2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary gave $17.6M to charity, 26 times what she made on all 3 Goldman Sachs speeches combined
Her fees were not the least bit unusual given her stature.
-Over 100 lesser known Americans are also in the $200,000+ category.
-The Goldman Sachs fees were below her average fee.
-She gave $17.6 million of her speaking fees to charity.
-Charging Goldman Sachs less would have just meant more profits for them and less for charity.
There is simply no evidence, or logic, supporting the idea that she would sell out her whole career and deceive her huge base of supporters with a fake proposal to rein in Wall Street (a proposal that Elizabeth Warren supports). That she would do all this in return for three below-average fees from Goldman Sachs is beyond absurd.
Many seem to think the highest possible legitimate speaking fee couldnt be over $10,000, and anything higher must be a bribe. But looking at the list below, its obvious no one is bribing Charlie Rose, Lady Gaga or Larry the Cable Guy, or any of the other 120 people who get paid $200,000 or more per speech.
More: http://zfacts.com/2016/02/clinton-speaking-fees/
Read the article to see what Hilary made from all of the speeches she made in 2014 and 2015. As many here love to point out: Hillary Clinton is rich! She has been a multimillionaire for quite some time, she doesn't have to work or give speeches. She does it because she enjoys it. It's not about the money for her.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It's building her slush fund tax free.
fried eggs
(910 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...while you all were busy becoming unhinged over a Vatican speech.
fried eggs
(910 posts)only Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has fully disclosed years worth of returns. Sanders has released an abbreviated version of his taxes for a single year. Trump hasnt released anything, while his Republican challengers, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Ohio Gov. John Kasich, have made only partial tax information public.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article72097232.html#storylink=cpy
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)fried eggs
(910 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)the updated memo includes:
Yes but he only paid 13.9%.
And other horseshit deflections.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Oh, and has he released his 2015 complete tax filing yet? He promised to do that last Monday.
Hillary Clinton has - from 2000 through 2014. And they're complete tax filings.
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns?OpenDocument
Bob41213
(491 posts)Like where all those Canadian donations come from?
Oh, let me save you the trouble of claiming privacy law prevents them from doing so.
https://www.priv.gc.ca/resource/fs-fi/02_05_d_19_e.asp
Most non-profits are not subject to the Act because they do not engage in commercial activities. This is typically the case with most charities, minor hockey associations, clubs, community groups and advocacy organizations. Collecting membership fees, organizing club activities, compiling a list of members' names and addresses, and mailing out newsletters are not considered commercial activities. Similarly, fundraising is not a commercial activity. However, some clubs, for example many golf clubs and athletic clubs, may be engaged in commercial activities which are subject to the Act.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Sanders is the LAST person to demand anything from any Clinton since he hasn't even kept his promise to release his 2015 complete tax filing (which was supposed to come out last Monday).
He's also not released more than ONE complete tax filing - 2014.
Hillary Clinton's released her complete tax filings from 2000 through 2014.
So before Sanders - or his supporters - believe they have a right to demand tax filings from anyone else while standing in a wafer-thin glass house, best to stop hurling stones until Sanders himself releases at least eight past tax filings, just as Senator Obama had when he was running, and Senator Clinton had when she ran in 2008.
Otherwise, it would make that demand hypocritical, wouldn't it?
NewImproved Deal
(534 posts)Channeling Clinton Machine loot into the Clinton "Foundation" is no more charitable than Mitt Romney tithing to the Mormon Church.
Hillary Clinton is America's Imelda Marcos.
think
(11,641 posts)that Blumenthal not be hired to the State Dept.
What kind of person does that?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)fried eggs
(910 posts)when discussing the Clintons. "Laundered?" Why do you feel the need to go there? The hatred spewed is on par with Rush Limbaugh.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It appears that the function of the Foundation isn't charity, but laundering a political slush fund.
What charitable function did Blumenthall do while being paid $10,000/month?
