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Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:46 AM

 

Bring it on Obama! Hillary lied to you!

The correspondence between Secretary Hillary Clinton and Sidney Blumenthal. [View all]
The purpose of this article is to shed a spotlight on the email correspondence between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Sidney Blumenthal, a civilian, during her tenure as Secretary of State. Using https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/ and the search terms "Blumenthal confidential", 562 results appeared (this report lists only emails from the first 301 results). While, all the emails are marked "unclassified" they are also marked "confidential" and ostensibly paint a picture of utilizing Sidney Blumenthal as an intelligence source on various state matters.

This is problematic because while the emails were not classified, they show possible damning evidence of corresponding with Mr. Blumenthal, who was then employed by the Clinton Foundation, not the state department, and was not given proper security clearance to pass along sensitive intelligence to Secretary Clinton. In turn, he did not email her without response, she responded regarding these highly sensitive matters. Since, their correspondence is extensive, some emails will be referenced, that were and were not retroactively classified, to highlight her possible violation of state security rules.

Sidney Blumenthal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Blumenthal):
Relationship to Secretary of State Clinton:

"After her January 2009 appointment as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton wanted to hire Blumenthal. However, Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, blocked his selection due to lingering anger among President Barack Obama's aides over Blumenthal's role in promoting negative stories about Obama during the Democratic primary. According to a report in the New York Times, "Emanuel talked with Mrs. Clinton ... and explained that bringing Mr. Blumenthal on board was a no-go. The bad blood among his colleagues was too deep, and the last thing the administration needed, he concluded, was dissension and drama in the ranks. In short, Mr. Blumenthal was out.

Blumenthal, a longtime confidant of Bill and Hillary Clinton, earned about $10,000 a month as a full-time employee of the Clinton Foundation. During the 2011 uprising in Libya against Muammar Gaddafi, Blumenthal prepared, from public and other sources, about 25 memos which he sent as emails to Clinton in 2011 and 2012, which she shared through her aide, Jake Sullivan, with senior State Department personnel...


The House Select Committee on Benghazi, headed by Representative Trey Gowdy (R-SC) served a subpoena on Blumenthal on May 19, 2015 for a deposition to be held on June 3, according to Reuters. Blumenthal's name came up during the October 22, 2015 full committee public questioning of Hillary Clinton regarding the Benghazi incident, as one of the alleged sources of Hillary Clinton's intelligence. During this hearing Democratic members asked that Blumenthal's deposition transcript be made public so that comments regarding his involvement could be placed in context. The motion was defeated by a voice vote, followed by a roll call vote along party lines."



Retroactively Classified emails between Secretary Clinton and Sidney Blumenthal and an explanation of the specific security codes cited as reason for retro-classification:

Emails completely blank or partly erased due to retro-classification.
See this website for classification procedure per "Executive Order 13526 - Classified National Security Information" (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information).

Sec. 1.6. Identification and Markings. (a) At the time of original classification, the following shall be indicated in a manner that is immediately apparent: (1) one of the three classification levels defined in section 1.2 of this order (the 3rd pertains to documents marked "Confidential".


Sec. 1.2. Classification Levels. (a) Information may be classified at one of the following three levels:

(1) "Top Secret" shall be applied to information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security that the original classification authority is able to identify or describe.
(2) "Secret" shall be applied to information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause serious damage to the national security that the original classification authority is able to identify or describe.
(3) "Confidential" shall be applied to information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause damage to the national security that the original classification authority is able to identify or describe.



Sec. 1.4. Classification Categories. Information shall not be considered for classification unless its unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause identifiable or describable damage to the national security in accordance with section 1.2 of this order, and it pertains to one or more of the following:

(a) military plans, weapons systems, or operations;
(b) foreign government information;
(c) intelligence activities (including covert action), intelligence sources or methods, or cryptology;
(d) foreign relations or foreign activities of the United States, including confidential sources;
(e) scientific, technological, or economic matters relating to the national security;
(f) United States Government programs for safeguarding nuclear materials or facilities;
(g) vulnerabilities or capabilities of systems, installations, infrastructures, projects, plans, or protection services relating to the national security; or
(h) the development, production, or use of weapons of mass destruction.


1. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/16223
RELEASE IN PART B4,1.4(B),B1,1.4(D),B6
From: Hillary Clinton
To: Sidney Blumenthal
Date: 2009-11-10 01:18
Subject: FWD: FROM JOE WILSON
"Berlin was terrific. Lots of good exchanges w leaders. Have you heard anything else? 1.4(B) 1.4(D)"

2. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/26180
RELEASE IN PART B1,1.4(D),B6
From: Sidney Blumenthal
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2009-07-14 04:18
Subject: IMPORTANT. NOT FOR CIRCULATION. YOU ONLY. SID
Re: Moscow Summit/Germany/UK

"1. I have heard authoritatively from Bill Drozdiak, who is in Berlin and has just met with

1.4(D) B1

This is the third message I have received from sources about the disastrous nature of the Obama trip. Drozdiak also says that the US is totally out of the loop in Berlin--no ambassador, no DCM and a political counselor who has just arrived. The Germans have nobody to talk to and they don't expect to deal seriously with Obama's ambassadorial appointment. We should expect that the Germans and Russians will now cut their own separate deals on energy, regional security, etc., and those deals will reflect narrow, parochial economic and political needs indifferent to whether or not we deem them to be in the broader interest of the Western alliance."

3. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11467
Reason: 1.4(d)
Subject: Blank
"Sources with access to the highest levels of the governments and institutions discussed below. This includes."

4. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11644
Subject: BAHRAIN, IRANIAN INTELLIGENCE
Reason: 1.4(d)

5. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11789
Subject: H: INTERIM LIBYAN COMMITTEE IN FORMATION. SID
Partly Classified, Reason: 1.4(d)
"Some names of key people in interim governmental committee provided by former adviser to 1.4(D) B1 Qaddafi, now in exile, provided to Cody. (Cody has helped his son get jobs, etc.) Some names are obvious; some other interesting detail. May prove accurate and useful."

6. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11869
Subject: MEMO FROM SHAUN WOODWARD ON LATEST NI DEVELOPMENTS. SID
Reason: 1.4(b) + 1.4(d)

7. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11896
Subject: LATEST/N. IRELAND
Reason 1.4(d)

8. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/20931
Reason: B1,1.4(B),1.4(D ),B6
From: Hillary Clinton
To: Sidney Blumenthal
Date: 2010-03-05 23:12
Subject: H: VERY, VERY LATEST ON NI. IMPORTANT INFOR. SID (NI = Northern Ireland)


Emails marked CONFIDENTIAL, unclassified on 01/07/2016, and released in part and/or full:

1. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12560
From: Hillary Clinton
To: Sidney Blumenthal
Date: 2011-10-20 02:32 pm
Subject: H: URGENT INTEL POST-Q, INTERNAL NTC POLITICS. SID

"Thx again."

October 20, 2011
For: Hillary
From: Sid
2011-10-20 12:23pm
Re: Libya post-Q, internal politics NTC

"SOURCE: Sources with direct access to the Libyan National Transitional Council, as well as the highest levels of European Governments, and Western Intelligence and security services."

2. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/13013
May 2, 2011
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Bin Laden, AQ & Libya

"Latest report: During the early morning of May 2, 2011 sources with access to the leadership of the Libyan rebellion's ruling Transitional National Council (TNC) stated in confidence that they are concerned that the death of al Qa'ida leader Osama Bin Laden will inspire al Qa'ida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) to use weapons they have obtained, which were originally intended for the rebels in Libya, to retaliate against the United States and its allies for this attack in Pakistan."

3. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12171
For: Hillary
From: Sid
July 24, 2012
Subject: Re: Syria, Turkey, Israel, Iran

"SOURCE: Sources with access to the highest levels of the Governments and institutions discussed below. This includes political parties and regional intelligence and security services. 1. According to an individual with access to the highest levels of major European governments, the intelligence services of these countries are reporting to their principals that the commanders of the Israeli military and intelligence community believe that the civil war in Syria is spreading to neighboring countries, including Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey . These European officials are concerned that the ongoing conflict in Syria will lead to uprisings in these countries that will bring increasingly conservative Islamic regimes into power, replacing existing secular or moderate regimes. This individual adds that, Israeli security officials believe that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is convinced that these developments will leave them vulnerable, with only enemies on their borders."

4. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/437
February 17, 2010
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Iran, Saudi

"Had dinner last night (Tuesday, February 16) with Joschka Fischer. We had an interesting conversation on Iran and Saudi Arabia, among other things. (As you know Fischer is now director of the Nabucco pipeline project.) On Iran, harsh, targeted sanctions are absolutely necessary, but are most effective diplomatically when always coupled with an offer to negotiate.

The iron fist in the velvet glove approach achieves several objectives: According to Fischer's intelligence, Ahmanijehad wished some negotiated settlement but was blocked. The regime has splits at the top. Perhaps true, perhaps not. But constantly pushing negotiations alongside sanctions puts additional pressure on internal divisions, whatever they are. Extending an open hand while brandishing a stick closes diplomatic and political room to maneuver for Iran. Its refusal to accept the open hand justifies application of the stick. Even when sanctions are enforced it always remains useful to say another way is open. The damage done to Iran is therefore the result of its own choice. This approach also aids the opposition. A purely condign
sanctions strategy can contribute to the regime's will to punish and tighten repression. Talking of regime change, of course, undermines the cause of regime change. It is a gift to the regime. The opposition is a new factor in the Iran equation that must be taken into account on the political and moral level. Pushed to the wall, the regime may feel compelled to repress, which might involve thousands or tens of thousands of political killings. On Saudi Arabia, Fischer points out
that if Iran develops nuclear weaponry the Saudis already have their own bomb. The Saudis invested in Pakistan's nuclear weaponry partly for this eventuality; that's their bomb in reserve."

5. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12181
For: Hillary
From: Sid
July 14, 2012
Re; Egypt internal politics

"SOURCE: Sources with access to the highest levels of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, and Western Intelligence and security services. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION COMES FROM AN EXTREMELY SENSITIVE SOURCE AND SHOULD BE HANDLED WITH CARE."

5. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12198
For: Hillary
From: Sid
June 6, 2012
Re: Libya Latest

"SOURCE: Sources with direct access to the Libyan National Transitional Council, as well as the highest levels of European Governments, and Western Intelligence and security services."

6. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12389
September 14, 2012
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Morsi's private conversations & coordination with Magariaf

"SOURCE: Sources with direct access to the Libyan National Transitional Council, as well as the highest levels of European governments, and Western Intelligence and security services."

7. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12376
October 3, 2012
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Turkey v. Syria (plus Iran)

"SOURCE: Sources with access to the highest levels of the Governments and institutions discussed below. This includes political parties and regional intelligence and security services.

On October 2 and 3, 2012, Turkish and Syrian forces exchanged fire across their border near the Turkish town of Akcakale; several Turkish civilians (including children) were killed, while Syrian casualties are not yet known.."

8. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3758
January 30, 2010
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: NI breakthrough

Shaun Woodward then Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, Mr. Blumenthal acted as a liaison to Secretary Clinton.

"Shaun has just called me—about 9 p.m. EST. He says it is very likely that an agreement will be announced on Monday. The parties have reached agreement tonight. Shaun will call you on Sunday to brief. Gordon will fly into Belfast on Monday for a ceremony if all goes according to plan now. He will mention your role. You should be prepared to speak to the parties before the event and issue a statement. Hope it doesn't come unraveled over the next 36 hours."

9. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/6551
March 27, 2011
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Lots of new intel; Libyan army possibly on verge of collapse

"...Source Comment: Speaking in strict confidence, one rebel commander stated that his troops continue to summarily execute all foreign mercenaries captured in the fighting..."

10. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12566
From: Hillary Clinton
To: Sidney Blumenthal
Date: 2011-09-17 07:57
Subject: H: INTEL: ALLIES IN LIBYA/OIL. SID

"Thx. I'll try to check in w you this week."

