Hillary pulled in over 1 million votes in New York. Who needs large rallies when you've got voters?

[Cali_Democrat]

Bernie might have the large rallies and win all the online polls, but Hillary's got the voters.

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york

[Surya Gayatri]

1. "Hillary's got the voters". End of story.

[JimDandy]

2. Cali we all know it's because hundreds of thousands of voters

were not able to vote for Sanders. Voter suppression normally causes great angst among Democrats. 'Not if it helps Hillary' is the sentiment of her suporters all over DU these last couple days, though.

Bravo...

[ecstatic]

5. If true, that means Hillary was hurt far more than Bernie.

Unless you're suggesting a nefarious conspiracy in which only Bernie supporters were disenfranchised. The real numbers were probably Hillary 70/30. So we should definitely investigate.

[msongs]

9. actually we dont all know and you dont either. where is your verifiable evidence? nt

[brush]

11. Get real. Are you claiming Sanders voters were the only ones supressed?

What, where the Sanders supporters' names flashing red on and off like animated gifs on the computer screens of the alleged vote suppressors and the Clinton voters names were not?

Come on, any suppressed votes would include Clinton voters too so your contention does not hold up.

[JimDandy]

18. Get real. Sanders gets a huge percent of the Independents' votes.

Their votes were the majority of those that were suppressed.

As for the those Dems whose registrations were changed to other parties or were inactivated, well, not a peep came from the Clinton campaign about their plight. And certainly not a care from her or her supporters went to the 200 voters who filed suit to vote in this election. And definitely not a single law suit was filed by her camp to address the suppression.

Clinton is an attorney. Her camp knew that any effort by them to help disenfranchised voters who would vote for her would also help all disenfranchised voter. There was no way they would do that, as the benefit of doing so would largely accrue to Sanders.

And, please, show me a link to all your compassionate posts about the plight of all those voters who wouldn't get to vote for your candidate.

[brush]

40. You guys were making the same noise about the Arizona vote

Give it up, if votes were suppressed, Clinton voters were included.

And independents voters can't vote in the Dem primary in NY, it's a Dem primary, not an independent primary.

[NanceGreggs]

12. It's not voter surpression ...

... to say that a non-Democrat cannot vote in a Democratic primary.

Them's the rules. If your candidate can't win by those rules, them's the breaks.

No one on this site had ever brought up the "unfairness" of closed primaries until a few months ago. No one thought that closed primary rules were "un-democratic" until they realized that Bernie needed independents to even have a shot at the nomination.

My prediction: Once BS is out of the race (which he has been for a while, but refuses to acknowledge), any and all calls to change primary rules will be completely forgotten.

It's never been about unfairness or being un-democratic - it's only been about Bernie. BS supporters never cared about primary rules before - and they'll go back to not caring the minute Bernie is gone.

[JimDandy]

15. I can see why you're a Hillary supporter..

It's not a pretty or smart look on you, or any of a number of things I value in a Democrat, let alone a human.

From a long time Election Protection advocate who knows a thing or two...

Ugh, 2 minutes replying to a post full of undemocratic and unDemocratic slime that I'll never get back.

[NanceGreggs]

16. I'm crushed. n/t

[JimDandy]

19. I believe you. n/t

[uponit7771]

29. Ad homs are an indicator of a weak position

[Cha]

21. That's right. Dems only in the Dem primary today.. and Dems turned out for Hillary!

Putain Démocratique ??@goddamnedfrank
If you can’t even research your State’s primary rules and register on time maybe you shouldn’t call other people “low information voters.”
6:58 PM - 18 Apr 2016
20 20 Retweets 15 15 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/04/19/early-bird-chat-723/#comments

[nolawarlock]

23. Boom!

Especially the low information voter comment. I mean come on. Why was nobody complaining about this in October when folks could actually switch parties?

[Cha]

25. I know.. they're just outing themselves as not doing their homework by whining about this.

[nolawarlock]

26. Damn you're on a roll tonight!

You had me rolling with cowboy hat Statue of Liberty. Lol

[Cha]

28. So are you!

[nolawarlock]

31. That's what happens when you're alert stalked!

I had all of it saved up during my weekend in Siberia!

