks that super delegates are going to switch to Sanders.

They are already in Hillary's camp, they will not switch to the candidate who is behind in pledged delegates. Does he really believe the nonsense he spews or is his goal to keep Sanders' supporters energized and keep the money flowing into the campaign coffers?

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Response to Beacool (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:52 PM

28. People change their minds. It's delusional to pull the plug before they actually vote.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:56 PM

33. It's a two person race and the supers traditionally go for the one in the lead

Do you think it's OK to override the will of the people? I'm thinking that won't go over very well.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:55 PM

32. I just don't get any of this....

This is all crazy talk and this thread is just as strange. I'm not sure what Joy did that was wrong.

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Response to all american girl (Reply #32)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:26 PM

47. Joy did a great job as usual

Always professional and direct.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:20 PM

40. that's not an absolute.

There are circumstances under which they would switch.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:50 PM

23. Notice the user comments are disabled.

Here's why that matters: Aside from what is unfair framing of the question, while he was answering, they put incorrect numbers over his face. So they completely obscured him with lies. I attempted to reply, and was unable.

The whole point of democracy (like youtube) is to have a feedback mechanism so that the overall system has controls. When you remove the feedback loop (comment disabling), you are no longer democratic.

I'm learning so much from Jeff and Bernie. The one thing that sticks out is patience.

Haha. "She's winning the demographic which represents the Democratic party"- That is so pathetic and ignorant. Arguably, it's true. Realistically, it's as wrong as how right the Democratic party has shifted. So no, she is winning a demographic which more represents republicans from a time before they became rabid insurgents.

When the media is so biased that they literally hound their guest, it is no longer considered journalism. This is pure propaganda.

So I just wasted ten minutes of my life.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:50 PM

24. She tried to fence him in and failed

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:54 PM

30. Quit the shilling, and start the chilling. We aren't going anywhere as a voice, and if you shut us

 

down, it's just going to be worse.

Let it all play out, my friend, because we still got California, and that COULD be a game changer. And not only California, but anybody else who wants to join in beforehand!

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Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #30)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:29 PM

48. Please explain how this will happen (California being a game changer).

Even if Hillary lost all the remaining contests, she would still be ahead in delegates (pledged, super or extraterrestrial). This is the plain information. No one want to shut you down, we just want to have a reasonable discussion about how we can work towards those things that will make the next four years as productive as possible.

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Response to redkwamya (Reply #48)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:40 PM

67. Well, take a look at this chart, and tell me there are not 400 plus delegates in CA without includin

 

superdelegates. I'm no saying Hillary would lose all 400, but taking your reasoning, if she did?

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2016/Info/delegates.html

I mean, are you doing your calculations including superdelegates? Because truly, they do not vote till the convention, and a lot can happen still before then.

You know, the MSM acts like it is still such a horse race on the Republican side. Why don't they do that on the Democratic side, when the difference between Hillary and Bernie is less?

Could it be the Progpaganda?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:06 PM

35. That was a sci-fi thriller with Robbie Mook taking over Jow Reid's body.

 

"Invasion of the Neoliberal Snatchers".

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Response to floriduck (Reply #35)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:21 PM

41. haha! nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:20 PM

39. I wish they'd bring up the money the gun industry has given to Hillary.

 

Wouldn't that put a bit of a cork in it??

They keep letting them frame the conversation. Just say that Bernie has taken no money from the gun lobby and Hillary has taken MILLIONS. Who you gunna trust?

That's a lot easier and quicker than trying to explain how bills work. AND you make a point before they can but in to stop you.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #39)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:22 PM

42. good point

sometimes I think the campaign needs a framer.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:45 PM

51. I thought she did a bang-up job.

She didn't read through her list of prepared questions. Instead, she actually listened to Weaver and asked questions based on what he actually said. Weaver didn't come off particularly well, but Reid was respectful.

She's grown a lot on MSNBC. Good to see it.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:49 PM

53. ...

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:05 PM

57. Joy Reid did a great job of getting Weaver to answer the questions asked

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:21 PM

64. MSNBC is garbage.

 

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