September 16, 2011 1:32pm
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: France, UK, et al, jockeying in Libya/oil

"During mid-September 2011 French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister David Cameron traveled to Tripoli to meet with and express support for the leaders of the new government of Libya under the National Transitional Council (NTC). According to knowledgeable individuals, as part of this effort, the two leaders, in private conversations, also intend to press the leaders of the NTC to reward their early support for the rebellion against Muammar al Qaddafi. Sarkozy and Cameron expect this recognition to be tangible, in the form of favorable contracts for French and British energy companies looking to play a major role in the Libyan oil industry."

Email regarding Wikileaks itself: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/1036

November 29, 2010
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Wikileaks

"The Wikileaks documents can be cast as reflecting a positive light on the U.S. government and diplomacy. Your statement about how the documents underscored the Iranian nuclear threat is headed in the right direction.

1. The Wikileaks disclosure is the opposite of the Pentagon Papers. The Pentagon Papers provided evidence from an internal study conducted by the Department of Defense that the U.S. administration was not telling the truth about the Vietnam War. On the contrary, the Wikileaks papers prove that the U.S. government today has been telling the truth about the threats we face in the world.

2. The Wikileaks papers prove that American diplomats are hard at work at the difficult, often frustrating job of protecting and advancing our interests in the world. These documents are testimony to the diligence, intelligence and clear mindedness of our diplomats. Our diplomats are doing their work on the frontline of national security."


These two emails pertains directly to the Petraeus Scandal, which relates to the ongoing FBI investigation, though they are looking into 30,000 emails not publicly released (those released are still of considerable impact):

1: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12339
From: Sidney Blumenthal
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2012-11-12 12:05pm
Subject: H: PETRAEUS. SID

"My operative theory on Petraeus scandal is that it became an October Surprise that failed. Forcing the scandal public and his resignation would have been the trifecta--leaks, Benghazi, then Petraeus-- allowing Romney to argue that Obama had created a national security collapse. It would have overtaken the end of the campaign.
My thought is that Leahy should be in this now and that Feinstein should be made aware, if she is not already, of the October Surprise scenario.

2: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12340
From: Sidney Blumenthal
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:51 AM
To: H
Subject: H: Here it is, what did Eric Cantor know and when did he know it. Sid

"...The F.B.I. investigators were not pursuing evidence of Mr. Petraeus's marital infidelity, which would not be a criminal matter, the official said. But their examination of his e-mails, most or all of them sent from a personal account and not from his C.I.A. account, raised the possibility of security breaches that needed to be addressed directly with him. 'Alarms went off on larger security issues,'' the official said.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/usgbi-said-to-have-stumbled-into-news-of-david-petraeus- affair.html?pagewanted=all)



Secretary Hillary Clinton's statements regarding her emails:
1. "I fully complied with every rule I was governed by."
2. "I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material."
3. "I opted for convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed by the State Department, because I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal emails instead of two," she said. "Looking back, it would have been better if I'd simply used a second email account and carried a second phone, but at the time, this didn't seem like an issue."

Secretary Clinton's Statements Links:
1: http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_27689239/hillary-clinton-emails-fact-checking-her-statement
2: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-press-conference/index.html

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Reply Bring it on Obama! Hillary lied to you! (Original post)
ViseGrip Apr 2016 OP
ViseGrip Apr 2016 #1
Punkingal Apr 2016 #5
trumad Apr 2016 #2
Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #7
pdsimdars Apr 2016 #21
Tarc Apr 2016 #3
nolawarlock Apr 2016 #23
BillZBubb Apr 2016 #4
karynnj Apr 2016 #8
NWCorona Apr 2016 #13
Recursion Apr 2016 #6
karynnj Apr 2016 #10
SDJay Apr 2016 #9
BillZBubb Apr 2016 #11
SDJay Apr 2016 #14
auntpurl Apr 2016 #12
Sunlei Apr 2016 #16
auntpurl Apr 2016 #19
ViseGrip Apr 2016 #27
Sunlei Apr 2016 #15
ViseGrip Apr 2016 #28
Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #17
amborin Apr 2016 #18
ViseGrip Apr 2016 #30
frylock Apr 2016 #20
pdsimdars Apr 2016 #22
think Apr 2016 #25
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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:48 AM

1. I reposted PantonFire's post here, it's put together so well, anyone can

 

see the betrayal to the President and to the citizens of the U.S.
She belongs in jail. I don't think that will happen. But she surely should not be the next president.

