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Bernie Sanders Takes Election by Exposing Fraud, No Support for Bogus Hillary "Win' (Original Post) Gregorian Apr 2016 OP
Captain Insano is back. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #1
Imagine an Avengers style team up of HA, Seth and the Sane Progressive Godhumor Apr 2016 #2
Do we live in a Banana Republic or not? If we don't have valid voting process, we live in a Banana Skwmom Apr 2016 #3
A couple of the primaries really screwed up. Really badly. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #4
It's not insane at all Time for change Apr 2016 #36
She sounds excited, but quite reasonable. reformist2 Apr 2016 #5
We differ. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #6
She IS SPOT ON! The Rigging Was SYSTEMIC! BIG DEM WHEELS IN CHARGE! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #22
The Sane Progressive is missing an In before Sane. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #10
.. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #11
Official version DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #16
Debbie IS SPOT ON! DEMOCRATIC PARTY SYSTEMIC ELECTION FRAUD IN FULL ON HILLAR MODE! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #24
We don't need your vote. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #25
1st reply = 1 extra BrockBuck FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #14
How is this different than Kerry's refusal to contest Ohio? In my bbgrunt Apr 2016 #7
Agreed Joob Apr 2016 #9
When you live in Oligarchy all things are possible nolabels Apr 2016 #17
well I'm afraid this "human thing" that you speak of must be bbgrunt Apr 2016 #20
This is why Bernie is a person i don't hesitate listening to and following whenever possible. nolabels Apr 2016 #21
me too and I expect he has some alien genes, but this election fraud shit must be pursued. bbgrunt Apr 2016 #31
Yep. when I want hard-hitting news, I turn to some random woman with a selfie stick Tarc Apr 2016 #8
LOL! Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #12
I am listening to it now. I wish I was high. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #13
LOL, yeah when I see that face I just think 'wacko' now Dem2 Apr 2016 #15
Very strong and excellent speech Time for change Apr 2016 #18
perhaps he's relying on the news to filter out on its own while gunning for CA MisterP Apr 2016 #27
Could be Time for change Apr 2016 #34
He has to win everything except Maryland and DC in order to get even in delegates, Time for change Apr 2016 #35
bernie has to pick his battles/do not stop donating to him questionseverything Apr 2016 #28
What good is their evidence if the election officials are dismissing the whole thing Time for change Apr 2016 #33
we have to go past the election officials to a judge questionseverything Apr 2016 #37
I'm hoping, but I think that there are too many powerful people in on this Time for change Apr 2016 #38
I wonder if the Sanders campaign will respond pdsimdars Apr 2016 #19
K & R AzDar Apr 2016 #23
And Heeere's DEBBIE. MineralMan Apr 2016 #26
interested in your reaction to this questionseverything Apr 2016 #32
Isn't it amazing that Sanders hasn't challenged the outcome of a single State... brooklynite Apr 2016 #29
Every major candidate has had nut jobs who support them. Beacool Apr 2016 #30

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
2. Imagine an Avengers style team up of HA, Seth and the Sane Progressive
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

It would be a blackhole of delusional stupidity.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
3. Do we live in a Banana Republic or not? If we don't have valid voting process, we live in a Banana
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:50 PM
Apr 2016

Republic.
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
4. A couple of the primaries really screwed up. Really badly.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

Translating that into an advantage for HRC is completely and totally insane.

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
36. It's not insane at all
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:46 PM
Apr 2016

There is massive evidence that this election is being stolen. There are substantial exit poll discrepancies in every state where I could find an exit poll, plus massive voter purging that is targeted at Bernie. In NY the exit poll discrepancy was 12%. That is huge, and well beyond the margin of error. In a country with a decent election system that alone would be sufficient to do a total hand recount of the entire state. Not here.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
24. Debbie IS SPOT ON! DEMOCRATIC PARTY SYSTEMIC ELECTION FRAUD IN FULL ON HILLAR MODE!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:48 PM
Apr 2016

Yeah... we'll vote for Hillary in a General Election... Really...

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
7. How is this different than Kerry's refusal to contest Ohio? In my
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016

mind, it's not. There is no point if these issues are not addressed to the fullest extent possible.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
17. When you live in Oligarchy all things are possible
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:29 PM
Apr 2016

The only reason rigid exceptionalism is held on so tightly to is that because true nature holds there are actually no absolute truisms, everything and anything could and sometimes does break the rule, or least to what was thought to be a rule about what is and what is not.

