Do you think New York is intentionally changing the voter registration info of Bernie supporters?

[Cali_Democrat]

So they can't vote for Bernie in the primary?

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	Yes
	15 (47%)
	No
	17 (53%)
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[bkkyosemite]

1. It's larger than just NY...it's CA, AZ, PA, etc.

[ScreamingMeemie]

26. FL

[brooklynite]

47. Point us to the challenge Bernie Sanders has filed...

[dchill]

2. Do I think the entire state of NY is doing it?

No...

[bettyellen]

10. LOL, Hillary is taking the Bronx, Queens and probably Brooklyn. Manhattan is SBS's best shot in NYC

You really have no idea, do you?

[JonLeibowitz]

17. Care to back up your assertion about Manhattan?

That is where she has fundraised the best (she represents the 1%, after all). Maybe you can point out the Manhattan zip code where he has outpaced her in donations?

Here's a link, happy hunting: https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20160308/great-kills/map-see-which-presidential-candidate-your-neighborhood-supports

[bettyellen]

18. Manhattan and then Brooklyn are the closest to Benrie's demographics. The Bronx and Queens are

more traditionally strong Dems, less Indy voters and upper middle class. Staten Island is so friggen republican it doesn't matter. I am not saying Manhattan is definitely for Bernie, I am just saying it is the best shot he has in NYC.

[Cheese Sandwich]

4. I don't know. But it does need to be investigated. Something is happening.

There are a lot of documented cases.

[Bonobo]

5. It doesn't matter if it is intentional or not. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

6. How would an unintentional change occur?

Assuming the voter is registered Dem.

[Bonobo]

8. I don't know. It doesn't matter. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

9. OK. nt

[bettyellen]

19. some people got sort of provisional ballots to vote elsewhere after Sandy..... and that might have

screwed up their registrations. I saw 30K voters off the rolls- now people are saying 300K- which I think is bullshit.

[democrattotheend]

7. I'm a Bernie supporter and I don't think so

I don't see how they would know who supports who on a widescale basis. I think Hurricane Sandy is responsible for a lot of it. Do we know if anyone upstate has complained of vote switching?

[bettyellen]

11. Sandy and also people not voting for a few years.....

[unc70]

23. Knowing who is likely voting for Bernie is easy

Between polling of all sorts, campaign contributions and participation, past election data, and online tracking systems, campaigns have a really good idea how various voters are likely to vote.

The commercially available data profile of each of us is enormous.

Whether someone used some of that data for mischief is a bigger question.

[Time for change]

25. An investigation of similar purging in AZ identified

113 voters who intended to vote for Bernie who had been purged, and only 2 who intended to vote for Hillary. It's difficult for me to fathom such results without thinking that his database of supporters was cracked and tartgeted for purging. I believe that the same thing would be found by a similar investigation in NY.

https://anonymousinvestigationsblog.wordpress.com/2016/03/26/anonymous-report-was-arizonas-voter-registration-database-hacked/

[think]

12. Over 60,000 Democrats; 7% of the Brooklyn total number of Democrats have been wiped

from the roles since November.

You think this is normal?

[CorporatistNation]

14. Statistically IMPROBABLE To Say The Least! Sounds Like A "Systemic" Attack To Disenfranchise!

See What This Judge Comes Up With Tomorrow... Anyone have history/background on the assigned Judge?

[spin]

13. Admittedly the Clinton Machine has a lot of miles on the odometer...

and at times it coughs and sputters but it still has the ability to roll over Bernie.

[Loudestlib]

15. I think polls like this are stupid.

[ecstatic]

20. I don't. Bernie supporters don't seem to think through their accusations. A poll like this

hopefully forces them to see how ridiculous some of their suspicions are. Or maybe not...

This poll is illuminating.

[Loudestlib]

21. .

A push poll is an interactive marketing technique, most commonly employed during political campaigning, in which an individual or organization attempts to influence or alter the view of voters under the guise of conducting a poll.

In a push poll, large numbers of voters are contacted briefly (often less than 60 seconds), and little or no effort is made to collect and analyze response data. Instead, the push poll is a form of telemarketing-based propaganda and rumor mongering, masquerading as a poll. Push polls may rely on innuendo or knowledge gleaned from opposition research on an opponent.