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:58 AM

5. I don't understand how President Obama can tolerate her.

She did not treat him with respect, in fact, was probably undermining him all along.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:48 AM

2. This is a dupe thread---but with a flame headline.

 

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Response to trumad (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:00 AM

7. I doubt you read it. Clearly, 'Sid' was not an employee of the

state department yet was discussing international matters in his email exchanges. How much more simple does it have to be for you to understand that FACT?

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Response to trumad (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:32 PM

21. "dupe thread" = = = and here you are. Just sayin'

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:52 AM

3. The words have been spoken...thus he is summoned...so be it...the Indictment Fairy

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Response to Tarc (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:43 PM

23. OMG! hahahahahahahahahhahahahaahha

That made my day.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:57 AM

4. Obama has made it clear he's not going to do anything about this.

He's given Hillary a pass.

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Response to BillZBubb (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:09 AM

8. It is not his place to do anything on this as a legal issue -- not for and not against HRC

He is clear that he is not putting himself in the position where he is giving HRC a pass.

What he is not doing is speaking against her for this or anything else. There is a very good reason for that. She reported to him and he either did not see this in real time or he allowed it to continue rather than have to deal with a cataclysmic rupture of his administration and the Democratic party. This entire thing reflects badly on him.

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Response to BillZBubb (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:27 AM

13. I see it differently

He will issue a pardon if it even comes to that but he won't stop the DOJ.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:58 AM

6. When did intelligence *sources* start needing clearances?

That's a new one...

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Response to Recursion (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:11 AM

10. For PRIMARY sources I get your point, but if he is getting clearly classified information

from various people, presumably with clearances and passing the information to Clinton, who of course had a clearance -- both the people giving him information and HRC getting it should have questioned if he had clearance.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:11 AM

9. A Great OP, But

this whole notion of a forthcoming indictment needs to stop. If President Obama let Dubya and Darth Cheney walk away unscathed, there's no way he's going to allow his DOJ to come after Hillary.

Instead, this issue is going to:

a. Become mud that's flung at HRC pretty much constantly during the GE, and if she wins
b. It'll become the first of an endless string of 'investigative hearings' against President Clinton, any of which could lead to impeachment talk and hearings.

That's what we're in for for at least four years. It's still better than the alternative, but that's where all of this is going to go.

I think Bernie showed a lot of class by leaving this alone, but in some ways I wonder if he should've hammered away at this during the primary to both get it out there before the GE and to take her candidacy down now as opposed to during the GE.

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Response to SDJay (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:23 AM

11. I agree with everything you've said except one thing.

For the shit to really hit the fan an indictment is not necessary. If the FBI RECOMMENDS an indictment, that will be the key moment. No matter what Obama chooses to do at that point, it's GAME OVER.

Hillary is already in trouble with independent voters. Having the FBI recommend that she be prosecuted will drive them away almost entirely, indictment or not. The Hillary campaign will not be able to sell it as a partisan attack.

Even if the FBI doesn't recommend action, the emails give the republicans a treasure trove of avenues to keep a Clinton administration tied up in investigations for four years or more. I suspect the State Department/Clinton Foundation interactions will be the most serious.

And yes, Bernie should have been talking about this. He's been way too nice.

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Response to BillZBubb (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:54 AM

14. I Agree. An Indictment Isn't Necessary

as this is already, as you said, a treasure trove of material to use in the GE in addition to the DECADES of garbage they're going to throw at her for months on a daily or even hourly basis. Even if nothing else happens, the stage has been set.

