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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:25 AM Apr 2016

Hillary won Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and, oh yeah, every burrough in NYC

The pretty map showing Bernie winning the trees in my state is certainly cute. The problem is he lost where the vast majority of voters actually live.

I'm sure we'll see the same kind of pretty map when the majority of empty PA goes Bernie but Philly and Pittsburgh go heavily Clinton.

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Hillary won Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and, oh yeah, every burrough in NYC (Original Post) Godhumor Apr 2016 OP
Not the trees. Democrats who live in rural areas. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #1
And more land mass doesn't equal more votes Godhumor Apr 2016 #8
The excuses are getting more creative every day nt firebrand80 Apr 2016 #2
The mass of population in NYC area was an eye-opener for me. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #3
New York is both an urban and a rural state, MineralMan Apr 2016 #5
Be sure to check out the funny trees in November. peace13 Apr 2016 #4
November doesn't scare me in the slightest n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #6
The trees were disenfranchised. Their leaves aren't out yet. Those would be mroe votes! CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #7

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
3. The mass of population in NYC area was an eye-opener for me.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

The fact that that one enormous area with help from the the few other urban areas could carry the state was amazing to me. I did not know that about NY. I wonder if the rest of the state feels the tail is wagging the dog. There are people out there -- 40% of the voters!

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
5. New York is both an urban and a rural state,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016

much like many others in the US. Congressional districts are determined by population, with the idea being that each district contains approximately the same number of people.

In my own state of Minnesota, we're in much the same position as NY, but with lower overall numbers. Our population is densely situated in and around Minneapolis and St. Paul, including its many suburbs. The rest of the state, for the most part is rural and either agricultural or pretty empty of people. There are several of our 8 congressional districts in the densely populated areas. There are two or three that cover the rest of the state.

Population. One person; one vote. That's the intent. In practice it's actually pretty close, right down to the individual precinct level. Every 10 years, we have a census and then redraw the lines to preserve that population-per-district balance.

Really, almost every state of any large geographical size is similarly divided between urban and rural areas. It shouldn't be a surprise, really.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
4. Be sure to check out the funny trees in November.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016

They will be hysterical. Either way they won't be yours.

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