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Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:01 PM

Did anyone see this essay from a guy who knew Rmoney in Massachusetts totally devastating

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This New England Blog
Thomas J. Curry: Romney as governor: a very practiced liar

snip: I am an independent with no party affiliation but from an ideological viewpoint, I am well to the right of center. Still, I cannot support Mitt Romney for president. While Barack Obama has not performed to expectations for a variety of reasons (some of which are his own failings), the dilemma in this election is that the alternative to Obama is Romney.
Having worked directly with Romney during his term as Massachusetts governor, I can tell you that there is nothing authentic or genuine about him. He'll tell you what he thinks that you want to hear and pretend to be what he thinks you want him to be.

He's an ideological chameleon who will say anything to get your support and then do whatever he wants to favor the rich and privileged; he's a caricature of the stereotyped Republican Party.

He lies frequently and convincingly, and has elastic principles, if any at all. He's fundamentally dishonest, while presenting an image of goodness and light.

He didn't run for a second term as governor because he knew that he would have been soundly defeated by the voters who experienced what he was really like. He'll be lucky if he gets within 20 percentage points of Obama in Massachusetts in this election.
Romney doesn't say much about his governorship, and those things that he does say are either lies or extreme distortions.

read the rest at this link
http://blogs.providencejournal.com/ri-talks/this-new-england/2012/10/thomas-j-curry-romney-as-governor-liar-and-a-phony.html

After reading this I am more scared if rmoney wins and sells out America

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kimbutgar Oct 2012 OP
Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #1
Nancy Waterman Oct 2012 #2
Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #10
bjobotts Oct 2012 #26
juajen Oct 2012 #32
gateley Oct 2012 #33
SamKnause Oct 2012 #3
Cracklin Charlie Oct 2012 #4
xxqqqzme Oct 2012 #6
Cha Oct 2012 #19
ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #15
bjobotts Oct 2012 #27
BlueState Oct 2012 #5
SCVDem Oct 2012 #7
beac Oct 2012 #8
JiminyJominy Oct 2012 #9
Cha Oct 2012 #20
JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #11
kimbutgar Oct 2012 #12
JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #21
ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #16
defacto7 Oct 2012 #13
Sunlei Oct 2012 #14
DiverDave Oct 2012 #17
Cha Oct 2012 #18
courseofhistory Oct 2012 #22
begin_within Oct 2012 #23
Hestia Oct 2012 #34
hfojvt Oct 2012 #24
Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #25
Nay Oct 2012 #30
begin_within Oct 2012 #36
Nay Oct 2012 #39
geckosfeet Oct 2012 #28
jimlup Oct 2012 #29
N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2012 #31
kimbutgar Oct 2012 #37
WillyT Oct 2012 #35
Robb Oct 2012 #38

Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:20 PM

1. Many of those things are already known.

He should come out with all the things he knows ..............

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:28 PM

2. This article needs to get around

It is one more on the character issue which I think is what really is sinking Romney.

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Response to Nancy Waterman (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:54 PM

10. and on his tricks as governor, the financial tricks he used

 

such that general cost of living went way up for everyone
though he never raised taxes per se.. just fees on everything,
like being blind, stuff like that. what a guy. I wish there
had been much more exposé on his time as gov.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:01 AM

26. Excellent link.

 

But reading some of the comments at that site shows just how uninformed the anti-Obama crowd really is...as if Obama or any president has anything to do with gas prices..."$1.80/gal when Obama took office and now look..." but they forgot or never knew it was $4.00/ gal shortly before that under Bush...or "Obama has raised our debt to nearly double, etc..." except Bush and the republicans created the debt in the first place and already Obama has lowered it by $300 billion...more than 1/4th...more than any president in modern history except for Clinton.

They hear a talking point from the right and never check but bark it out with so much confidence completely unaware of just how lame it makes them look. Poor things...so mislead but choose to just accept what they are told without question...geez. If you hear these arguments above please set the record straight for them.

