An Odd Cloud Rolls Toward Hillary Clinton’s Campaign

[Bob41213]

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/an_odd_cloud_rolls_toward_hillary_clintons_campaign_20160417

Although the subject of Hillary Clinton’s emails did not come up during Thursday’s presidential debate, the heated controversy over the Democratic front-runner’s use of a private Internet server during her four-year stint as secretary of state is far from over.

Indeed, if recent reports published largely (though not exclusively) by right-wing news media have any credibility, the controversy is about to re-erupt with redoubled fury. Some on the right are even predicting that Clinton will soon be indicted.

The reason for the right’s breathless anticipation of Clinton’s demise is that the mysterious, eccentric and paranoid Romanian computer hacker who broke the email story back in 2013 was extradited to the United States last month pursuant to federal felony charges filed against him in 2014. The theory is that prosecutors will squeeze the hacker for incriminating evidence against Clinton. A trial date in the hacker’s case has been set for September, smack dab in the middle of the general election campaign, in federal district court in Alexandria, Va.

[Punkingal]

1. This is a nightmare waiting to happen.

[factfinder_77]

2. republican smear tactics

There is no evidence to support the theory....

[berniepdx420]

4. your allegiance blinds you

[Bob41213]

6. This is the progressive point of view...

From Wikipedia: Truthdig is a news website that provides a mix of long-form articles, interviews, and blog-like commentary on current events, delivered from a "progressive" point ...

There is apparently evidence that Guccifer hacked Blumentha's email. There is evidence he read emails to HRC. There is evidence that he has been extradited to the US. There is evidence he has a trial in September. What lack of evidence were you referring to?

[Paper Roses]

3. WE the people need to know if there is something there.

If not, let this whole thing be gone. If so, it is our right to have the information available to us.
No more stall, no more obfuscation, no more baloney. Get it done and put this to rest.
All of us want to be informed, one way or the other.

[CentralCoaster]

7. Yes, we do, as a matter of national security at the very least.

How insecure was her server?
What information was accessed?
What lives and programs were placed at risk?

And, even today, what are the measures we need to take to undo the harm all this has done?

[HereSince1628]

15. She tells us often that in their search they're going to find there is no there there.

Aren't those theres there enough to satisfy you?

Personally I don't care about no finding theres there. As a voter I'm concerned about being given as the only option a person who has terrible judgement based on self-privileging.

[Buzz Clik]

5. ANY DAY NOW!!!!!11

[Dragonfli]

8. I see this investigation run by the FBI (known for integrity) and Hillary's hiring a criminal

deference lawyer, as a "Sword of Damocles" hanging over the head of our party and it's chances of victory across the entire ballot of races (if she were to gain the nomination).

I have only the hope that when the sword falls, it will be on her head alone, before our nomination process is over thus neutralizing it before it cost's us the Presidency, and more seats in the Senate and the House, I should not, nor should anybody be forced to be harmed so greatly by such an unforced error on her part.

Let us hope for a clear resolution and an early end of this process, clear enough if she is found innocent that it can not be used against the party, and early enough that if we are lucky an untainted nominee will represent us in the General Election so as to remove this potential atomic size bomb from the arsenal of the the inevitable right wing machine attacks.

They will attack and fight dirty as they have for many decades, I'd rather they had little more than pure BS and propaganda to use against us, they already have a fully stocked and overflowing arsenal to use against Clinton, but this WMD added to it along with the lack of enthusiasm for her seen in our own party among the youth and the remaining liberals within the party, added with the actual and quantified dislike and distrust among the largest block of voters (I) has me quite worried from a purely tactical viewpoint should she be the candidate.

This entire debacle of a scandal ridden candidate, combined with the ever increasing Fascistic tendencies of the Republicans, actually have me concerned now about living in a Dystopian Fascistic unUnited States of America, where my democracy once thrived.

[GreatGazoo]

9. If only there was a candidate with no cloud over him or her...

and who polled better against Trump and Cruz and wasn't connected to Goldman Sachs.

I know...dream on.

[NorthCarolina]

17. +1

[4139]

10. Could he have hacked both Hillary's and Chelsea's emails?

According to the indictment, Lehel "hacked into the email and social media accounts of high-profile victims, including a family member of two former U.S. presidents, a former U.S. Cabinet member, a former member of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff and a former presidential advisor," the statement said.

[Qutzupalotl]

11. This part sounds like a Bush:

"a family member of two former U.S. presidents"

Perhaps Neil Bush?