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)as the old adage goes.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)This missed the point entirely. It's about access and influence and things like that, not how much of the money Hillary keeps.
As an aside, though, the Clinton Foundation qualifies as a charity and being a big donor to any charity has its perqs.
fried eggs
(910 posts)That's what you're arguing. Putting aside the fact that the payment was equivalent to pocket change, she was paid for a service provided. The article lists others who are paid the same and more for giving speeches, people who have absolutely nothing to do with politics. Like Lady Gaga. You're arguing that the relatively low fee Hillary was paid covered her speech and also gave them access and influence. You have no proof of this, and it doesn't pass the common sense test, but you hate Clinton so it must be true.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Foundation. And, as an adide, if you actually think paying $200K plus expenses for a politician to speak for a half hour is simply payment for a half hour speech, I want to do business with you.
Bottom line: her charitable contributions, which is what the OP focuses on--even the charitable contributions that are legit-- are totally beside the point. The point is not how much money she keeps out of the money that flows to her. The point is what does the money flow to her buy others, regardless of what she does with it. And not only the speech money, which is convenient to focus on, but a drop in the total bucket.
Big bucks buy, at the very minimum, access. Denying that is laughable. So is pretending it's only about speaking fees.
fried eggs
(910 posts)the money they received from speaking to GS? Or Deepak Chopra and Tom Brokaw? You tell me. Sanders has yet to come up with one example of Clinton giving Wall Street a pass.
Here's the boring truth:
Let's face it, your speculation is based on blind hatred. Not logic.
merrily
(45,251 posts)fried eggs
(910 posts)Desperate much?
Avalux
(35,015 posts)How generous of her, donating to her own money laundering operation! That article stinks to high heaven.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)fried eggs
(910 posts)your information?
Vinca
(50,236 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
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jmg257
(11,996 posts)Newest, see: Hillary Killed Detroit? Not! Bernies Just Very Confused
or: Millions for Sanders from Wall Street Super PACs,
or: MoveOns Soros ditches Sanders for Clinton
Or: Who is Bernie? Find out before its too late
Clintons Speaking Fees No Corruption; Quite Generous
If Sanders Is Consistent, He's Not a Democrat. That Spells Trouble
randome
(34,845 posts)Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina says that so little of the charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation actually go to charitable works a figure CARLY for America later put at about 6 percent of its annual revenues but Fiorina is simply wrong.
Fiorina and others are referring only to the amount donated by the Clinton Foundation to outside charities, ignoring the fact that most of the Clinton Foundations charitable work is performed in-house. One independent philanthropy watchdog did an analysis of Clinton Foundation funding and concluded that about 89 percent of its funding went to charity.
Simply put, despite its name, the Clinton Foundation is not a private foundation which typically acts as a pass-through for private donations to other charitable organizations. Rather, it is a public charity. It conducts most of its charitable activities directly.
Asked for some examples of the work it performs itself, the Clinton Foundation listed these:
Clinton Development Initiative staff in Africa train rural farmers and help them get access to seeds, equipment and markets for their crops.
Clinton Climate Initiative staff help governments in Africa and the Caribbean region with reforestation efforts, and in island nations to help develop renewable energy projects.
Staff at the Clinton Health Access Initiative, an independent, affiliated entity, work in dozens of nations to lower the cost of HIV/AIDS medicine, scale up pediatric AIDS treatment and promote treatment of diarrhea through life-saving Zinc/ORS treatment.
Clinton Health Matters staff work with local governments and businesses in the United States to develop wellness and physical activity plans.
It's not even a private organization!
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jmg257
(11,996 posts)And so many foreign govt's, investors, corporations and philanthropists are major donors!
vintx
(1,748 posts)all the many wonderful things the Clinton Foundation does with all that loot.
randome
(34,845 posts)Granted, it's not all that specific but if you're implying that money is being laundered or otherwise misspent, I would think it's on you to furnish evidence of that.
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