Push polls are generally viewed as a form of negative campaigning.[1] Indeed, the term is commonly (and confusingly) used in a broader sense to refer to legitimate polls that aim to test negative political messages.[2] Future usage of the term will determine whether the strict or broad definition becomes the most favored definition. However, in all such polls, the pollster asks leading questions or suggestive questions that "push" the interviewee towards adopting an unfavourable response towards the political candidate.

[tokenlib]

16. Elections officials and other government officials friendly to Hillary..

..are doing everything they can to create an environment favorable for a Hillary win. I don't put anything past these people.

[msongs]

22. hillary has personally examined every dem registration in NY and nixed any who are bernie voters....

oh wait there is no way for her to know who is and is not bernie voters. oops, the cult's conspiracy goes up in smoke

[unc70]

24. There are many ways to know with high probability

While that does not mean that this information was used to do a selective voter update / purge, it is technically quite straightforward.

[RandySF]

27. How would the election office know how people are voting?

[NWCorona]

30. The shared DNC voter list stored on the same database

[RandySF]

31. Nope

Parties buy those lists from election offices. They don't tap into official voter roles.

[NWCorona]

37. There's a court case in federal court that says otherwise

I'm not saying that this is what happened in NY but my point is valid.

The firewall between both candidates systems has gone down multiple times.

[RandySF]

38. I'm not talking about between candidates

The DNC does not interface with election offices. They but the information and develop their own databases.

[NWCorona]

39. I understand that but it's the only way Bernie supporters could be targeted

If that list was given to someone who had access.

It's highly unlikely but not impossible.

[ScreamingMeemie]

28. I think a good many of us don't care who the registered voters who had their info changed

were going to vote for and are all for getting to the bottom of what the hell is going on. I hope that answers your question. EVERY Democrat should be upset about this as it's not a political football. Thank you.

[bobbobbins01]

29. I hit pass because I don't know.

But I believe it should be investigated. Whether intentional or not, it shouldn't be occurring.

[w4rma]

36. Yup. It's absolutely impossible to logically say "No.", at this point in the investigation. (nt)

[reddread]

32. happens all the time

must be normal.

[w4rma]

33. More than 60,000 people were dropped from the list of active registered Democrats in Brooklyn

A voter who is listed as active appears in the poll site books when he or she shows up to vote in an election. A voter is moved to inactive status for several reasons, including not voting in two federal elections (i.e. in the last four years), and if a reminder notice mailed by the Board is returned to the borough office as an undeliverable address.

But even though more than 60,000 people were dropped from the list of active registered Democrats in Brooklyn, there was only an increase of roughly 10,000 inactive voters in the county. That means some 50,000 voters are unaccounted for entirely.

http://www.wnyc.org/story/democratic-voter-rolls-drop-more-60000-brooklyn-presidential-primary/

[AgerolanAmerican]

34. needs more options

leans yes/leans no

I'm leaning yes but I don't have enough information to be confident enough for a full yes.

[Smarmie Doofus]

35. Not enough info yet but it is ludicrous to believe that the machine here...

... would *refrain* from election fraud if it thinks it can get away with it.

[PATRICK]

40. It might be ludicrous though

to assume they are any good at it or as wizardly organized as people fret about. This is a lazy machine assuming bi-partisan gridlock makes the grease that turns the wheels is better than dominating the state, that the majority Dem population makes a cozy dependable predictable bunch- so much so that often they let the GOP win a lot. Not quite the imposing apparatus of NYC Tammany Hall of old.

I would be intensely interested in this as a matter of testing the party in a state government that has been considered extremely dysfunctional, pay to play, and always part controlled by the idiotic GOP. Except that there is so much at stake for more than the vast majority of voters would even allow themselves to imagine it will be more a judgment on behalf of the entire human race.

[NurseJackie]

41. Hillary beams out MIND CONTROL signals ...

... so that county election clerks flip registrations. And it's fine tuned and targeted so that the clerks are able to divine which registered Dems are Bernie supporters and ONLY flip those.

It's amazing! Hillary can do ANYTHING!

[oberliner]

42. People are seriously paranoid

Results of this poll are crazy.

[NurseJackie]

45. I think they're joking. Not to be taken seriously. They've clicked "yes" to get a reaction.

And even if they aren't joking... even if they're genuinely sincere ... they're STILL not to be taken seriously for obvious reasons.

[betsuni]

43. THE POWER OF HOT SAUCE.

[baldguy]

44. More likely these individuals weren't paying attention until literally the day before the primary.

[brooklynite]

46. Wait! How do we know New York isn't changing these poll results?