That's why I sorta laugh when I see HRC, one of her mucky mucks with the campaign or some of her more ardent supporters complaining about how 'nasty' the SBS campaign has been. They can't be serious. His campaign is literally going to seem like a spa day compared to the pack of jackals that will be tearing away at her entire candidacy in an absolutely relentless, shameless and in some ways reckless manner. It's going to be so, so ugly. They haven't seen anything yet.

That's one of the things that I actually appreciated about the HRC campaign in 08. It was dirty enough that when Obama moved into the GE dealing with the scummy repuke machine wasn't that big of a shock. HRC supporters, if they really think SBS has been 'mean' in the primary, are in for an astounding shock in a few months when all these years of hate towards the Clintons is unleashed with a fury.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:25 AM

12. Obama will enthusiastically endorse Hillary and campaign for her

Can't wait to see him on the campaign trail!

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Response to auntpurl (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:19 AM

16. He won't be on the campaign trail though I'm positive he will endorse our primary nomination.

Obama's working hard to finish up a lot of work before he's free of the big chair.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:39 AM

19. I guarantee you he'll campaign.

It's been a long time since we had a sitting president we could wheel out for campaigning. Why would they leave their biggest gun in the shed? Obama is a loyal Democrat and will campaign.

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Response to auntpurl (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:04 PM

27. He knows she will lose, and that'll be her payback for 2008. They have not forgotten.

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:14 AM

15. "Blumenthal prepared, from public and other sources, about 25 memos". probably chat about that video

mocking Islam, sub-titled put on youtube and sent to the internet Imam. Sent two days before 9-11 anniversary date.

Imam who then called for global protests and attacks on all American consular buildings. Whoever did that video wanted 9/11 anniversary to be violent, protests over that American made b-grade 'movie' gave cover & aided the attackers who killed our diplomat.

Blumenthal probably had more detail of who made/subtitled and funded that b-grade movie in those emails he sent to his 'friend'

That's my 'guess' of why those few 'emails' were classified years later during the review for release.

And Obama doesn't have to hire everyone recommended to him by Mrs. Clinton or anyone. He really doesn't like to work with people who act like dramatic"roosters"

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:07 PM

28. Obama made Hillary promise 'no advice from Sid' for MY administration.

 

He said I know he has advised you and Bill for a long time, but I am not hiring him. I am not giving him a job at State at all, so there is no reason to confer with him. She promised. She lied. She betrayed the president and the people, and did not keep our secrets safe.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:28 AM

17. Bookmarking for potential Hillary crimes. n/t

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:34 AM

18. plus, she was caught on record blatantly lying about her correspondance w/ Blumenthal:

although the Obama White House believed Blumenthal had spread false rumors about Obama during the 2008 campaign, and although Obama had banned Blumenthal from any State Dept business, SOS Clinton kept up a steady and solicited correspondence with Blumenthal behind Obama's back:



And despite ample evidence on the public record for months that Clinton repeatedly asked Blumenthal to keep sending her updates on Libya and other matters, she repeated previous assertions that his advice was unsolicited.

"I did not ask him to send me the information that he sent me," Clinton said.


"You wrote to him, 'Another keeper, thanks' and 'Please keep them coming
....Greetings from Kabul and thanks for keeping this stuff coming,'" Gowdy shot back.

Clinton then shifted slightly, conceding that she urged Blumenthal to keep up the flow
. "They started out unsolicited and, as I said, some were of interest," she said.

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.....You said they were -- you said they were unsolicited," the chairman said.

While Clinton minimized the significance of what Blumenthal sent along, she did not dismiss it entirely, and she defended forwarding the information to aides who sometimes scrambled to respond to the unusual dispatches.

"Some of it I found interesting....

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....Allegations relating to Blumenthal's role in that campaign are what kept him from joining the State Department in 2009. Obama aides were convinced that Blumenthal spread false personal and policy rumors about Obama during the battle between Clinton and Obama for the Democratic nomination. While Clinton had more authority to name State Department personnel than any other Obama Cabinet member, Blumenthal was blacklisted--effectively banished by the White House.