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Response to bjobotts (Reply #26)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:17 PM

32. I would love to; however it doesn't do any good.

They just get mad and feed crap back that they get from listening to Fox. There surely is a fox in the hen house, and it's eating up all of the chickens. Problem is that when they totally destroy the hen house, there will be no more eggs for anybody. A raped country that was once great, and the people that stole the money are all living in the Bahamas or Dubai.

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Response to juajen (Reply #32)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:33 PM

33. Agree. They don't care about any of this -- he's not The Black Guy, and that's what's important.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:43 PM

3. Essay

Devastatingly brutal !

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:55 PM

4. My husband, recovering Republican

My dear husband is a good man, a job creating small businessman, who has been coming around to a thinking person's way of dealing with politics for several years now. He voted for the President in 2008, and is going to vote for his re-election. But it's still kind of tough for him sometimes, to understand why Republican candidates are so dangerous to our democracy.

I just showed him the article posted here, and he was visibly affected by what Mr. Curry has written. He is starting to understand the danger presented by chameleons like Mitt Romney. First person perspective by someone who knows the subject well, can be very convincing.


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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:16 PM

6. 'Starting to understand'

That hits home. We had a man come to our local campaign office shortly after the 47% tape was leaked. He needed to talk. In what I can only described as a confessional epiphany, he began to describe his journey from Rmoney to Obama. He has a son serving in Afghanistan and I think a great part of his change were his conversations w/ his son (who is supporting Obama).

He is trying to wean his wife away from f** after realizing what a propaganda machine for the far right it is. He was so humble, so sincere and genuinely relieved we were non-judgmental. We gave him the yard signs and bumper stickers he wanted (he had thrown out the Rmoney signs he had in his yard after listening to the 47% rant). There were 2 of us in the office and it just made our day and our hours volunteering so worthwhile.

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Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:07 PM

19. Great story, xxqqqzme..thanks! nm

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:32 PM

15. +1

Great to know there is still hope in the word. People can be educated. Thank you for sharing that

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:08 AM

27. Sorry, not "job creator" but job profiteer

 

Unless your husband is doling out charity he profits from any one who works for him or he would have no need to hire them. Jobs are only "created" by demand for goods or services almost always provided to make profits (except for charity). I have no doubt your husband is a good man etc but please...don't get caught up in right wing Luntz labeling of economic terms. The man who goes out and spends $10 bucks buying your products or services is the real "job creator"...those that provide the jobs are "job profiteers".

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:12 PM

5. This guy nails it!

I haven't read a better description of this man's character.

I agree with others this needs to get around. I have been avoiding politics on Facebook but I just liked this
article so others will see it.

Blistering and every word the truth!

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:20 PM

7. No shit!

 

This is nothing new!

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:26 PM

8. "a very practiced liar"

says it all. Romney will say ANYTHING to get what he wants and has no scruples whatsoever.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:30 PM

9. How UnBiased..

Is this New England publication??

I need articles like this to email to some undecideds I know. But I don't want any of them coming back to me with "thats a liberal paper".

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Response to JiminyJominy (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:09 PM

20. It's from a republicon... f*** 'em if they can't handle

the facts.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:57 PM

11. "When you get to know Mitt Romney, you won't like Mitt Romney"...

That's a quote I recall from when the primaries were still going on from someone who knew him well. As far as I can see it was very prophetic indeed.

The more America becomes acquainted with Romney, the less popular he becomes. He says things that abrade people on a weekly basis, and opens our eye to a world of the stuffy idle rich. Even his wife seems socially dysfunctional and snooty to the average American.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:02 PM

12. Is that Anntoniette's personal slave?

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:40 PM

21. As if she has one...

I'm sure it's more of a staff.

Don't sell her sense of self worth short.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:33 PM

16. Great graphic. nt

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:17 PM

13. K&R

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:18 PM

14. Tricky Mitt, Tricky Mitt!! another Tricky Dick

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:02 PM

17. Check out a commenters advice to read

a piece in Boston Magazine.