[Cha]

32. I bet.. that was terrible. I can't wait for that BS bullshit to be over.. and it better be.

[NanceGreggs]

3. I just don't understand how she's winning.

She loses all the on-line polls, her campaign has been collapsing for at least a year now, nobody likes her, nobody trusts her, and she doesn't inspire any enthusiasm whatsoever.

Oh - and I never see any HRC bumper-stickers or yard signs, she doesn't have big rallies, and every single person I know in the entire world is for Bernie.

[workinclasszero]

8. Its...magic!!!

[floppyboo]

14. she wins delegates in districts bought off early, and then they don't show up

for regions so hold your horses. Sanders went from 210 behind on Friday to 185 behind earlier today. The more you know, the more you think - or something like that.

[Cha]

27. We're the silent majority until we get to the polls.. like in New York today..

"In a speech to supporters, in which she declared that "victory is in sight" in the race for the nomination, Clinton reached out to those who had backed Sanders, saying, "I believe there is much more that unites us than divides us."


Hillary Clinton celebrates with her husband after winning the New York primary.
(Spencer Platt / Getty Images)

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-new-york-democratic-primary-20160419-story.html

Iaaahttp://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=108832

Hillary

[uponit7771]

30. +1

[Rex]

4. Man those voters are like a total drag man!

Voters gonna vote...whatchagonna do aboutit?

[nolawarlock]

6. I wish someone would explain this to me...

Since it's clear that people really are turning out for Hillary in droves at the voting booth, why are all these people at the Bernie rallies not actually voting? Are they serving free food or something at these rallies? I'm just confused.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

22. They are. Rallies and elections are just on different scales.

All the people at all Sanders' rallies are just a flash in the pan on an electoral scale.

[nolawarlock]

24. Thank you

I was being sarcastic before but I get what you mean. Rallies don't always translate to votes, especially when a candidate has so many independent voters and there are so many closed primaries.

[workinclasszero]

7. But..but..the YUUUUUGE rallies!!11111!!!!!

[Turn CO Blue]

10. Off topic but 20 million people live in New York state. That low of a turnout is just shocking.

Colorado will have over 2 million voters in the general election come November, and we only have a population of 5.4 million (with about 3 million eligible, active voters)

New York will have about 3.9 million turnout to vote in the general election -- against Colorado's 2.2 million voter turnout.

[angrychair]

13. You miss the big picture

A million sounds like a lot, right?
Perspective is critical. There are over 5.7 million Democratic voters in NY. Her and Sanders, together, only netted ~29% of Democratic voters.
By herself, in a deep blue state, in a contested primary, she only got ~18% of all Democratic voters in NY. That means that 4 out of 5 Democrats didn't vote for her. For someone that has the election in the bag, that is not good.

[SidDithers]

39. In Colorado, 11 out of 12 Democrats didn't vote for Bernie...nt

Sid

[pressbox69]

17. If you can make it there

You'll make it anywhere.

[Cha]

20. A 1,000,000,000 Rally in New York for Hillary today, Cali!

"In a speech to supporters, in which she declared that "victory is in sight" in the race for the nomination, Clinton reached out to those who had backed Sanders, saying, "I believe there is much more that unites us than divides us."


Hillary Clinton celebrates with her husband after winning the New York primary.
(Spencer Platt / Getty Images)

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-new-york-democratic-primary-20160419-story.html

Iaaahttp://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=108832

Hillary

[Human101948]

33. One billion?

That's amazing.

[Cha]

34. KICK

[azurnoir]

35. who needs rally's when you have what amounts to voter suppression

but here's the rub folks what this means is that Hillary's win in NY has may give her the nomination but has about as much meaning when it comes to the GE as catching a 'lunker' at a trout farmer in both cases there is a pre planned outcome

[laserhaas]

36. You mean "when you have counters"

Walking dead voting for right to be so

[Eric J in MN]

37. Who needs fair elections, when you can exclude anyone who wasn't a Reg Democrat six months ago? NT

NT

[Starry Messenger]

38. You know those pledge forms at HRC events that

Bernie DUers thought were fascist mind control? They are contact forms. You go through them after and call every single person on there and tell them to remember to vote.

That's how you win elections.

[NurseJackie]

41. Bernie has rally-goers ... Hillary has ELIGIBLE voters.

Big difference!