When Gowdy asked about Blumenthal's rejection, Clinton didn't dispute it, but said she couldn't remember or didn't know who at the White House put the kibosh on her regular correspondent.


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Hillary was taking State Dept Advice from Blumenthal and others with Business interests in Libya:


Plus, all the while, Blumenthal was working for the Clinton Foundation:




International New York Times May 20, 2015 Wednesday

Clinton friend's memos on Libya draw scrutiny to politics and business

NICHOLAS CONFESSORE and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT
Clintons last occupied the White House, Sidney Blumenthal cast himself in varied roles:

speechwriter, in-house intellectual and press corps whisperer. …..Now, as Hillary Rodham Clinton embarks on her second presidential bid, Mr. Blumenthal's service to the Clintons is again under the spotlight. ……

….. a series of memos that Mr. Blumenthal - who was not an employee of the State Department - wrote to Mrs. Clinton about events unfolding in Libya before and after the death of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.

According to emails obtained by The New York Times, Mrs. Clinton, who was secretary of state at the time, took Mr. Blumenthal's advice seriously, forwarding his memos to senior diplomatic officials in Libya and Washington and at times asking them to respond. Mrs. Clinton continued to pass around his memos even after other senior diplomats concluded that Mr. Blumenthal's assessments were often unreliable.

But an examination by The Times suggests that Mr. Blumenthal's involvement was more wide-ranging and more complicated than previously known, embodying the blurry lines between business, politics and philanthropy that have enriched and vexed the Clintons.

While advising Mrs. Clinton on Libya, Mr. Blumenthal, who had been barred from a State Department job by aides to President Obama, was also employed by her family's philanthropy, the Clinton Foundation, to help with research, ''message guidance'' and the planning of commemorative events, according to foundation officials. During the same period, he also worked for organizations that helped lay the groundwork for Mrs. Clinton's 2016 campaign.

Much of the Libya intelligence that Mr. Blumenthal passed on to Mrs. Clinton appears to have come from a group of business associates he was advising as they sought to win contracts from the Libyan transitional government.

The venture, which was ultimately unsuccessful, involved other Clinton friends, a private military contractor and one former C.I.A. spy seeking to get in on the ground floor of the new Libyan economy.

The projects …..would have required State Department permits, but foundered before the business partners could seek official approval.


The Libya venture came together in 2011 when David L. Grange, a retired Army general, joined with a new New York firm, Constellations Group, to pursue business leads in Libya. Constellations Group, led by a professional fund-raiser and philanthropist named Bill White, was to provide the leads……

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Response to amborin (Reply #18)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:11 PM

30. Exactly, she lied about all of this. That's why this is put together with her public statements at

 

the end. All lies.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:14 PM

20. For all the crying over people dissing Obama, it sure is quite on this front.

What's up with that?

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:38 PM

22. I am glad to see some real information showing up.

 

There have been far too many uninformed opinions put down. And especially the Clinton people, and Hillary herself, outright dismissing it.

It is far too late for that. The more I hear about the details, the more troubling it is.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #22)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:48 PM

25. Yep. Early on I dismissed the email server issue as GOP hot air like Benghazi. But after reading

 

about the security issues, the handling of classified materials and access by third party IT companies,
the concerns by the server company of a cover up, the Clinton Foundation public corruption investigation by the FBi,
and the debacle surrounding Blumenthal it's hard to dismiss as just a GOP hot air.....

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:45 PM

24. Revealing kr

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:03 PM

26. Kick this post! This is exactly why Hillary cannot be the nominee.

 

Even if she is 'excused' or pardoned' or given a DOJ pass. The fact remains anyone else would not be allowed to hold public office.

Really, we can do better.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:07 PM

29. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, ViseGrip.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:19 PM

31. HRC lied to PO

K&R

I still can't understand why this election hasn't been delayed until the FBI publishes a report on this e-mail issue.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:46 PM

32. ^

 

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Response to Wilms (Reply #32)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:06 PM

33. Exactly, do you think if you were under investigation by the FBI you would be taken seriously as a

 

candidate? This is ridiculous.

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