Snip-
So please, America, pay attention. There’s been too little talk about Romney’s time as governor of Massachusetts, and now that you’re deciding whether to make him our next president, it’s worth understanding just how and why he alienated the voters who know him best. Because the big problems that have been plaguing Romney on the campaign trail—that he’s personally inaccessible, that he’s had trouble unifying his party, that he’s become known as a flip-flopper—all have their roots in Massachusetts.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/articles/2012/09/mass-revolt-mitt-romney-campaign-in-massachusetts/

Another, longer description of his lies.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:03 PM

18. I didn't need to read this to know how scary freaking romney would

be for America. Worse than Mass.

It does need to get around so others who don't have a clue about mitt can maybe learn something.

THanks, kimbutgar

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:49 PM

22. This has been VERY obvious throughout this campaign! n/t

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:59 PM

23. Describes a classic sociopath

 

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Response to begin_within (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:05 PM

34. I couldn't decide if it described socioapathy or psychopathy

I know one reflects back to the person what s/he thinks they want to hear; the other doesn't know how to manage in society at all. Both describe RMoney, but can one be both? Or is it another disorder altogether?

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:37 PM

24. I am having a hard time trusting this author

First, he says "I am well to the right of center"

then he complains that Romney will "do whatever he wants to favor the rich and privileged"


The odd part for me is that usually people who are "well to the right of center" will applaud policies that "favor the rich and privileged".

So I kinda scratch my head when a guy who claims to be well to the right of center is complaining about things that are usually supported by people who are well to the right of center.

Although I guess that some people will support ideas like the UnFair Tax, or the Flat Tax, without ever admitting, to themselves, or anybody else, that it is a policy which "favors the rich and privileged".

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:02 PM

25. Strange, everyone calls him 'Governor'

Yet I've seen NO mention of his record, leadership or history as a Governor in election news.

Does anyone else find this strange?

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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #25)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:30 AM

30. It's customary to call him by his last title, whatever it was, rather than "Mr." But it is a lack of

willingness to investigate or explain anything to the public that marks our 'free press' as pretty much worthless. I have assumed that they are worthless because they are owned by rich conglomerates that restrict their media's ability to investigate such things -- they make it clear to their reporters that they won't have a job if they do any real investigation. As a 61-year-old, I can personally vouch for the fact that it was never this way when I was 20 and protesting against the Vietnam War. The papers and TV were on the front lines, making sure that everyone was informed about everything. They didn't necessarily take sides, except in their editorial comments, but they made sure the public knew the costs of that war. Does the public even see a casket coming home from the Middle East any more?

I personally get more info about the race, or anything else, from the UK and Canadian papers, and from DU. It's appalling.

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Response to Nay (Reply #30)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:19 PM

36. So should it be "Failed nominee Romney, do you..." or "Losing Candidate Romney, do you...?"

 

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Response to begin_within (Reply #36)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:44 PM

39. Heh, heh, heh! That would be awesome! But unfortunately, not correct protocol....

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:45 AM

28. Yes, well the truth is like that. The guy was/is a jackass.

He is a chameleon and will say anything to anyone to get elected. Once he is in he turns weird. A very scary disturbed weird.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:22 AM

29. I'm much more afraid of Romney and the Republican machine this presidential cycle

For two reasons...

1. I think McLame was basically an honest guy - neither Romney nor Ryan are.

2. I'm very alarmed at the big money interests which have aligned with Romney and I think they may invoke the very dark forces which appear to exist within the Republican party to steal this election. We see it already overtly in the voting rights struggle we are currently having. We may see the covert version in Ohio and Virginia and Wisconsin on election day/night. God I hope not!

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:17 AM

31. Awesome post

Thank you,
I went to an article posted in one of the comments.
The article was at Boston Magazine, the poster suggested to read the piece.
I did and cross posted it here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021637253

Sorry if it looks like I wanted to "hijack" the thread, but this is a great article.

Thank you again. This info will settle many discussions I'm currently having with some
of my RW friends about Mittens job as Governor.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:42 PM

37. No problem. I read the Boston article and it is just as devastating.

I fear for our country if this sociopath Willard wins. The rich monied interests only care about the money. They had 8 years of free reign under bush and they want it back on steroids.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:07 PM

35. HUGE K & R !!!

 


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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:43 PM

38. Delighted to be the 200th rec.

Late to the party, but delighted nonetheless.

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