[4139]

13. Oops, I misread it as two family members of ex presidents

[WhiteTara]

12. After that breathless headline

most of the links were FOX and NEWSMAX and at the end of the article is this
Past cases suggest Hillary won’t be indicted
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/hillary-clinton-prosecution-past-cases-221744

In a detailed analysis published last week by Politico, White House correspondent Josh Gerstein staked out something of a middle ground in the roiling debate. After reviewing dozens of recent federal investigations involving alleged mishandling of classified records—including the 2015 prosecution of Gen. David Petraeus for providing top-secret material to a woman who was his biographer and mistress—Gerstein concluded there will be no indictment against Clinton unless prosecutors are convinced she acted with the intent to violate classification rules. In addition, Gerstein wrote, prosecutors will consider whether Clinton committed other aggravating acts beyond rule infractions, such as lying under oath or endangering national security.

but do carry on

[ridgenvalley]

14. What do HRC enthusiasts expect?

It will all go away? Magically disappear? The Repuke controlled House & Senate will be calling in every IOU they've got to get her indicted. They just want to wait til she's nominated, so it's too late for Dems to do anything about it.

[global1]

18. To Make This Go Away Or At Least Lessen The Blow.....

I think that Hillary needs to step down from the nominating process for the sake of the Party. If she doesn't the Repugs are going to unleash the biggest smear campaign they ever did against her. Just the fact that a presidential candidate is under FBI investigation is enough to cause her and the Dems to lose in November - so just think of the daily spillage of facts, lies, misinterpretations, that the Repugs and the MSM (because they love this type of stuff and are vultures) will unleash if an indictment comes or even as depositions are taken of her people. They'll make hay out of the guy that was given immunity. It will be merciless and continuous.

And all this will be timed (choreographed) after the nominating convention and the General Election - during the campaigning for the presidency. Think about what the Trump's or Cruz's of the world will say. Look at how the Repugs tore each other apart during their debates. Don't you think their attacks on Hillary will even be more brutal? Then think about how flustered Hillary gets during debates. We'll be hearing a lot of nervous laughter from her. And watch the MSM make hay out of that now that she's beyond the primaries and they don't have to ignore those things anymore.

All that would be avoided if she stepped down and let Bernie carry the Dem banner. I know that they'll be those that say - the Repugs will unleash the Red Menace against Bernie - but Bernie will not cower to their attacks and he won't have to be so nice to them like he's been to Hillary during this primary season. Remember what he said about those 'damned e-mails'. He let her off the hook. Also, he's never even brought up the fact that she's subject to an FBI investigation. He's only challenged her on the issues and the facts. Yeah - her Iraq war vote. Yeah - her speeches to the Wall St bunch. But those are fair game as they relate to the issues at hand.

Hillary stepping down would take a lot of wind out of the sails of the Repugs as they been running their race against Hillary from the start. They'll have to really alter their attack strategy and it's kind of hard to attack Bernie on his stances because they make good sense.

Hillary needs to stop thinking about herself and she needs to think about the Party. We're in for some rough roads if or when Hillary wins the nomination. I'm just hoping the PTB in the Dem Party sit down and take a long hard look and review the type of damage that can be done. If not - Hillary won't be the only one to shoulder the blame of a loss. The whole of the Dem Party - all those Representatives, Senators, Governors, Mayors, etc will have to also shoulder the blame.

The meme over the last day or two here on DU was that if Hillary loses - it will be Bernie's fault. I think not.

Bernie didn't create the situation that Hillary has gotten herself into - her ego and her desire to be the first woman president at all costs - will be the blame.

[ridgenvalley]

19. You're preaching to the choir, global1.

i hear ya, and agree.

[global1]

20. I Put This Out Here On DU Because I've Noticed In The Last 48 Hrs Or So.....

the Hillarians are out in force knocking down anything remotely and positively connected with Bernie. My sense is that Hillary's internals in NY are a lot closer than they thought and they are throwing anything out there to try and dissuade people from voting for Bernie. I put up a couple of posts today and was inundated with nasty and arrogant comments from Hillary people.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

16. This is one reason to hope Trump wins on the R side.

I'd hate to see Cruz or Ryan win the White House, if our nominee is indicted.

[JSup]

21. Here...

Hale Predicts Hillary Indictment - WSJ
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB845865398491640000

Oops. That's from 1996.

Same old, same old.

http://www.salon.com/2000/03/06/hillary_clinton_6/