It's a cruel hoax many do not recognize, but has an adage as old as the hills 'with every rule there are exceptions'. That is of course if you are not writing the rules. Their rule of those writing the laws and rules, is that all gold and everything else is ours and their are no exceptions.

The question to ask is why do you trust any foisted up leader to do the right thing rather than just to do that human thing?

Kerry did not challenge because he was more comfortable knowing what he did know rather than embracing what he did not know. He was afraid and went with his comfort. The difference between an old Kerry and a young Kerry was quite a bit as we learned

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
20. well I'm afraid this "human thing" that you speak of must be
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:09 PM
Apr 2016

challenged or else we are doomed. I guess I'm hoping for our alien overlords to supply us with the appropriate genetic mutation to over-ride that general defect. And yet I think, despite my poor acquaintance with history, there are (a few) examples of some who managed to be an exception to being slaves to the human thing. But what do I know--maybe they were the aliens.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
21. This is why Bernie is a person i don't hesitate listening to and following whenever possible.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016

The guy walks the walk and has done it all his life.

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
18. Very strong and excellent speech
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:53 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe she was too hard on Bernie for not contesting the election fraud. My respect for Bernie is so great that I don't want to accept her interpretation of his failure to contest the election fraud.

Maybe Bernie feels that if he contested it, it would take away from the main message he's trying to get out. Maybe he's unaware of the extent of the election fraud being perpetrated against him. Maybe he's in denial about it. He's not perfect, as nobody is.

I can believe that he's making the wrong decision by not contesting the election fraud -- and I do believe that is the wrong decision -- without losing respect for what he's done.

But I also tend to think she's right that we should refuse to donate any more to his campaign until he gets behind the efforts to contest the election fraud. In NY there was a 12 point discrepancy between the exit polls and the official results. That is off the map. And that is in addition to all the voter suppression, which would not even show up in the exit polls because those people didn't vote and people who don't vote are not polled in exit polls. In a fair election he would have won NY by a substantial amount. But he has no chance of winning the nomination if such election fraud is allowed to stand. He really should get behind the effort to do something about it IMO.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
27. perhaps he's relying on the news to filter out on its own while gunning for CA
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:52 PM
Apr 2016

inverting how Clinton relied on the caging being done by someobody else that'd take the fall for her (Purcell, Haslett-Rudiano)

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
34. Could be
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:49 PM
Apr 2016

Or maybe he'll be able to justify an independent candidacy if polling shows that he would likely win in a three way race.

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
35. He has to win everything except Maryland and DC in order to get even in delegates,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:52 PM
Apr 2016

and in CA he has to win by a large margin. As long as fraud continues to be perpetrated as it has been, and all the existing fraud is allowed to stand, there is no chance of that happening.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
28. bernie has to pick his battles/do not stop donating to him
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:53 PM
Apr 2016

activists in chicago have evidence the boe is falsifying the 5% required audit

we need to support them

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511809605

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
33. What good is their evidence if the election officials are dismissing the whole thing
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:48 PM
Apr 2016

as noted in the title of the article you provided in your link?

I don't know the process, but clearly some sort of legal action must be taken in order to have any impact.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
37. we have to go past the election officials to a judge
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:48 PM
Apr 2016

sue for prospective relief

if this evidence would of come in time for bernie to contest illinois i would be all for that but that deadline is over

if we get the evidence in the general populations view maybe by the next big steal we can catch them in a timely manner

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
38. I'm hoping, but I think that there are too many powerful people in on this
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:46 PM
Apr 2016

This will have to be fought very aggressively in order to see any results. Bernie has to campaign, but he needs some of his legal staff to push this very aggressively, IMO.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
19. I wonder if the Sanders campaign will respond
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

I sent them a like to this video.

I liked it. Good work. Thanks.


questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
32. interested in your reaction to this
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:56 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511809605

even if you don't watch it all, look at the 1:17 min mark

the activist says he has evidence to back his claims that the "audit" is falsified

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
29. Isn't it amazing that Sanders hasn't challenged the outcome of a single State...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:54 PM
Apr 2016

...except for AArizone where he joined a suit filed by the "hated" DNC and Clinton campaign?

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